Marcus Rashford (out)

eiknaldo said:
So the tweet basically only points out rumours. The first occasion before the Everton game wasn't true according to Rashford and the 2nd occasion before the last training session against City was also denied by people close to the player.

Why is everyone acting like the rumours are true without any real evidence?
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There have been incidents like this in the past which have proven to be true, but started as rumour.

The more things keep being proven true the more likely that things like this are true. You also can take in to account his demeanor on the pitch, the way he acts like he doesn't really care and how the management team are seemingly cracking down on it, as well as his response.

All that points to a player who is ill disciplined, with very little drive to change who is costing the club and awful lot of money. It also makes him look like someone who is not fully committed to his role as a professional athlete.

Take off the blinkers.
 
VP89 said:
Thats what a £300, 000 + contract gets you - more scrutiny than the average. No sympathy here.
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Yeah maybe if he performed well like other premier league players then there would be no scrutiny
 
Salford_Red83 said:
There have been incidents like this in the past which have proven to be true, but started as rumour.

The more things keep being proven true the more likely that things like this are true. You also can take in to account his demeanor on the pitch, the way he acts like he doesn't really care and how the management team are seemingly cracking down on it, as well as his response.

All that points to a player who is ill disciplined, with very little drive to change who is costing the club and awful lot of money. It also makes him look like someone who is not fully committed to his role as a professional athlete.

Take off the blinkers.
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"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again" ~ George W. Bush
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eiknaldo said:
So the tweet basically only points out rumours. The first occasion before the Everton game wasn't true according to Rashford and the 2nd occasion before the last training session against City was also denied by people close to the player.

Why is everyone acting like the rumours are true without any real evidence?
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It's from an article in the Athletic by Lawrie Whitwell and will have been well sourced.

The following is from the article before he goes on to speak about the part quoted in the tweet.

The Athletic has spoken to multiple sources with knowledge of Rashford’s situation, who did so anonymously to protect relationships, to understand how a player with the best scoring record in United’s squad...can be left out during a crucial period of the season.
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It’s such a terrible way of looking at life. Other players go clubbing close to games. Elite players don’t think like that.
 
eiknaldo said:
So the tweet basically only points out rumours. The first occasion before the Everton game wasn't true according to Rashford and the 2nd occasion before the last training session against City was also denied by people close to the player.

Why is everyone acting like the rumours are true without any real evidence?
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If you live in the right areas of Manchester you'll likely have heard first hand stories. No need for the newspapers.
 
Adisa said:
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I agree he absolutely does, he also plays for the biggest club, with the most social media engagement and normal media in the country and has a rather large contract that he’s not currently performing at the level expected to be worth it.

If this is how he feels and cannot handle the pressure then it’s sad, but for the best that he moves onto somewhere with less scrutiny.

The culture and media around United isn’t ever changing.
 
His hideous PR machinery steam rolling at the moment. But hopefully they won't make any difference this time.
 
Hopefully we can sell Marcus by the second week of January and get a good wing back in with the money.

Ideally we have a settled back 5 and midfield so in the summer we can focus on attack and a midfielder (once Casemiro and Eriksen leave).

I don't really expect Marcus or want Marcus to stay, I haven't for four years but at this point there's no way back for him.

Too many excuses, too much going to the press to talk versus put it on the pitch. Liverpool doesn't do that, City players don't. We have so many players that are just not professional at United.

Get rid.
 
Paul778 said:
... and rather than silencing any critics by working hard in training and on the pitch it seems his main activity is to instruct his PR firm to paint him as a victim paid 350k a week.
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I'm getting the impression he isn't doing any instructing, he's just living in his own hyped-up little world while others (his brother?) pull the strings on Brand Rashford. If he genuinely believed his post last week about agencies it seems that he has very little clue about what his team are doing.
 
eiknaldo said:
So the tweet basically only points out rumours. The first occasion before the Everton game wasn't true according to Rashford and the 2nd occasion before the last training session against City was also denied by people close to the player.

Why is everyone acting like the rumours are true without any real evidence?
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I’ll believe the manager for taking him out of the team first of all then the article was a piece by whitwell who is rarely wrong.

You don’t go from regularly scoring 20 a season to scoring 5, 8 and whatever he ends up with this year. If he performed on the pitch I couldn’t give 2 fecks if he went out drinking 5 times a week but the fact is he’s been shite and he’s getting called out finally
 
There is literally only one possible piece of PR I would accept and credit him with and that’s if Amorim said “Marcus is back in the team because he’s got his head down, worked incredibly hard, raised his fitness levels and has shown to me he is serious about his career by refraining from nights out during the season”


In contrast to that sort of praise, I find this “Marcus doesn’t understand why he’s being picked on” bullshit to be utterly utterly pathetic and insulting to our intelligence. Does he really think we can’t see what a bone idle, sullen prick he is on the field?
 
Rashford scores a tap in: media and his fans applaud him as the second coming of Jesus.

Rashford plays shit for 18 months: "I am being treated unfairly harsh".
 
Adisa said:
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He’s approaching this in totally the wrong way. As a professional footballer he needs to ask himself is it professional behaviour not be all “but x is allowed to do it at his club”. No Marcus that’s up to their clubs to sort out. Your behaviour is up to you to control. Grow up.

Before long he’s going to find walking the George best path, where going out is more important than football
 
What's amusing is that the claim is not that he's not behaving unprofessionally , rather it's that other players in the league get away with similar things. Which is an argument I used to present to my parents when I was 9.

Tbf night clubs were better back then.
 
The Firestarter said:
What's amusing is that the claim is not that he's not behaving unprofessionally , rather it's that other players in the league get away with similar things. Which is an argument I used to present to my parents when I was 9.

Tbf night clubs were better back then.
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Yes I was thinking the same. It’s such a childish immature response. Open your eyes Marcus before it’s too late.
 
golden_blunder said:
He’s approaching this in totally the wrong way. As a professional footballer he needs to ask himself is it professional behaviour not be all “but x is allowed to do it at his club”. No Marcus that’s up to their clubs to sort out. Your behaviour is up to you to control. Grow up.

Before long he’s going to find walking the George best path, where going out is more important than football
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I’m glad he’s done this to be honest. You can’t sell a player that’s always on the piss. As least his team are doing their best to retain some value in him.
 
I’d love to know how many times over the years he’s secretly gone out and got away with it. He’s up there with Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs in the early 90s, constantly out and about. Except there’s no Ferguson to turn up one night and give them the bollocking of a lifetime, to the point they never do it again.

I still think this man is going to retire by 30. He’s become too enamoured with being a playboy and due to lack of quality leadership at United, he’s become way too comfortable to the point he genuinely thinks he’s the victim here. The Glazers, Woodward and their yes men saw him as a cash cow at one of our low points (because local lad from academy achieving the dream etc etc) and with no-one on the footballing side to really challenge them, he’s achieved a status at United that he really shouldn’t have reached, based on his overall footballing ability and from what we’ve seen more recently, his personality.
 
golden_blunder said:
He’s approaching this in totally the wrong way. As a professional footballer he needs to ask himself is it professional behaviour not be all “but x is allowed to do it at his club”. No Marcus that’s up to their clubs to sort out. Your behaviour is up to you to control. Grow up.

Before long he’s going to find walking the George best path, where going out is more important than football
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Think its got to the point he is wrapped up in being rich and famous. The first footballer to do all his talking off the pitch. (Through someone else)
 
This PR tit for tat is cringe, who is he trying to convince?

He's going down the Ronaldo route. Glad Amorim is not taking any of his nonsense.
 
It’s not only that he is below average on the pitch, he also acts as a victim when he is not selected.

It has been going on for a long time. It’s a real shame he never lived up to expectations. He seems to have lost interest in football, he is uninterested, he looks annoying on the pitch (sorry but he really does), he seems to have no emotions when playing, goes jogging around and never tracks back, can’t dribble well (a lot of times he just dribbles into defenders as if he hopes they vanish), he doesn’t score enough… what does he do. I hate that it has come to this, but it’s time he goes. He can not outlive another manager
 
Adisa said:
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He surely has the dumbest PR guys ever. Time after time they come out with something they obviously think will help the situation but everyone else sees it the other way round.
All this shite in the media is exactly why he should be fecked off ASAP even if it's for £5m.
He shouldn't ever put the shirt on again.
 
spwd said:
He surely has the dumbest PR guys ever. Time after time they come out with something they obviously think will help the situation but everyone else sees it the other way round.
All this shite in the media is exactly why he should be fecked off ASAP even if it's for £5m.
He shouldn't ever put the shirt on again.
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Thats the stupid thing. This PR career is excruciatingly bad, and has simply turned people against him
 
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