I wonder if Mejbri can be this player? He has looked really good out there recently for the 23's. I assume in time he will probably transition to a more central role for us, but I think he could offer a lot out there as a Rashford alternative. This then would obviously allow us to strengthen other holes in the squad such as centre back, a dedicated defensive midfield player/deep lying playmaker, potentially a right back who could compete with Wan Bissaka if the club deem Williams/Laird/Dalot not ready enough or good enough yet. Goalkeeper and striker too could be an issue in the next year or too, but I imagine we will persist with our current options for now.
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I wouldn't swap Marcus Rashford for any player in the world right now.
The "Martial vs Rashford" debate is getting boring. Neither is a wide player so I'd sell one (Martial most likely) so that we could get a hard working, nifty winger, and play the second one as forward.
Watching Rashford against packed defenses is hurting my eyes, but he's more effective against high line (some good runs) and I have faith in him to improve his finishing. But at this point both are too lazy to be on the pitch at the same time.
Watching Rashford against packed defenses is hurting my eyes, but he's more effective against high line (some good runs) and I have faith in him to improve his finishing. But at this point both are too lazy to be on the pitch at the same time.
Those stats don’t tell the true story and flatter to deceive.
6 of those goals were in the CL, one a penalty and 3 of them in one game against Leipzig, which was brilliant.
In the league he’s scored 8, but 5 of those were in December, with only 3 goals in the rest of this season.
He’s scored 1 goal in the last league 8 games, since Jan 1st.
Even in games where Rashford has scored a goal, or proved an assist, he’s been rubbish for 70 or 80% of those same games..
It’s more than the goals though. His overall poor contribution and lack of effort is holding the team back. It’s like playing with 10 men half the time. The stats are just papering over the cracks.
Mejbri could be that player in the short to mid term and is a serious talent in the same bracket as Rayan Cherki and Naci Unuvar who are both exceptional players in their own right. But until we see him get minutes in the first team it's difficult to say for sure due to the huge jump in quality both physically and technically from the 23s to the first team.
Rashford scored in 4 out of 6 CL games he played, that's a brilliant record for any player, including winner vs PSG, goal to put the game to bed vs Leipzig.
He has started 22 league games, scored or assisted in 13 games. That's again a very good record and most of the goals and assists are game changing ones.
In the FA cup, he has started 2 games and scored/assisted in 2 games.
His output is not a problem, his overall game isn't as good as it was and his work rate has declined a lot.
"Stats don't tell the true story" is just wrong. It says what it's supposed to tell, that which player has how many goals and assists. It's not as if all of his goals came in few games, he has made impact in most of the games.
Even when his overall game is not up to the standards, he gets into lot of good positions as he makes so many runs. He has Non penalty xG of 7.38, highest in the league is Sterling with 7.53. Which shows how much Rashford's off the ball game has improved. Now if he can sort out his finishing, we will be in awesome position. That's the next step for him in his career.
I think you've missed his point!
You wouldn't swap him for any player? Seriously? You Sir, are the ultimate 'fanboy' congrats
I'm just really not enjoying watching him at the moment. Credit too him he is still producing some moments but his overall performances are pretty poor and are actively detracting from the wider team performance.
It's hilarious when people call Ronaldo just a finisher. He still is a top dribbler
He reminds me of Nani in the way he frustrates then gets a goal or assist.
Or maybe Rooney latter years.
He should have scored that chance that came to him. I would like to see him rested though. Hopefully we get an easy FA cup draw (LOL) and he can miss that game.
Or we somehow get a great Europa League first leg scoreline and can rest for the second leg.
Or maybe Rooney latter years.
He should have scored that chance that came to him. I would like to see him rested though. Hopefully we get an easy FA cup draw (LOL) and he can miss that game.
Or we somehow get a great Europa League first leg scoreline and can rest for the second leg.
You've gotta to be joking.
Who would you swap him for?
Mbappe? Yes, he'd do well in the Prem League but would be off to Spain or looking for some other move in about 4 years time?
Haaland? Same.
We literally have a world class youngster who is a Manchester United fan who has the ability, attitude and determination to go on and be one of the best players in the world, but - more importantly - who would give us 15 years of his life; his entire football career.
Though talking in fifteen year cycles is waaaaaay too much open-mindendess for some at RedCaf. Most of y'all can't look past the last game, let alone in to the future.
Imagine wanting to swap Rashford for Mbappe? It's as if you don't even know what the club you proclaim to support stands for.
Rashford can be another Giggs.
Mpabbe can come in and be Ronaldo...
Big difference between what Giggs brought to our club compared to what Ronaldo did. Fifteen years to be exact.
Giggs, Mbappe and Ronaldo ? Why are you even talking about them ? It seems like you've already seen the future and have made up a very strong opinion that I however find very funny. Rashford is very perfectible and he could have the biggest drive ever, it doesn't mean he will reach his potential.
I think his bad form gets overplayed and sweeps under the rug his good form. You look at his recent run of games, let's pick his past 6 games (2 goals, 3 assists).
- West Ham - Poor
- Everton - very good (imo)
- Southampton - excellent
- Arsenal - don't even remember anyone's individual performance here
- Sheffield - poor
- Liverpool (fa cup) - excellent
What do you mean by 'reach his potential?'
He literally has more goals and assists than Ryan Gigs at the same age. Than Ronaldo at the same age. Than Rooney at the same age. Then ANY of the hundreds of academy graduates we have ever brought through our football club had at the same age, be teh name Charlton, Best, Whiteside, Edwards, Giggs or Scholes ...
The kid is fecking awesome.
I swear, if you think Rashford is an inconsistent player, then I would have loving to have got your opinion on Giggs when he was the same age. In 1995, you'd probably have wanted to swap Ryan Giggs for Thomas Brolin. Denying us our greatest and most loyal player in our entire history.
You don't judge football week-to-week, my friend. You need to have a much bigger vision and more open mind than that. I bet if you met Sir Alex Ferguson in the street and you told him you'd swap Marcus Rashford for Mbappe, he would laugh at you while shaking his head, then he'd say 'deary, deary me, son.'
I get the principle, but I couldnt put up with 15 years of THIS Rashford. He may never get better. I'd take my chance on 4 years of being world class and winning the lot like we did with Ronaldo and figure out the next step after that. For the moment, I think he needs to be challenged. There's room for improvement, how much remains to be seen.
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You assume a lot of things about how I view Rashford. Get off your high horse would you please
Comparing Giggs and Rashford in terms of goals is incredibly stupid when you fully know Giggs' game was different and how football played back then didn't require him to be scoring goals as regularly as Rashford has to do right now. The fact you even go there is fecking crazy to me. Now you're even talking for SAF, that's just great
Most of these arguments are moot. In his good patches, everything works, or almost. The dummies, the stepovers, the ambitious passes, the attempts on goal. That's not the case at the moment. He's still managing to dig out the odd goal or assist but most of what he's trying is failing at the moment. That's coinciding with Martial in a nightmare moment and Mason working hard to rediscover some form, so everything is magnified. He's great. The stuff we love about him in the good days is the stuff that looks worst when it doesn't come off. I'm prepared to be patient. He'll get there.
Rashford does track back because I've seen him at left back quite a fair few times and he does his fair share of running. The issue is that he doesn't seem to get stuck in, either in pressing the oppo or making a tackle. It's makes his off the ball defensive work really quite pointless. What's the point of tracking back when you are not gonna make a tackle or a block?
He has his moments of brilliance, but I think he looks off and lacks energy in his games lately, except for a couple of sprints with the ball where he ends up losing it running straight into a defender. Doesn't smile, shout or show any engagement in the games, like he just doesn't care. Him and Martial really needs to work on this, because it is sucking the life out of their teammates and fans.
He's TRASH!!!
He will always be a frustrating player but will always be involved in goals just like Bruno. They have been our most key players for winning games but also the most irritating. For those reasons they must play. When they don't we look kinda dead and lack something
He will always be a frustrating player but will always be involved in goals just like Bruno. They have been our most key players for winning games but also the most irritating. For those reasons they must play. When they don't we look kinda dead and lack something
This is so funny! Comparing swapping Giggs for a 26 year old Swede with a goalratio of 1 goal per 500 minutes (He did have a good WC '94, but still) with swapping Rashford for ANYONE.
I guess you're Swedish, because '95 Brolin is not the equivalent to '21 anyone for anyone but a 40+ Swede.
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To me he's just looking like a player whose head is no longer in it.
He's supremely talented, so he gets in the right places at times and does the right things.
But he's not as obsessed with improvement as he once was. Hell, he hardly looks like he wants to even put in a shift on the pitch anymore.
Doesn't really celebrate, and actually looks as stone faced as Martial 100% of the time these days. We know that's normal for Martial. It's never been normal for Rashford, who adores his boyhood club.
To be honest, he seems to be stagnating. Stuck at his level.
We know what he looks like when he's actually playing his heart out, against Liverpool and before his injury last season. But most of the time he just looks like he isn't really focused anymore.
He's supremely talented, so he gets in the right places at times and does the right things.
But he's not as obsessed with improvement as he once was. Hell, he hardly looks like he wants to even put in a shift on the pitch anymore.
Doesn't really celebrate, and actually looks as stone faced as Martial 100% of the time these days. We know that's normal for Martial. It's never been normal for Rashford, who adores his boyhood club.
To be honest, he seems to be stagnating. Stuck at his level.
We know what he looks like when he's actually playing his heart out, against Liverpool and before his injury last season. But most of the time he just looks like he isn't really focused anymore.
Great.
Do you - honestly - not have a problem with the fact he usually leaves the ball with those same 3/4 defenders?
I think you will struggle to find players who are super efficient as wingers. Also do you have a problem if he is frustrating and getting loads of goals and assists?
GoldTrafford99 is correct. A little over enthusiastic, but he's right. The level that Rashford has reached is terrific. He is still frustrating and his decision making does leave a lot to be desired at times, but I feel as if he's well on his way to becoming a legend here. His productivity in the last 18 months has come on leaps and bounds, he has been a big game player for us and is second only to Bruno I'd say in terms of influence for us. The kid is 23 years old. Honestly, he really is comparable with the likes of Sterling, Mane and Son. I find Sterling in particular to be a very erratic player despite his productivity, but I digress.
Anyway we should voice our frustrations at times, but mainly we should enjoy him. Simply, he's one of us. Our rivals would love to have him as one of their own.
Anyway we should voice our frustrations at times, but mainly we should enjoy him. Simply, he's one of us. Our rivals would love to have him as one of their own.
If he's "TRASH" who do you actually rate out of are squad? Noticed you've lumped Bruno in there with him so I take it you don't rate him either?
Why does he stay on the floor for 30 seconds whenever a defender goes to ground regardless of if it's a foul or not? I don't recall him ever getting straight up from a challenge and there's no way you're telling me he's hurt every single time it happens.
Its satire
He runs into the defenders when he gets one of his Messi brainfarts and tries to take on the whole defence. Does this make sense to you ?
Yep, I thought this was quite noticeable but must admit I have seen less of this happening when no crowds are allowed in stadiums.
There used to be many "injuries" excuse and how it affected his game, thank god I haven't seen those popped up in while
I bet if you met Sir Alex Ferguson in the street and you told him you'd swap Marcus Rashford for Mbappe, he would laugh at you while shaking his head, then he'd say 'deary, deary me, son.'
No but he would have swapped him for Bebe.
No but he would have swapped him for Bebe.
It somehow happens at least twice a match too - usually for the most innocuous of challenges. He got slapped on the shoulder recently while 'challenging' for a header (ie other man jumped, he didn't, caught him with his hand on the way down)...and he limped. He got hit in the shoulder and he limped around for 30 seconds. As you say, he's clearly not hurt. Just seems to be a weird habit he's got into and it couples up well with his general disengagement during games nowadays.
It's like he's always trying to score goal of the season. He beats one player with a nice piece of skill. Then tries to beat another two players and gives the ball away when he should be passing it. This happens 3-4 times each game, and it's so predictable and frustrating. He doesn't create nearly enough for other players.
This is so funny! Comparing swapping Giggs for a 26 year old Swede with a goalratio of 1 goal per 500 minutes (He did have a good WC '94, but still) with swapping Rashford for ANYONE.
I guess you're Swedish, because '95 Brolin is not the equivalent to '21 anyone for anyone but a 40+ Swede.
Brolin was the biggest signing in world football in 1995, my man.
And, seeing as you clearly aren't getting my point.. this is EXACTLY what I mean. You can but the best players in teh world, but it don't mean they'll work out for you. Brolin in 1995 beingmy example.
But that went over your head.
He does look like he isn’t enjoying his football this season. But can you blame him?
No fans means there’s never any atmosphere at game, he’s going through the same lockdown grind that’s making everyone miserable, then spends his evenings immersed in social media trying to help hungry kids, getting abused by arseholes.
He’s obviously a more thoughtful footballer than most. I wouldn’t be surprised if his head is not in a good place at all. Being a footballer is supposed to be fun but I doubt it feels like that for him right now.
Other than the social media bit (and frankly I'd be surprised if he spends anything but a short period of time on it helping kids), you've just described all footballers though
The thing is, he has been poor, but at the same time if you asked everybody here before the season starts, that Rashford in February would have 16 goals and 11 assists (including 6 goals in 6 CL games, no matter how that ended), I think most people would take that. So if anything, it bodes well for Marcus IMO that despite his poor decision-making and lack of success in his take-ons, he's still coming out with a solid output, even if it has slowed down recently.
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