Marko Arnautović | United have pulled out

Champ said:
He isn't a 'muppet', that's all absolute bollocks.

He's been playing for Bologna and scored two less goals last season than a striker who West Ham paid £30million for in a team that isn't as prolific in the league as Sassuolo. That'll get brushed over by the masses in here because it doesn't fit with their seething agendas.

He's a good player, the reason people on here can't see that is because they want the very best all the time, that ain't going to happen.
It's not about improving our starting eleven, that's actually decent enough up top, it's about improving the depth, unless you feel Garnacho and a wantaway Ronaldo is good enough support for Martial?
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The only agenda here is people don't want another over the hill stop gap signing. And it seems he's a racist as well.

Coming to the bolded part, how can you even say that after watching us today? Our only goal was from a set piece and it was an OG. Rashford and Bruno missed very good chances and have been shit for more or less for a year and you think our attack is decent? It's about improving depth but also getting in good quality. Not another 33 year old striker. That is the problem people have.
 
This reminds me of Liverpool's failure days before Goofy, when they'd go for the likes of Ricky Lambert, Peter Crouch and Robbie Fowler.
 
Champ said:
Which is a problem why? What's the alternative?

Garnarcho? Decent and a prospect but not ready yet.
Rashford? Not great through the middle.
Anyone else?
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This may come as a shock, but there are other forwards in Europe than the ones we’ve got and fecking Arnautovic, God give me strength. :lol:

I don’t see how anyone can defend this transfer, he’s bang average, past his best and a nightmare in the dressing room. It’s embarrassing that we’ve bid for him.
 
R'hllor said:
Where are the songs at, any chanters
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He’s a racist
A fecking racist
He won’t take the knee.

He’s a racist
A filthy racist
Our number 9, Arnie…

A whim-away, a whim-away, a whim-away….
 
Champ said:
He isn't a 'muppet', that's all absolute bollocks.

He's been playing for Bologna and scored two less goals last season than a striker who West Ham paid £30million for in a team that isn't as prolific in the league as Sassuolo. That'll get brushed over by the masses in here because it doesn't fit with their seething agendas.

He's a good player, the reason people on here can't see that is because they want the very best all the time, that ain't going to happen.
It's not about improving our starting eleven, that's actually decent enough up top, it's about improving the depth, unless you feel Garnacho and a wantaway Ronaldo is good enough support for Martial?
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Signing no one would be better than signing Arnautovic. All we'd be doing is adding more deadwood to the squad. We'd get to the end of the season and he'd be linked with a loan move away while we're left picking up half his wages
 
Dec9003 said:
This may come as a shock, but there are other forwards in Europe than the ones we’ve got and fecking Arnautovic, God give me strength. :lol:

I don’t see how anyone can defend this transfer, he’s bang average, past his best and a nightmare in the dressing room. It’s embarrassing that we’ve bid for him.
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There are some people here who will blindly defend everything the club does, with no exception. I'm convinced the Glazers have some paid shills infiltrating the Caf; there's no other explanation for it.
 
Champ said:
He isn't a 'muppet', that's all absolute bollocks.

He's been playing for Bologna and scored two less goals last season than a striker who West Ham paid £30million for in a team that isn't as prolific in the league as Sassuolo. That'll get brushed over by the masses in here because it doesn't fit with their seething agendas.

He's a good player, the reason people on here can't see that is because they want the very best all the time, that ain't going to happen.
It's not about improving our starting eleven, that's actually decent enough up top, it's about improving the depth, unless you feel Garnacho and a wantaway Ronaldo is good enough support for Martial?
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We are miles off in rating our players, Martial wouldn’t start for any top 6 side in the league and as it’s shown for the past 6 years and his latest loan at Sevilla he will flop once again, he’s nowhere near the standard over a 38 game season. We don’t need support for Martial, he in fact is the support player at best.

Id rather see Garnacho get minutes 100% than using those minutes on a soon to be 34 year old striker that wouldn’t get into a single PL side.

Spurs have Kane and Son and added Richarlison
Arsenal added Jesus
Chelsea added Sterling
City Haaland
Pool Nunez

In your world Martial is a starter and his backup is Marko Arnautovich? :lol:

Let’s not even get into the racism allegations either
 
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V.O. said:
A 33 year old player who "only scored two less goals" than the 23 year old West Ham have taken a punt on. :lol:

And this is a selling point. :lol::lol:
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Same player who went on strike to force his way out of West Ham to go to fecking China and has a history of improper behavior yet we should fine with bringing that into an already questionable dressing room just because he might score a few goals off the bench :lol:

feck off

Any of the other top 6 clubs would be justifiably ridiculed for the same move
 
Don't our new scouts and coach have any young prospects prospects they want to bring in?
 
V.O. said:
A 33 year old player who "only scored two less goals" than the 23 year old West Ham have taken a punt on. :lol:

And this is a selling point. :lol::lol:
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A thirty million pound punt.

That's a bit more of a gamble than £8m no?

Sesko scored 5 league goals last season, yet you're happy to spend £40m on him yeah?

Sometimes an issue doesn't need a long term solution, it just needs solving. I think we've come to that point.
 
Relevated said:
The 100 mill reports were probably true. Ther3s no money.
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Didn't the club make losses of £/$92 million last year? There's literally not a pot to piss in. We didn't get anything for 5 players that just left. Brilliant business.
 
Attila said:
So Erik likes his character...and this guy is a known racist. A new low for Man United
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Not a great look, is it?

I mean, the way this looks we've been working on a deal for some weeks - and the news breaks today (for whatever reason - it wasn't the result, it was reported before the match).

The reasons for targeting him (solid backup, offers something we lack, would be an asset to the dressing room, ETH has worked with him before and likes his attitude) are reported by multiple sources simultaneously, i.e. seems very much like a brief.

So, nobody - weeks ago, when the player was first approached - thought twice about this? Nobody realized that this is a stupid feckin' idea from a PR perspective? A random Caf member could have told them that this is a player who won't just arrive - like a "decent backup" transfer - under the radar, like: of course both fans on social media and journos of all sorts would react to United signing this prick. Do they understand nothing about how these things work - especially in England and especially when United are involved?
 
I can stomach it if we get in another striker as well. Just arnautovic on his own and i give up.
 
Rather we bring back welbeck

I try to stay positive, but this is just more of the same but somehow worse
 
Champ said:
Which is a problem why? What's the alternative?

Garnarcho? Decent and a prospect but not ready yet.
Rashford? Not great through the middle.
Anyone else?
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I didn't say it would be a problem. I was responding to a prior poster who suggested he'd be third-choice.
 
saik said:
The only agenda here is people don't want another over the hill stop gap signing. And it seems he's a racist as well.

Coming to the bolded part, how can you even say that after watching us today? Our only goal was from a set piece and it was an OG. Rashford and Bruno missed very good chances and have been shit for more or less for a year and you think our attack is decent? It's about improving depth but also getting in good quality. Not another 33 year old striker. That is the problem people have.
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Yeah, our attack is decent. We didn't struggle to score last season, and we won't struggle to score this season.
Our issue remain elsewhere.

So a striker who scored more goals than Leao last season isn't decent? Yet some on here were hoping for Leao, strange.

I'm all for buying for the future etc, but we have Garnacho who is one for the future, what we need is for the here and now, someone who will provide depth, goals and workrate. That's what Marko will give.
 
Fecking hell on the BBC? I really need the club to stop this shit now. This is terrible if it goes ahead.
 
Moriarty said:
I didn't say it would be a problem. I was responding to a prior poster who suggested he'd be third-choice.
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Yeah, and I was asking you why Marko stepping in as third choice would be an issue? As that's the idea of a squad, they step in when needed.
 
Champ said:
Yeah, our attack is decent. We didn't struggle to score last season, and we won't struggle to score this season.
Our issue remain elsewhere.

So a striker who scored more goals than Leao last season isn't decent? Yet some on here were hoping for Leao, strange.

I'm all for buying for the future etc, but we have Garnacho who is one for the future, what we need is for the here and now, someone who will provide depth, goals and workrate. That's what Marko will give.
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You keep ignoring the fact Arnautovic is a racist cnut.
 
Champ said:
A thirty million pound punt.

That's a bit more of a gamble than £8m no?

Sesko scored 5 league goals last season, yet you're happy to spend £40m on him yeah?

Sometimes an issue doesn't need a long term solution, it just needs solving. I think we've come to that point.
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I understand some of the logic behind the stopgap signings. Ronaldo is a legend of the game. Ibrahimovic and Cavani were world class in their day. All of these players have elite mentalities and even if it didn't work, I can see the reasoning for having them around the young attackers in the squad. Ighalo was very questionable, but at least he was a United fan who was made up to be at the club and gave his all the few times he was called upon.

Marko Arnautovic was a Stoke player in his prime. He had six seasons in the Premier League and his best goal return was 11 AND he's a racist AND he's a cnut AND he's shown to have attitude issues in other ways with the way he left West Ham. There is no redeeming feature of this signing.

If we want a naff striker on the cheap to bring off the bench we can find twenty better options for the same price with none of the baggage.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Not a great look, is it?

I mean, the way this looks we've been working on a deal for some weeks - and the news breaks today (for whatever reason - it wasn't the result, it was reported before the match).

The reasons for targeting him (solid backup, offers something we lack, would be an asset to the dressing room, ETH has worked with him before and likes his attitude) are reported by multiple sources simultaneously, i.e. seems very much like a brief.

So, nobody - weeks ago, when the player was first approached - thought twice about this? Nobody realized that this is a stupid feckin' idea from a PR perspective? A random Caf member could have told them that this is a player who won't just arrive - like a "decent backup" transfer - under the radar, like: of course both fans on social media and journos of all sorts would react to United signing this prick. Do they understand nothing about how these things work - especially in England and especially when United are involved?
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It's astonishing. I really don't know what to think.

ETH must know this about him though. So clearly our manager is cool with racists? That\s fecking depressing.
 
Lee565 said:
It's evidence that ten hag has run out of ideas, "oh damn I can't get Anthony, what other attacker can I sign from a small pool of players that I am comfortably familiar with?
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Yep. His mate’s aren’t going to get him out of this mess. We need much more quality and ambition - but time is pressing to spend what we needed to. 3 months wasted to pursue one player that’s not going to fix our problems, however good he is.
 
Don’t really see the problem with this. He’s a decent striker who can rotate with Martial, he was well above everyone else he played with at West Ham.

He has a bit of fire about him, he can score goals, and is good at being a target man. Get him in, and we go for a big name striker next season.
 
Champ said:
Yeah, our attack is decent. We didn't struggle to score last season, and we won't struggle to score this season.
Our issue remain elsewhere.

So a striker who scored more goals than Leao last season isn't decent? Yet some on here were hoping for Leao, strange.

I'm all for buying for the future etc, but we have Garnacho who is one for the future, what we need is for the here and now, someone who will provide depth, goals and workrate. That's what Marko will give.
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The main reason for that was Ronaldo scored half of those goals and he wants to now leave. If he leaves we are stuck with Martial and another 33 year old. We are fecked if this guy is the best we can come up with. "Good" character too, seeing as he left to play in China in what should be the prime years of his career. :wenger:

I have been supportive of ETH until now but I'll seriously start questioning him if this signing goes through.
 
FrankDrebin said:
You keep ignoring the fact Arnautovic is a racist cnut.
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I know nothing about that, and that has nothing to do with his footballing ability, which is what I am discussing.
Was he banned for the racism, or was it a mandatory one game?
As I remember it he wasn't banned for the full extent of racism, just a mandatory one game, but I could be wrong, as I say I don't know anything about it.
 
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