Marcus Rashford (out)

From the website:

In this case, PSG should have significant competition in England from Manchester United. The departure of Marcus Rashford will push the Mancunians to strengthen offensively. Here too, concrete contacts have already begun in both directions, with the idea of a possible exchange between the two men.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...lance-la-piste-khvitcha-kvaratskhelia/1530988

Ahh, exciting. Nice one, thank you. Hopefully it happens, we haven't had a skilful player in the mould of Kvara since...that one season Januzaj was good? Maybe Di Maria?
 
Does he though? I dont think me or you can understand some of the logic.

If football was my dream and I made it and at United, surely you know how hard it is. Footballers career is short, so when you play the game, you want to be at your best. The one thing I cannot forgive or understand from footballers is effort, you can have all the talent or none, you do not need any talent to work hard off the ball. He can go clubbing and partying after retiring.

For years we have seen him and Lingard not care about football, Rashford's career is heading the same way. Lingard had a choice of West Ham for a multiple year contract but low wage or 200k 1 year contract at Forest, he chose the money and is now in Japan.

Rashford will chose money over career.
Unfortunately, you're almost certainly right. He doesn't seem to have the desire or fight to turn it around. But who knows, I'm an optimist - I just really don't want to see him sulking about at Old Trafford again.
 
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Well I'm shocked... not.

Just listening to Norwegian MU podcast, where one of the hosts mentioned a discussion they had about Rashford about 4 years ago, where reports had been coming from MU, that his teammates at the time where very unhappy with his effort in training and on the pitch... so to people that can't believe that Rashford is lazy or hasn't been 100% committed, is not new at all. The host that mentioned this, is a guy that on twitter broke the Shaw injury news at the start of this season 2 or 3 days before the club itself came out with the news, so they have contacts inside the club and has had it for many years(for anyone doubting the info I'm sharing here).
 
Well I'm shocked... not.

Just listening to Norwegian MU podcast, where one of the hosts mentioned a discussion they had about Rashford about 4 years ago, where reports had been coming from MU, that his teammates at the time where very unhappy with his effort in training and on the pitch... so to people that can't believe that Rashford is lazy or hasn't been 100% committed, is not new at all. The host that mentioned this, is a guy that on twitter broke the Shaw injury news at the start of this season 2 or 3 days before the club itself came out with the news, so they have contacts inside the club and has had it for many years(for anyone doubting the info I'm sharing here).
That would have been Ole/Rangnik time, yes? Ralf dropped him for Elanga so thats not a shock
 
Well I'm shocked... not.

Just listening to Norwegian MU podcast, where one of the hosts mentioned a discussion they had about Rashford about 4 years ago, where reports had been coming from MU, that his teammates at the time where very unhappy with his effort in training and on the pitch... so to people that can't believe that Rashford is lazy or hasn't been 100% committed, is not new at all. The host that mentioned this, is a guy that on twitter broke the Shaw injury news at the start of this season 2 or 3 days before the club itself came out with the news, so they have contacts inside the club and has had it for many years(for anyone doubting the info I'm sharing here).
It could never well have turned out differently for Rashford if he had a stern manager at some crucial points in his career - unfortunately, he had a pandering Ole
 
Just don't play him. He either takes a pay cut to fulfil his ambition to push for the England squad or hel go Saudi for the money.
I agree with this sentiment entirely

All well and good sitting around just collecting 300k a week but there comes a point (after not playing) that he and his agent realise he needs to get paid what he can elsewhere.

Thats assuming of course he does still have an interest in playing/conpeting

Don’t play him. At all. Force the move
 
So it turns out Rashy's little "i'm ready to go" interview wasn't actually with a move set up! Makes it seem even sillier then.
 
Only the Prem and Saudi could get close to his salary really.

So it’s a shame no club in England fancies a punt. But then again everyone England will have watched him pretend to play football for the last 12 months so you can’t blame them.
 
He's a prime example of the issue United fans/the club have with overrating/romanticising their academy players too much. Everyone wants every academy player to be the new "class of 92" and it often ends up with holding on and giving players endless chances to make it before moving them on. In Rashfords situation, he DID make it to the point of being a quality forward. But then United fans and the club go even further and start pushing him as this untouchable, world class talent and player and pay him as such while ignoring countless red flags. We indulge these players at every turn because they are "local lads" and are never able to just say no. Now we are reaping what we sow.

In general we indulge players and overrate them for far too long, but Rashford is the ultimate example of this. People make a montage of clips from 2017 and say "can't believe some fans want him sold, local lad born and bred" when the player himself hasn't treated the club and his position in it with the sort of reverence you'd think for almost half a decade!
 
It could never well have turned out differently for Rashford if he had a stern manager at some crucial points in his career - unfortunately, he had a pandering Ole
He had LVG first and then two and a half years of Jose before Ole became his manager, blaming Ole for Rashford's inability to take responsibility for his career sounds more like some weird agenda than anything close to the truth.
 


Why don't they buy him then?


I hate how clubs simply feign poverty and ask for loans with no buy options when they want our players.

When we buy from them though, it's 100 million or go home.

You're AC fecking Milan. Show me the money.
 
He's a prime example of the issue United fans/the club have with overrating/romanticising their academy players too much. Everyone wants every academy player to be the new "class of 92" and it often ends up with holding on and giving players endless chances to make it before moving them on. In Rashfords situation, he DID make it to the point of being a quality forward. But then United fans and the club go even further and start pushing him as this untouchable, world class talent and player and pay him as such while ignoring countless red flags. We indulge these players at every turn because they are "local lads" and are never able to just say no. Now we are reaping what we sow.

In general we indulge players and overrate them for far too long, but Rashford is the ultimate example of this. People make a montage of clips from 2017 and say "can't believe some fans want him sold, local lad born and bred" when the player himself hasn't treated the club and his position in it with the sort of reverence you'd think for almost half a decade!
Fair post.
 


Why don't they buy him then?


Loan with obligation to buy in the summer is fine. He’ll do really well there, I am sure of it.

Half of his problem is mental, needs a change of scenery. It’s all gotten too comfortable and a bit stale here.
 
He's a prime example of the issue United fans/the club have with overrating/romanticising their academy players too much. Everyone wants every academy player to be the new "class of 92" and it often ends up with holding on and giving players endless chances to make it before moving them on. In Rashfords situation, he DID make it to the point of being a quality forward. But then United fans and the club go even further and start pushing him as this untouchable, world class talent and player and pay him as such while ignoring countless red flags. We indulge these players at every turn because they are "local lads" and are never able to just say no. Now we are reaping what we sow.

In general we indulge players and overrate them for far too long, but Rashford is the ultimate example of this. People make a montage of clips from 2017 and say "can't believe some fans want him sold, local lad born and bred" when the player himself hasn't treated the club and his position in it with the sort of reverence you'd think for almost half a decade!
I don't deny there is (maybe was) an element of truth to what you are saying with our fanbase, but I think we have also seen recently with Garnacho and Mainoo that just like any fanbase, we can turn on a player pretty quickly too.

I think in this case it's much more of a case of Rashford's PR team doing all the stuff you suggest our fanbase was doing. These people are literally award-winning PR professionals and the majority of the population is pretty easily brainwashed and they know how to do it to them. A couple stories about feeding starving kids during the week, drops a stinker on the weekend, who's going to jump on his back and criticize the child feeder? You ignore the obvious, look for the few positives and give some credit to the selfless young man who is giving so much back, so you dont look like the asshole criticizing the guy who feeds kids. The more that happens the more you become an outsider by rightfully criticizing performances, next thing you know you can't find a negative thing about said person, all positives promoted, all negatives suppressed and we end up in this situation where a player with pretty limited talents is convinced he's the next George Best.
 
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Its a terribly sourced aggregator tweet. I couldn't even find any reference on the underlying linked account about this.

Although it does make sense in terms of a swap, the wages don't make sense at all. Rashford is on £325k/wk and Kvara is currently making £30k/wk. Therefore United would have to eat a lot of money by either subsidizing a large chunk of Rashford's wages so that Napoli can afford him, whilst also paying Kvara a lot more than what he currently makes.

Nevermind that this is story is probably fabricated out of thin air and that Kvara may not want to move to a club not in the CL next year.
 
Just don't play him. He either takes a pay cut to fulfil his ambition to push for the England squad or hel go Saudi for the money.
That is what other clubs would do. And he would leave in that terms (instead sitting on the stands for the rest of contract). But we will not do that.
 
He had LVG first and then two and a half years of Jose before Ole became his manager, blaming Ole for Rashford's inability to take responsibility for his career sounds more like some weird agenda than anything close to the truth.
It is the truth, all the 'Rashy' nonsense and the non football stuff started whole Ole was the manager. He was pandered to no end.