That seems to be the case, too big to be disciplined in his mind. I mean he missed training whilst out on the piss and was playing days later he probably thought he was untouchable
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That seems to be the case, too big to be disciplined in his mind. I mean he missed training whilst out on the piss and was playing days later he probably thought he was untouchable
This is all very uninteresting.
Move him out of the club in January or the summer.
Move him out of the club in January or the summer.
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I think it finally confirms it though. Most have been able to read between the lines by now but for the few remaining who didn’t want to accept he’s also a problem it’s now been confirmed by an incredibly reliable source.
Really frustrating looking back with his 3 and 6 goal seasons whilst showing absolutely zero fight on the pitch
I remember one game against City a few years ago and I don’t think he burst into a sprint and had zero intent on closing down, he just jogged around with a slapped ass for a face for 90 minutes
Seriously feck him I hope he never wears the shirt again
I remember one game against City a few years ago and I don’t think he burst into a sprint and had zero intent on closing down, he just jogged around with a slapped ass for a face for 90 minutes
Seriously feck him I hope he never wears the shirt again
Any details as to how? Can't listen
Yeah. Hopefully some Saudi side give us stupid money.
The negativity created by the Glazers in conjunction with Rashford’s purple patches on and off the pitch allowed his savvy PR team to hold the club to ransom. Whatever else Ineos and Amorin get wrong it is to their eternal credit that they have identified Rashford as embodying so much that is wrong at Utd and unlike the Glazers and Ole understand that they have to win this battle whatever the cost.
He fooled me. Now he gives me the ick when I think about the times I defended him around here. Another waste of space on massive wages. Depressingly rotten club at the moment. Sad shit.
It's hard to remember a player being given so many chances to redeem themselves at any club.
It goes without saying that he'd have been gone a long time ago under Sir Alex, but also that maybe he needed that father-like presence that he could impart onto young players losing their way.
It's a sad situation and there is both blame on Marcus, the club and managers for indulging him for so long.
I wish him luck, but I don't want to see him play for us again.
It goes without saying that he'd have been gone a long time ago under Sir Alex, but also that maybe he needed that father-like presence that he could impart onto young players losing their way.
It's a sad situation and there is both blame on Marcus, the club and managers for indulging him for so long.
I wish him luck, but I don't want to see him play for us again.
The disdain for Rashford is so bad we are just making up any old crap that he may have done
If you check about hojlund fee it shifts between 62m and 74m. The reason being that some journalists add add-ons to it while others don't. Add ons get activated when certain performance milestones are met. I doubt we hit many milestones lately.
On top of that when one spend money on a kid, most is built around potential. The fee is also staggered into X amount of years which means that a 60m fee would probably cost the club 10m a year for 6 years. If the player is sold in the 3rd year for 40m then the club would make a 10m profit
Academy players didn't cost nothing. It required careful scouting at a young age, it required years of development and ample first team experience to refine them into top talent. Few players actually make it and while it's still a profit centre, the profit is so slim that there were many clubs who opted not to invest too much in it. There was a time when United was one of those clubs
Things had changed lately with ffp as youth talent now represent pure profit. That act as an incentive for clubs to sell academy players. That not just Rashy but almost anyone bothered at united and beyond. City for example sold Trafford and Palmer.
Now back to salary. When I was old enough to follow football the fee was the centre of everything. I remember spending weeks discussing shearer 15m fee which in hindsight is ridiculous considering that he was a way better striker then all modern strikers, haaland inc.
That shifted in the EPL post treble. I remember united nearly losing prime Roy Keane on a free because they were so reluctant to break the wage structure. After they were forced to relented, united witnessed a spike in salary increases as everyone gained his salary expectations on Keane (a common phenomenon in football)
That cut both ways. A high earner must perform as a high earner. I was the first to say that a declining Keane was on thin ice and I repeated the same thing when Sancho mental issues came out. In both cases I was vilified for it to the point that my country was insulted for it (all Maltese are aholes). In both cases I was right. A well run club can't afford that his high earner isn't performing.
I think Rashford was pencilled to be sold next summer. He pushed the transfer to be done now so he avoid being tainted by this disastrous season. His Henry winter interview was his crossing the Rubicon moment for him and there's no way he can paddle back. Not that he can.
Yeah he's had exclusive interviews with pretty much every ex United manager. And I don't see how he's sold himself to INEOS, he's been critical of them on his podcast. All he has done is explain the reasons why they are cost cutting at the club.
There’s a vid two pages back
Did he give specific examples of why or just that he’s been a problem?
Just that all previous mangers had told mitten they’d had a problem with Rashford. It was basically that one sentance
I was thinking that if Rashford stays, players like garnacho would eventually go the same way. With Rashford gone, the club make a statement and players like garnacho have a chance to heed the lesson and develop into a well rounded person
SAF used to say that no player is bigger than the club but it sounds like Rashford had become exactly that
SAF used to say that no player is bigger than the club but it sounds like Rashford had become exactly that
The media really have you all on a string for the auld outrage. It is so easy for them with this fan base.
Not even a hard call he's been rubbish for nearly 2 years
Ahh so didn’t expand on what the problem was?
So you’re a fan of keeping?
Where do you stand on this? RashIN or RashOUT?
Definitely not. But not a fan of posting the same outrage every day. I understand people need an outlet for anger since the manager is too new, but I think it is horrible.
Not that I heard
I agree. The name calling is beyond the pale. And reducing his off pitch efforts to just PR is just daily mail like manufactured reality. He's just not got it in him to be the footballer we want him to be. That's not a crime.
Mitten has been hinting for a long time that Rashford has issues, if you’ve ever listened to any of his podcasts. He is also very well sourced, he’s just not a headline journalist. He specialises in long form pieces, the stories of clubs/players and terrace culture.
I am quite sad about it really and I think any true United fan should be. It seems obvious Rashford has lost his way over the past few years and I suspect the turmoil at the club as he has been developing hasn’t helped.
I’m not sure what kind of character he is but I suspect he’d of benefited coming through when we had stability in and around him, and leadership on and off the pitch. I don’t think the club has provided him with the right environment if I’m honest and I suspect he’s been allowed to become quite spoilt and above criticism. Really damaging for a dressing room.
I think what’s clear now though, especially after the Mitten piece, is that he’s gone. No coming back from this.
I’d be really interested to hear both sides of the story when it’s all said and done.
Some of us said he needed to be sold summers ago but was told how wrong we were, especially when he scored the odd goal here and there.
What pisses me off is him getting a bumper new contract with a wage increase, even after every manager having issues with him, the people in charge need to grow a backbone.
What pisses me off is him getting a bumper new contract with a wage increase, even after every manager having issues with him, the people in charge need to grow a backbone.
This is someone close to the club publicly admitting Rashford has been a headache for several managers, having spoke to the managers themselves. Hardly everyday outrage, its confirmation of what people suspected
Fair enough. I think it’s just people dealing with it through venting etc. the fact that it’s split fan opinion is a pointer of how well he was regarded here. I’m sure many feel disappointed and let down by him and that’s coming out through anger. It’ll die down
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I think this is how I feel, always loved rashford, never wanted him sold, bought my kid a rashford shirt for Christmas this year… but lately, he seems totally disinterested, the being sick and then that stupid interview about wanting a new challenge, it feels like he’s proper shit on the club and fans at a time when it’s really not needed for a new manager to deal with.
My feelings towards him have soured and I hope he’s sold for the first time since he’s broke through.
It was so obvious he’s an arsehole. He’s not even trying to hide it anymore and the club have finally given up on trying to protect him and pander to him. Fair enough. Let’s move on. It’ll be great to be free of this constant emotional blackmail PR. It’s so crass and cringeworthy when the lad clearly couldn’t care less about the fans. I feel bad for all the decent and intelligent people on here who made fools out of themselves defending his half arsed game for years.
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I don't really see a split in fan opinion. I see either Amorim has the right to drop anyone he wants and hopefully it gets a reaction or he can move on, and I see people reading every one of the 5 media articles about it every day and coming in here to reiterate they that always knew he was a scumbag and that they never want to see him again.
Christ. What have you got so far from your sources?
Oh I agree people are taking this as a confirmation of anything they have ever thought.
Still under investigation. We wouldn’t like to comment for fear of disrupting the process.
I can't stand (most) journalists. So apparently Mitten knew for years but now that Rashford is almost certainly out the door it is the right timing to finaly reveal it and tear down his character?
Granted, maybe he gave his word to be quiet or something but still he's a vulture who omitted the "truth".. a good journalist should be the opposite of that.
I never take a journalists word without thinking for myself. Unlike a poster on a forum (who might have strong opinions) they actually do have an agenda, it's their job.
Granted, maybe he gave his word to be quiet or something but still he's a vulture who omitted the "truth".. a good journalist should be the opposite of that.
I never take a journalists word without thinking for myself. Unlike a poster on a forum (who might have strong opinions) they actually do have an agenda, it's their job.
Where have you made this up from? Why has Mitten ‘sold’ himself to INEOS for interviews? Because he interviewed Sir Jim? Are you aware of what journalists do for work?
There was a poll on here where 85% wanted rid at one point before his new contract. I think we'll struggle to get rid now for any kind of fee.
Like nearly every other decision around recruitment/contracts in the last 10 years, they have squandered millions by giving him what he wanted.
Like nearly every other decision around recruitment/contracts in the last 10 years, they have squandered millions by giving him what he wanted.
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