Marcus Rashford (out)

i would love to see him at Barca. They play counter attack and live off moments, dont they. Rashy absorbs instructions like a sponge
 
Are bidding wars even a thing anymore? I hope this generates some competition among the clubs - though it sounds more like an opportunistic signing than filling a gap.
For Milan he plays in the same position as Leao, I don't see him displacing Raphina/Yamal combinations at Barcelona, Unsure how he suits a Motta system at Juventus and I think Dortmund just want a 6 month run at a free asset with no real intention to buy.
 
USREDEVIL said:
This reminds me of the Ronaldo situation where he was pimped out across Europe only to land in Saudi Arabia. Yikes.
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The parallels are there — it’s his agency who is the one shopping him around and pushing for talks with desirable clubs like Milan, Dortmund, Barcelona etc. and then there’s such a stark contrast with clubs like Como, West Ham, and Monaco making unprompted offers for him.

Are we seeing a case of “what Rashford wants” vs “which clubs actually want Rashford”?
 
Tarrou said:
when you said it would make sense for him financially it doesn't because the numbers are not close to adding up

his market value is comfortably less than 50% of his current wage so extending his contract from 3.5 years to 5 years doesn't make up the shortfall

and that's before you consider there's more chance of him pivoting to a career in the NBA than someone giving him a 5 year deal at this point
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That’s all just speculation and opinion, and has nothing to do with mathematics.
 
DWelbz19 said:
The parallels are there — it’s his agency who is the one shopping him around and pushing for talks with desirable clubs like Milan, Dortmund, Barcelona etc. and then there’s such a stark contrast with clubs like Como, West Ham, and Monaco making unprompted offers for him.

Are we seeing a case of “what Rashford wants” vs “which clubs actually want Rashford”?
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Yeah. Very much looks it, doesn't it?

This is what happens when you surround yourself with people who won't be honest with you.

Before pressing the button on that Henry Winter piece Rashford's camp should have been sure of a desirable escape route. They didn't believe they had to be. They thought as soon as word got out that their guy was available all the greats would come running.

I'm embarrassed for the kid, I genuinely am.
 
Zlatan 7 said:
The posters saying we can’t get more than £21 mil because of his wages here. He’s not garunteed those wages at his next club is he? And if he wants to continue playing football and have his new challenge then that could mean on lower wages. Or just stay here on the bench or dropped from squad. So the selling price should be a lot more than £20mil.
Or am I being stupid
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The wages thing is more for our sake, if we get the numbers for the wages down the finances will look a lot healthier (especially if Casemiro leaves too). What people are saying is that although a fee of 20 or 30 million might not look much, the fact that you’re getting 300K a week off your wage bill is a factor for consideration when selling.
 
Hate those new rules. Everyone is an accountant and every transfer thread like a never ending business meeting
 
Tarrou said:
okay mate you're right, if someone gives him 250k a week for 5 years he's sorted
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Can you tell me how much Rashford actually earns per week, and how you came to these numbers, out of interest?

Most websites have his base salary at £300,000 per week.

It was also confirmed in the past that players wages would be reduced when United aren’t playing champions league football, sometimes by 25%.

Manchester United stars set for 25 per cent wage cut
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...tml?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

On that basis, he could be earning as low as £225,000 per week base, which equates to £35,100,0000 over the remaining three years of his contract.

A five year contract would need to be £135,000 a week to match the total value (on a gross basis, anyway).

His salary may not have been reduced by 25%, as that’s just speculation. But I would say you should consider your own maths here, because I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t need a five year deal on £250,000 per week to see any financial upside.
 
Posh Red said:
Man, there are some really aggy people on this forum at the moment :lol:
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you made a silly claim then doubled down and deflected instead of admitting the painfully obvious

now all you have left is to claim I was being mean to you when I was clearly taking the piss
 
deef said:
Hate those new rules. Everyone is an accountant and every transfer thread like a never ending business meeting
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Literally 2 minutes after this post, an accountancy post appears.

Not sure why everyone so into the numbers.

I’m just gutted as watched a highlights of reel from when he was a bit younger and he had genuine desire and hunger, just gutted we can’t get that Marcus back. He just seems depressed all the time now
 
Posh Red said:
Can you tell me how much Rashford actually earns per week, and how you came to these numbers, out of interest?

Most websites have his base salary at £300,000 per week.

It was also confirmed in the past that players wages would be reduced when United aren’t playing champions league football, sometimes by 25%.

Manchester United stars set for 25 per cent wage cut
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...tml?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

On that basis, he could be earning as low as £225,000 per week base, which equates to £35,100,0000 over the remaining three years of his contract.

A five year contract would need to be £135,000 a week to match the total value (on a gross basis, anyway).

His salary may not have been reduced by 25%, as that’s just speculation. But I would say you should consider your own maths here, because I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t need a five year deal on £250,000 per week to see any financial upside.
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He has 3.5 years left. That's probably where you went wrong.

On top of that, he has to work an additional 1.5 years to earn the same money

and obviously no ones giving him 5 years at 135k, he's turned to shite
 
Tarrou said:
you made a silly claim then doubled down and deflected instead of admitting the painfully obvious

now all you have left is to claim I was being mean to you when I was clearly taking the piss
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I don’t think it is a silly claim, and I think you were being quite facetious, to be honest.

Even if Rashford is on a full £300,000 per week, a five year deal would need to pay £180,000 to have the same remuneration overall.

And that’s before you consider the fact that’s he’s far more likely to earn bonuses and invectives at a club where he can actually play. It ignores the fact that if he sits on yeh contract at United, his chance of securing a good contract after that drop off dramatically too, compared to playing at another club more often, with a chance of earning more money in the future. It ignores any potential differences in the tax treatment of his earnings in the UK vs wherever he could end up playing.

I really don’t see why people feel the need to make such black-and-white statements about things where we have nowhere near enough information available. We don’t even really known what his current weekly wage is.
 
Posh Red said:
I don’t think it is a silly claim, and I think you were being quite facetious, to be honest.

Even if Rashford is on a full £300,000 per week, a five year deal would need to pay £180,000 to have the same remuneration overall.

And that’s before you consider the fact that’s he’s far more likely to earn bonuses and invectives at a club where he can actually play. It ignores the fact that if he sits on yeh contract at United, his chance of securing a good contract after that drop off dramatically too, compared to playing at another club more often, with a chance of earning more money in the future. It ignores any potential differences in the tax treatment of his earnings in the UK vs wherever he could end up playing.

I really don’t see why people feel the need to make such black-and-white statements about things where we have nowhere near enough information available. We don’t even really known what his current weekly wage is.
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this is literally the precise reason I replied to your original point :lol:

lets move on, sorry for being a dick
 
Tarrou said:
this is literally the precise reason I replied to your original point :lol:
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You mocked me for suggesting it’s possible that it could be financially beneficial for Rashford to take a lower wage over a longer contract, on the basis that it could be beneficial to him financially. I don’t know what you based that on.
 
Posh Red said:
You mocked me for suggesting it’s possible that it could be financially beneficial for Rashford to take a lower wage over a longer contract, on the basis that it could be beneficial to him financially. I don’t know what you based that on.
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you had to change the length of his contract to make it work and you still think you're right
 
Tarrou said:
you had to change the length of his contract to make it work and you still think you're right
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Mate, I used an example to illustrate a point. Do you have access to his payslips so we can do a real forensic analysis? And where did £250k a week over five years come from?
 
Posh Red said:
Mate, I used an example to illustrate a point. Do you have access to his payslips so we can do a real forensic analysis? And where did £250k a week over five years come from?
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you used an example that was factually wrong

what am I supposed to do with that other than chuckle
 
Tarrou said:
you used an example that was factually wrong

what am I supposed to do with that other than chuckle
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Come one now, mate. It’s using hypothetical to make a point. Why on earth would it matter if I said three years or three and half years, when we are discussing hypotheticals and guesswork when it comes to his current salary and any potential new salary?
 
cpresc said:
Literally 2 minutes after this post, an accountancy post appears.

Not sure why everyone so into the numbers.

I’m just gutted as watched a highlights of reel from when he was a bit younger and he had genuine desire and hunger, just gutted we can’t get that Marcus back. He just seems depressed all the time now
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Yeah, his potential was exciting and seemed to be level headed local lad.
Sadly it didn‘t turned out as we thought.

Hope we manage to do better with acadamy players coming through to be better prepared with the crazy world of professional football.

It were different times and probably not possible anymore but I think SAF managed the finances or restricted access to the money. He was like a strict parent for the young talents
 
cpresc said:
Literally 2 minutes after this post, an accountancy post appears.

Not sure why everyone so into the numbers.

I’m just gutted as watched a highlights of reel from when he was a bit younger and he had genuine desire and hunger, just gutted we can’t get that Marcus back. He just seems depressed all the time now
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Just trying to think of realistic ways he could potentially leave the club. I’m also really gutted about how it’s turned out with Rashford. Looked at for a great career set the club.
 
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