The best thing I can say about this news, is that I suddenly appreciate Toney and Belotti as players a lot more than I did on Saturday.
Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out
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He isn't very good. I'd take Arnautovic before him. In the short term at least, which is stupid anyway.
I actually thought he was a right handful when we came up against him in the PL. He's a big, big lump and he wasn't slow back then. He'd wind you up and definitely had ability. He's not a natural goalscorer and I wonder how much he has lost having played in China and midtable Serie A clubs?
That seems to be the case for the national team, but I wouldn't necessarily say that at club level.
Like mentioned before I am against signing him because of sporting reasons and the lack of ambition it shows.
However, he surely is no racist. A bit simple minded and intellectually not the brightest, but e.g. Alaba is a good friend of his and I believe spoke out how ridiculous it is to call him a racist. Also he talked about being subject of racism himself.
However, he surely is no racist. A bit simple minded and intellectually not the brightest, but e.g. Alaba is a good friend of his and I believe spoke out how ridiculous it is to call him a racist. Also he talked about being subject of racism himself.
I'd really struggle to support this club going forward if we brought in this guy. He is a known racist ffs.
Smacks of but I have a black friend nonsense.
I agree but I don't see Kalajdzic making it at a top club and Arnautovic could at least have his moments here... I'd prefer a younger striker anyway but someone with the potential to make it here. I wonder why we aren't trying with Depay again.
I'm sorry, but this shit does my head in. He's made up a hypothetical scenario to get annoyed about.
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Why oh why only this guy?
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Why oh why only this guy?
If he scores a few goals, most fans will be fine.
Barca fans happily supported and cheered for Luis Suarez, didn't they?
Ten Hag is the kinda guy who buys his own hype in regards to philosophy. He clearly has an inclination to bring in players who he has worked with before. He knows Marko well I guess.
Barca fans happily supported and cheered for Luis Suarez, didn't they?
Ten Hag is the kinda guy who buys his own hype in regards to philosophy. He clearly has an inclination to bring in players who he has worked with before. He knows Marko well I guess.
Yeah - you're absolutely right.
But I suppose we just have to ignore it, write it off as "first window weirdness" - and then hope that the actual (new) direction of the club amounts to something else: namely that the manager no longer picks targets who are then pursued by the club, but rather that the manager is presented with targets who are in line with the club's overall transfer policy - and then either approves or vetoes them (to some degree - he should have a voice but definitely not the final word).
Can't remember the last time our fanbase was so united against signing someone. Even the likes of Ighalo had a mixed support if I remember correctly, nowhere near as negative as this one.
I dunno what degree of mickey there is in your post - but just in case: Luis Suarez was an undoubted world class player at the time.
Our target is a pretty mediocre player who also happens to have a bit of a problem with using "unfortunate" language in public.
Actually I'd say that due to his height alone Kalajdzic could be interesting for a lot of teams beyond his overall skill level, as sort of a plan b role player.
But that was Luis Suarez, this is Arnautovic, a player most United fans wouldn't have taken at his peak.
Well yeah but not for top clubs he lacks in so many other areas. Also: Arnautovic is a pretty big unit himself and can actually control a football unlike Kalajdzic. If I had to choose I'd take Arnautovic but both are depressing options. The Arnautovic of 10 years ago with a bit more brain would have been a good option but now... 33 year old, man that's so uninspiring.
Wasn't Arnautovic linked to United when Jose was manager? I might be wrong....
I understand that but the thing is that this seems like a very Ten Hag signing to me. So I guess even if it's a problematic person, the fans might have to tolerate that for a season or two.
Sure, it's not the signing that gets people excited one bit but I think this is where United are at this present moment in time.
I drew the comparison because both seem like problematic human beings.
I understand that but the thing is that this seems like a very Ten Hag signing to me. So I guess even if it's a problematic person, the fans might have to tolerate that for a season or two.
Totally but I think you're buying this guy as a plan B kinda player. The level at United are currently operating, Arnautovic isn't that unbelievable as a plan B off the bench.
Sure, it's not the signing that gets people excited one bit but I think this is where United are at this present moment in time.
I drew the comparison because both seem like problematic human beings.
There's is no defending this. If United do buy him then everything they tried to promote in the last couple of years in terms of race relations will look like the absolute marketing hype that it was. What utter crap.
Presumably it is money as in we don't have very much and cannot actually afford anyone in the 30M+ range, kind of fits with what we were told about transfer budgets for this summer but still sickening when you look at Chelsea and Arsenal once again blowing fortunes whilst we are off at the discount store.
If it is money there are still better alternatives. I would rather Belotti for example who is available on a free and is 5 years younger with a decent goal scoring record in Serie A. Not going to pull up any trees but he is hard working and would definitely press and can finish and I am not convinced Arnautovic can do any of those things at this point in his career.
Not by me...he's pissed all over his reputation as far as I'm concerned. Given there has also been talk of complaints about Arnautovic by the Womens' team at West Ham.....it would be perfectly timed to piss off the United Womens's team players who just won the Euro's - what an absolute farce this club has become.
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Can only think we have a pre agreement with someone like Nkunku for next year. Otherwise this makes zero sense.
Now that this lad mentions it, there have been links between us and Arnaoutovic before:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...ited-jose-mourinho-west-ham-marko-arnautovic/
Rebuilding... this will take another 10 years at least with these clowns in charge. How the feck are we going to get rid of these players next summer.
Was also linked before we ended up with Ighalo
Any signing the manager reluctantly agrees or resorts to because better options weren't secured can be described as "the manager's choice". It's meaningless.
WTF happens in our so-called recruitment department? I'd love an expose.
I'm starting to believe the Milinkovic Savic rumours are true cos it seems like, regardless of who the coach is, we stick to the same targets year after year without any clue of how they might fit a coherent strategy. If we are going after Arnautovic because, years ago, we watched him at West Ham...
Do we ever update the mythical list that we supposed watch players on? Why are we constantly going back to the same targets? Who is identifying these targets? I'm so baffled.
Why are some people neglecting the possibility that Ten Hagg wants Arnautovic? We’ve been following this transfer targets all summer - don’t see why that would change now.
I think the Austrians have slightly different take on racism than most Northern Europeans anyway.
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And yes, it means what you think it does.
I vaguely remember reading something about that - they had a poll of some kind, didn't they? For or against a logo change.
The logo is remarkably ugly - I mean, it looks like shit even if you don't factor in the obvious.
For good reason. Those of us who opposed the Ighalo signing did so because he was a shit player, despite being a wonderful human being.
Arnautovic, on the other hand, is a shit player and a horrible person.
Discussions have obviously taken place with the manager, it's no coincidence that we're suddenly bidding for players after yesterday
It's probably the managers choice but under what circumstances? we haven't waited 3 months to bid for Arny and Rabiot there must suddenly be a reason.
It's common knowledge that he wanted Antony and FDJ but he's ending up with these 2.
Couldn't word it any better
All I remember about this guy is him very deliberately pushing Debuchy into the advertising boards causing the latter to be injured for months.
Now I hear he's a racist too? Lovely chap.
Now I hear he's a racist too? Lovely chap.
Do Bologna have a backup striker? Hopefully they hold firm and we are spared this agony.
Because we are hoping it is untrue that ETH values a player with the character and abilities of Arnautovic. ETH has it rough with our shocking squad as it is, we don't want it to get worse by signing further dross.
This one just doesn’t make any sense at all.
Why not timo werner? Is he too costly?
Has this nightmare not stopped yet? Club surely can't go ahead with it if there's enough backlash.
Yeah he earns an absolute ton at Chelsea. Would very much like him though.
If we're going for cheap, can't see why we'd sign this twat over Memphis