Marcus Rashford (out)

Ljungster said:
So we should just believe Mitten who sells himself to the Ineos people for interviews? The same Ineos who so far has proven to be absolutely heartless and penny pinching towards everyone inside the club?

Put the blme on the people in charge who so far has run the club into the ground and from a PR perspective United is looked at as a disaster so far under their reign.
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We know that he had issues with Ole (where the manager first criticized him then was forced to apologize to him), with ETH and now with Amorim. How many games does Rashford need to jog on the pitch before you acknowledge that he's a problem?

And yes salary is an issue. Its easier to close an eye to a underperforming employee whose paid on minimum wage as opposed to someone whose paid 360k a week.
 
devilish said:
We know that he had issues with Ole (where the manager first criticized him then was forced to apologize to him), with ETH and now with Amorim. How many games does Rashford need to jog on the pitch before you acknowledge that he's a problem?
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Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
 
We already knew every manager has had well publicised issues with Rashford without Mitten telling us. The only one who didnt have issues that seeped into the public domain was LVG. Even Ralf was briefing against him.
 
Ljungster said:
Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
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He’s scored goals in the past.

Right now though he’s a lazy shithouse who doesn’t get near scoring and doesn’t help out defensively. He’s a complete liability and clearly his attitude has gone beyond repair. How can you not see that?
 
Ljungster said:
Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
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Hojlund is a 21 year old whose on 85k a week and he had never had any disciplinary issues. He's closer in terms of salary to Malacia and Evans then to Rashy. Rashy is a 27 year old senior player whose paid at par to the likes of Salah. Can you spot the difference?

Hojlund will probably end as a squad player. He is paid as so. Rashford is paid 360k to deliver like an absolute WC player. He is simply not delivering the goods
 
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Ljungster said:
Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
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Are you Rashford, using a secret account? It'd explain the irrational posts here and about Amorim
 
devilish said:
Hojlund is a 21 year old whose on 85k a week and he had never had any disciplinary issues. He's closer in terms of salary to Malacia and Evans then to Rashy. Rashy is a 27 year old senior player whose paid at par to the likes of Salah. Can you spot the difference?
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Rashford cost us nothing... To complain about the salary and excluding the fact that Höjlund cost a bomb is just you cherry picking.. If you look at Rashford stats they were going up until first he had his surgery after paying through injury for the club and England. He then had his best season under ETH where he was our primary outlet and then we changed that to have Höjlund as our primary outlook and look where that took us?

Höjlund has proven himself to be at a worse level than Kolo Muani at PSG and they have excluded him..
 
hobbers said:
We already knew every manager has had well publicised issues with Rashford without Mitten telling us. The only one who didnt have issues that seeped into the public domain was LVG. Even Ralf was briefing against him.
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Yeah, this is another Mitten special where he arrives late to the party to tell us information we already all knew and to brag about how well connected he is.

God forbid that a journalist, which he insists he is, actually gives specific insight using his sources, but it's always been clear that his primary goal is to be mates with the players and managers at United above all else.
 
Ljungster said:
Rashford cost us nothing... To complain about the salary and excluding the fact that Höjlund cost a bomb is just you cherry picking.. If you look at Rashford stats they were going up until first he had his surgery after paying through injury for the club and England. He then had his best season under ETH where he was our primary outlet and then we changed that to have Höjlund as our primary outlook and look where that took us?

Höjlund has proven himself to be at a worse level than Kolo Muani at PSG and they have excluded him..
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He 'costed us nothing' because he's an academy player. We literally made him (coaching, time, pr) . However the issue here is salary. We simply cant have a 15.6m a year player jogging on the pitch. It makes zero financial sense and his mates won't accept it either. Players gauge the wage demands according to the highest earners. That what led to Barca salary creep during Messi time. His teammates would come in and ask for at least 1/2 to 2/3 of his salary cause they were producing half the goods

Muani is on 200k a week.
 
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It's absolutely brilliant to finally have management who won't tolerate rotten scumbags like Rashford at the club.

Removing problematic players and finally fixing that toxic culture is one of the most important jobs to be done. It's been clear for years that numerous players have become entitled brats who think they're above the club and can behave with impunity. Is it any wonder they play like they don't give a feck? Imagine academy players, or new signings coming into a dressing room and seeing that. It's not a great impression

Hopefully he's gone in the coming weeks
 
RedDevil@84 said:
So how did he end up playing so many games for these managers and getting extension deals.

The only explanation is that the club admins forced the managers to suck it up and play him even when not in form.
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Despite inconsistencies in his performance, Rashford for a while was always one of our better players. Coupled with the fact that he’s an academy kid. Think the club decided we aren’t going to find anyone better, so let’s suck it up and protect him.
Now, he’s been out of form for two season, and on crazy wages, club sees no benefit in protecting him anymore.
 
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RedDevil@84 said:
So how did he end up playing so many games for these managers and getting extension deals.

The only explanation is that the club admins forced the managers to suck it up and play him even when not in form.
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ETH was recruited for, among other things, specifically pointing out how he was going to bring out the best in Rashford.

Personally don't get it, me, all this fuss about the guy. Been clear for years now that he is not what he's been built up to be. But then, I came up seeing 'real' Carrington products break through.
 
Ljungster said:
So we should just believe Mitten who sells himself to the Ineos people for interviews? The same Ineos who so far has proven to be absolutely heartless and penny pinching towards everyone inside the club?

Put the blme on the people in charge who so far has run the club into the ground and from a PR perspective United is looked at as a disaster so far under their reign.
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Not sure if you listen to the Talk Of The Devils podcast from The Athletic, but Andy is one of the presenters on it and he’s been pretty upfront in his criticism of Ineos and Ratcliffe’s approach in their/his first year in control of the club.

For what it’s worth I think Andy’s one of the most credible journalists covering United, he never seems to be reporting from the position of furthering an agenda or as a mouthpiece for the club.
 
Ljungster said:
So we should just believe Mitten who sells himself to the Ineos people for interviews? The same Ineos who so far has proven to be absolutely heartless and penny pinching towards everyone inside the club?

Put the blme on the people in charge who so far has run the club into the ground and from a PR perspective United is looked at as a disaster so far under their reign.
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Yes.
 
He's a token of our failed era. Purely out of symbolism alone, it's worth getting him out. Same reason I was happy to see De Gea leave.
 
devilish said:
We know that he had issues with Ole (where the manager first criticized him then was forced to apologize to him), with ETH and now with Amorim. How many games does Rashford need to jog on the pitch before you acknowledge that he's a problem?

And yes salary is an issue. Its easier to close an eye to a underperforming employee whose paid on minimum wage as opposed to someone whose paid 360k a week.
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I'm not saying he isn't a problem. I'm saying he's our best option to actually get goals compared to our other attackers. Last time I checked the primary target of an attacker is to get goals and not just run around. Höjlund looks like he is actually running but most of the time it's him running around like a chicken. Our problem for a long time has been a disjointed press, it's not a good press because Höjlund and Bruno runs around and the other team does 2 easy passes and then they have passed around them with ease.

Can't compare that since from an economical point of view you need to add in Höjlunds transfer fee.. That money could have been used to getting an actual Striker and not a young player with "potential". In reality, would we have been so much worse with Ethan Weathly up front instead of Höjlund?

RDCR07 said:
He is just a troll.
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Not really but some of you people need to hear other opinions and takes on things. The current blame on Rashford is to much considering what Ineos is doing to the fans with ticket prices, the foundations for old players, the staff layoffs, ditchering with ETH and then getting Amorin mid season etc. That is where the critique should be aimed primarily.

Should Rashford improve? Ofcourse! But the club should have keept it internal because the current witchhunt is just tanking his value .. You think PSG feels ready to take him on if all they see is bad information
 
Sam Wallace is speculating about some sort of brief compromise between Rashford & Amorim, to protect his value, and help the team, and that things aren't at a point where there is no way back, (like Sancho and ETH).

I wonder how he'll be received at OT on Monday if he does come back into the team.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Sam Wallace is speculating about some sort of brief compromise between Rashford & Amorim, to protect his value, and help the team, and that things aren't at a point where there is no way back, (like Sancho and ETH).

I wonder how he'll be received at OT on Monday if he does come back into the team.
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I’m surprised he wasn’t included after the match against Tottenham. He’s been dropped for a total of 4 matches now.
 
NotChatGPT said:
I’m surprised he wasn’t included after the match against Tottenham. He’s been dropped for a total of 4 matches now.
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Indeed, and with the team struggling badly as well.

But all this does is confirms all things everyone has been saying about Rashford for ages now, it's just sad that Amorim has had to be the one to finally call him out on it.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Indeed, and with the team struggling badly as well.

But all this does is confirms all things everyone has been saying about Rashford for ages now, it's just sad that Amorim has had to be the one to finally call him out on it.
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Well, it’s definitely beyond «making a point» and well into «this is an ongoing problem»

Will be interesting to see if he’s in the squad for Newcastle or not.
 
Ljungster said:
Rashford cost us nothing... To complain about the salary and excluding the fact that Höjlund cost a bomb is just you cherry picking.. If you look at Rashford stats they were going up until first he had his surgery after paying through injury for the club and England. He then had his best season under ETH where he was our primary outlet and then we changed that to have Höjlund as our primary outlook and look where that took us?

Höjlund has proven himself to be at a worse level than Kolo Muani at PSG and they have excluded him..
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I don't get this player FC angle. Rashford is not United quality and never has been,the fact that Mazraoui and Diallo are shaming up our whole squad proves how low our levels have gone.

Rashford averages around 10 goals per season, no way our level. And the time we needed him the most he can't be bothered. His attitude stinks and finally we have a manager who has stood up to it rather than praising him. He can go and take Gernacho with him.
 
Rashford is a write off. What matters now is that the talented youngsters at United understand that the club will no longer over indulge them or be held to ransom. They are the future of the club and avoiding another petulant prima donna would be best for all concerned. Mctominay never had the talent that Rashford had but worked his socks off, took dogs abuse along the way on here but is loved by Scotland fans and, dare I say, almost all United fans are happy to see him succeed in Napoli. Marcus will be yesterday’s news once he is out of the club as he will have to drop to his form level which is Getafe or Valencia.
 
Ljungster said:
Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
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Marcus, please get off the forum and get looking for a new club with your agent.

Marcus Rashford has been given countless opportunities to impress as a striker and has failed for a long time. For a player who barely runs with intent, the striker role just makes him look even more lazy than he is.
 
For years fans have talked about bad influences / bad apples amongst the players and United have been slowly weeding them out. Rashford has been here since Lvg and it’s become clear that he’s the same. How he still has people rabidly defending him is bonkers. I don’t like INEOS by any means but I back them on this. If we want to build a proper team unit, then we must start making the hard calls
 
Can't wait to see the back of him. Was a decent player at one time, but never a world beater. Terrible attitude and absolutely rubbish for ages now.

For me, I think Garnacho should be following him too. He's so poor in so many areas and seems to be primed as the replacement for 'Rashy' in terms of personality.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Any solid links to clubs?
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It’s telling that there isn’t. If there was a glimmer of interest from anyone PRashford’s team would have told every journalist all about how coveted he is.
 
I didn’t buy the theory from people years ago that he was secretly depressed and had mental health issues, because if so, why was he even involved in match day squads. Maybe he was just a dick whose head was up his ass. There’s been many players like that before Rashford and many players like that to come.

In hindsight, it does shed light on some things like Solskjaer having to apologise for hinting that Rashford was not 100% a team player makes it seem like Rashford went over him and tattled to the Glazers, and they obliged him therefore completely undermining the manager.
 
Ljungster said:
Because Höjlund running around like a headless chicken, having a stinking attitude towards his teammates with no striker instinct while costing the club 75mil which with his salary makes him more expensive than Rashford.. Is that better? Our best hope to score goals is Rashford, he's our best goalscorer in the PL and have barely been played striker
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Jesus just stop defending him ffs. Ye fanboys of particular players are the weirdest people on here I swear.
 
Petty damming from Mitten
Guy wants out
Multiple managers have had issues with him
Sell and move on
Don't know how some still defend this
 
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