Marcus Rashford (out)

hobbers said:
1. He's wildly deluded. And 2. the people around him are all feeding that delusion. Non-United pundits also all queue up desperately peddling this faux-victim narrative in the media.

The second highest paid player in the most followed club in the world. Top 5 highest paid player in the most followed league in the world. Multiple instances of poor discipline / publicly caught lying to his club about illness / zero work rate and awful body language every game. No shit you'll get more scrutiny than other players who get paid a fraction and go out and do their jobs.
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He does have a point to be fair. Not to say he doesn't have any agency behind it.

If you go back to Rooney for example, he was clearly lacking in professionalism and rarely did that ever come into criticism of his character or commitment.

Or look at Jack Grealish today, no goals in a year for £100m player. Clearly likes a drink, drink driving during lock down and gets zero criticism.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
He does now but he previously had one of the very best in Kelly Hogarth. She had longstanding links with FareShare. Ditto relationships with Macmillan Books, NatWest and others.

With her, Rashford was legitimately the most marketable athlete in the UK. She didn't just build his profile--she created it. Literally changed the game in our industry for multiple years, to the point that everyone was trying to hit that delicate social justice/branding balance with their clients. She rightly won PR Week's Campaign of the Decade, creating such an apparently believable persona that even things that look silly in hindsight somehow worked (posting motivational tweets to kids literally 20 minutes after we played City, this infamous tweet, having an opinion on just about every trending event at the time, even very tricky topics like this (tw: Sarah Everard) all while sounding suspiciously like a comms person... the list goes on but it all worked)

He split with Kelly Hogarth a couple of years ago, apparently acrimoniously. She started her own agency, meanwhile Rashford has cycled through 5 or 6 different agencies at rapid pace trying to replicate that lightning in a bottle he had from 2020-2022. Currently he's with Caroline McAteer, which is a bit like going from Pep to Sam Allardyce.
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That’s one of the more interesting posts you’ll see on here. Makes a lot of sense.
 
Eugenius said:
He does have a point to be fair. Not to say he doesn't have any agency behind it.

If you go back to Rooney for example, he was clearly lacking in professionalism and rarely did that ever come into criticism of his character or commitment.

Or look at Jack Grealish today, no goals in a year for £100m player. Clearly likes a drink, drink driving during lock down and gets zero criticism.
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Ding ding
 
duffer said:
I guarantee he'll score today.
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Rashford receives the ball in open space. My God Liverpool have overcomitted too much going forward. Rashford has gone, Gazel like speed rushing towards the Liverpool goal. Alexander-Arnold tries to intercept but Rashford has gone in front of him.

Hojlund is seen sprinting head first but Rashy only has eyes on goal. He takes one deadly look at the goalkeeper, Kop end in complete silence, strikes the ball, and Oh My God WHAT A FINISH.
Rashy rushes towards the corner flag, stops, takes one look at the liverpool fans and points his finger to his head. THAT IS HOW YOU SILENCE YOUR CRITICS.

Kop end still in complete shock and disbelief. Alisson (or whoever their keeper is) begrudgingly takes the ball out of the net, as the score now reads Liverpool 5 - Man Utd 1 in the 77th minute.
 
Marcus has really just given media the license to relentlessly grill the manager, week after week, like on more pressure on an already beleaguered team with that stupid bloody interview.

Shows an incredibly lack of maturity. Especially since it came off the back of the win vs City.
 
Slevs said:
Rashford receives the ball in open space. My God Liverpool have overcomitted too much going forward. Rashford has gone, Gazel like speed rushing towards the Liverpool goal. Alexander-Arnold tries to intercept but Rashford has gone in front of him.

Hojlund is seen sprinting head first but Rashy only has eyes on goal. He takes one deadly look at the goalkeeper, Kop end in complete silence, strikes the ball, and Oh My God he's hit the roof and it's now leaking again! What a miss!


Kop end still in complete shock and disbelief. Alisson (or whoever their keeper is) begrudgingly takes the ball out of the net, as the score still reads Liverpool 5 - Man Utd 0 in the 48th minute.
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FTFY.
 
Eugenius said:
He does have a point to be fair. Not to say he doesn't have any agency behind it.

If you go back to Rooney for example, he was clearly lacking in professionalism and rarely did that ever come into criticism of his character or commitment.

Or look at Jack Grealish today, no goals in a year for £100m player. Clearly likes a drink, drink driving during lock down and gets zero criticism.
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No he doesn't.

Rooney is the clubs top scorer and was key to winning 3 league titles in a row and the CL. He was still hounded for contract gate and some of his other antics, luckily for him that was pre-social media.

Grealish has won 3 PL titles with City and the treble, and they have a fraction of the number of fans and coverage United have to generate noise during the bad times. And the one negative incident in the press during lockdown does not come close to all the shit Rashford has pulled.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
He does now but he previously had one of the very best in Kelly Hogarth. She had longstanding links with FareShare. Ditto relationships with Macmillan Books, NatWest and others.

With her, Rashford was legitimately the most marketable athlete in the UK. She didn't just build his profile--she created it. Literally changed the game in our industry for multiple years, to the point that everyone was trying to hit that delicate social justice/branding balance with their clients. She rightly won PR Week's Campaign of the Decade, creating such an apparently believable persona that even things that look silly in hindsight somehow worked (posting motivational tweets to kids literally 20 minutes after we played City, this infamous tweet, having an opinion on just about every trending event at the time, even very tricky topics like this (tw: Sarah Everard) all while sounding suspiciously like a comms person... the list goes on but it all worked)

He split with Kelly Hogarth a couple of years ago, apparently acrimoniously. She started her own agency, meanwhile Rashford has cycled through 5 or 6 different agencies at rapid pace trying to replicate that lightning in a bottle he had from 2020-2022. Currently he's with Caroline McAteer, which is a bit like going from Pep to Sam Allardyce.
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Thanks for this post, have tried to share similar in the past.

It’s absurd re-reading those tweets and recalling that everyone (myself included) took at face value that they were by Rashford himself.

The verbose tweets to MPs in particular are actually hilarious to contrast to the lad who goes out on the piss and pulls a sicky to skip training, then has his brothers brief that he’s being treated unfairly.

I put it down to lockdown madness, I think we all just needed a hero at that point and Marcus seemed like the perfect one.

Even though it’s benefited him in terms of helping him be the star he is today (with the associated income) I can’t help but feel he has been massively exploited, with his race and social background both being taken advantage of for the benefit of a cynical PR machine. At such a young age as well, he was only 22 or something during the first lockdown.

Just out of interest what was the “infamous tweet”? The link is broken.
 
David Ornstein on NBC just claimed that there were no offers from Saudi Arabia.
 
Hopefully move to Milan or Napoli will materialize even if we have to pay part wages. A move would be good for all parties involved.

If it's a loan with obligation to buy, does that free up money in January or July 1st when the obligation becomes a permanent sale?

Are more funds freed up with a sale of a homegrown player?
 
Eugenius said:
He does have a point to be fair. Not to say he doesn't have any agency behind it.

If you go back to Rooney for example, he was clearly lacking in professionalism and rarely did that ever come into criticism of his character or commitment.

Or look at Jack Grealish today, no goals in a year for £100m player. Clearly likes a drink, drink driving during lock down and gets zero criticism.
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umm Rooney got more flak than Rash but in fairness he was 10x the player
 
gulli_G said:
He had the media attention with the school lunch campaign. Had that good season. Built up a good reputation. And now has completely ruined it, even his most ardent supporters are looking beyond the local lad narrative and seeing for what he is.

He or his team think he is bigger than any manager or the club and it has finally backfired.
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That pointed to the head celebration,.which I didn't like at the time, looks more and more ridiculous and ill-advised as time goes on and he's shown that mentality is not one of his strengths.
 
djd said:
David Ornstein on NBC just claimed that there were no offers from Saudi Arabia.
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As suspected. It's about time the lazy journalism and fan belief that Saudi will throw money at any old thing. They're not stupid, they now want players who could be consider some of the best in world football. Rashford obviously doesn't tick that box.

Due to the ridiculous contract we gave him, we're going to have to take a big loss in order to get him off the books.
 
Withnail said:
That pointed to the head celebration,.which I didn't like at the time, looks more and more ridiculous and ill-advised as time goes on and he's shown that mentality is not one of his strengths.
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Definitely not, it's funny he doesn't realise :lol:
 
van Nistelrooy said:
As suspected. It's about time the lazy journalism and fan belief that Saudi will throw money at any old thing. They're not stupid, they now want players who could be consider some of the best in world football. Rashford obviously doesn't tick that box.

Due to the ridiculous contract we gave him, we're going to have to take a big loss in order to get him off the books.
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Salary aside the current Rashford is not very good. His lack of commitment made the team unbalanced and left a gaping hole where he plays. Take the Newcastle clip on YT where he let everyone pass him by all matches.

I dont think a fully functioning team would want him even for free and 0 wages. He's a detractors to the sum of the whole part. It's like playing with 10 against 12 with his predictability they can virtually left him alone and gang up somewhere else

And it's not like he scoring at the rate of Messi.
 
djd said:
David Ornstein on NBC just claimed that there were no offers from Saudi Arabia.
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Not sure how true but apparently he also said, if a reasonable offer from Saudi was made to Rashford, he would accept a move.

Sure someone could fill in the blanks, or confirm if he actually said it.
 
soapythecat said:
I honestly don’t get how Rashford has so much backing amongst United fans. I get he’s a local lad, but surely if United meant so much to him he’d act more professional and make more of an effort. He has looked disinterested and lacklustre for years and continues to get huge support. If a Brazilian or Argentinian player put as little drive and effort into his game as Rashford, he’d be driven from the club by the fans.
Rashford cares not one bit about United and the fans anymore, it’s all about his personal wealth and standing.
He needs to go for the better do the club and to move forward. I’m sick of him and his PR spin that comes with every night out and poor performance. feck off.
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Just because you care about something doesn't automatically mean things work out or that you make enough effort all the time. That's why relationships fail all the time.
 
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