10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 56
- Goals
- 30
- Assists
- 9
- Yellow cards
- 2
- Status
Interesting comparison to RVP's 12/13 season. RVP had that really bizarre period at one point where he was stuck on 23 goals (i think) before finishing on 30. I can't remember how many assists he had but that was a terrific season. Ibra would have easily got 30 goals in 16/17 but for the injury but I think Rashford has had a better season of performances overall than he had.
At this rate you'd fancy Rashford to get 30-35 goals overall
At this rate you'd fancy Rashford to get 30-35 goals overall
19/20 he was brilliant, ended with 22 goals.. 20/21 he played through constant injuries, had some great games and some shit games, still got 21 goals and double digit assists ultimately. Ronaldo comes in (a player who very obviously was going to clash with Rashford in the spaces he plays in), Rashford again starts the season off with a shoulder surgery... and then has a shit season in a garbage disaster team.
People who gave up on Rashford were 100% knee jerk, using him as a target for the whole team being a disaster, not looking at the bigger picture, having 0 perspective, etc. He just turned 25 ffs. People thought 1 bad season in a disaster year was more representative than his previous 2 seasons, when he was just a young player growing the whole time. This season absolutely does show up that people were being ridiculous and knee jerk in giving up on him and wanting him sold. He's a home grown kid, a great guy off the pitch (which is so so rare to see in this era), and he's a fecking fantastic player too.
Yea you're being too nitpicky. If Rashford missed the shot you can then say he should have passed but since he buried it, it's a moot point
Monster performance today.
Saka has been class but I think the top 3 would be Odegaard, Rashford and Haaland. Haaland to be honest is a weird one. He is obviously a crazy goalscorer. But I really do think he doesn't benefit the team quite as much as what his goals would suggest. He's a pure poacher who yes scores a stupid amount of goals, but a team like City would score a lot of goals regardless, and they lose some things with him in. If we're looking for the most impactful players, the best players who made the biggest differences to their teams... I wouldn't have Haaland top 5. I'd have Odegaard, Saka, Rashford, Casemiro as a for sure 4. Not sure who else really.
He's had a 20 goal and 13 assist season just two years ago in a completely dysfunctional team and he's only 25.
Ronaldo was the biggest issue. Everything became about him and all the chances had to go his way. We play so much better without him. But because he scored 21 goals everyone was duped into thinking he was the solution when in fact we scored more goals as a team the two previous seasons before he returned to the club. Look at us now.
You got it badly wrong mate. Rashford is class.
Yeah, that would have been a beaut ! Megged the 2nd defender in the box.
Things like that for me puts him ahead of Haaland.
Haaland could score ten hat tricks before the end of the season but he’ll always lack that bit of dribbling and skill and finesse in his all round game.
This is what I can't understand when people say he had been awful for ages. It really was just one season.
That said his current form has surpassed my expectations.
Pretty much.
And to go back to my previous post I thought we played better with Cavani than we did with Ronaldo and so did Rashford too.
Doubt you could find a buyer
Hahahaha. So true.
He is up to 4th in most goals and assists for the season behind Haaland, Neymar and Mbappe
Yep. Haaland would have 15 more goals if he was the CF for us. He's nothing but a finisher.
So he'd have 41 goals this season so far in 22 appearances?
*24
Well no because he scored.
he explained his decision after. He looked up and was actually going to square it to garnacho, but saw the defender tracking him. he felt if he hit it, the keeper would of had to force a save and it would of potentially been a rebound for nacho. It’s good to see him thinking these things through, old rashford wouldn’t have.
Perhaps it’s recency bias but I think Rashford this season blows away Ibra in 2016-17.Interesting comparison to RVP's 12/13 season. RVP had that really bizarre period at one point where he was stuck on 23 goals (i think) before finishing on 30. I can't remember how many assists he had but that was a terrific season. Ibra would have easily got 30 goals in 16/17 but for the injury but I think Rashford has had a better season of performances overall than he had.
At this rate you'd fancy Rashford to get 30-35 goals overall
For us? 100%
I prefer him as a 9 now, since the World Cup both him and as a team we have looked better when he’s played through the middle.
The England front line up should:
..........Rashford.......
Grealish...Kane.....Saka
Kane playing the link man role he's so good at, while moving into the box once they're camped in the opposition half.
Here we go with this narrative again, it's as if you're giving him 0 credit for actually improving both physically and skills wise. This isn't "Rashy getting back to his best" it's a complete step up in finishing, final third decision making, ability on his weaker side, instincts in the box, as well as completely dominating physically specifically with his strength compared to past seasons.
Rashford even when he scored and assisted in previous years never looked close to this current player, the closest he got was pre-back injury in 19/20 when he was carrying the team. But after that and in 20/21 he wasn't the same player and was still an erratic finisher and at times one trick pony. And then last year his work rate fell off a cliff to add to him lacking in the more technical areas and it looked like he didn't care. It was a valid argument that it might be time to move him on, he wasn't dropped out of the England squad for 0 reason. His overall performance levels hadn't been the same since his back injury (which was over 2 years at the time), and the prior season his production and work rate fell off a cliff as well.
People act like he was always this good and it was idiotic to discuss moving on are completely re-writing history and letting their bias take over. Thank god for ETH, Benni, and the rest of the staff for getting him back on track and credit to him for transforming into a now world class player, but none of this was a given at the time.
Nah, if Southgate had balls it should have been Foden, Rashford, Saka front 3 interchanging with Bellingham unleashed behind them and Rice partnered with Henderson
So refreshing to see a United player having a world class season, it's been a while. Martial had a very good 19/20 season but didn't quite reach world class heights.
Dropping Kane would be insane
Although you're both sort of discussing about the same sides of the coin, I would argue Rashford has 'always' been this good. He's definitely improved of course and now has more years of experience compared to his peak of 19-20 but I'd argue his base qualities and fundamentals (of his current game now) were pre-existing; likewise, so are the things he can still improve on. The largest difference is the experience gained (mental side), the coach and tactical setup; all three massive things but the latter two not really within his control. Today, he is now given the ball in more advantageous situations, more consistently AND the team is playing to his strengths (vice versa). Whereas before, to over simplify it, he was a one-man wrecking ball all over the pitch with penetrative dribbling and assisting, a lot down to individual brilliance. He couldn't sustain that and whatever the reason (injury, coaching etc), still showed what his high level was.
That's a different and separate argument to 'does it look like he could reach those levels again after the injuries and horrific form of the last 12+ months?' and 'is it worth persisting considering our options etc?'.
I think it was completely valid for fans (myself included) to think 'it's just easier to move him on and reset with someone else' but I don't agree that 'he's showing a completely different level that we've never seen before' type stuff.
Go for goal. If the keeper manages to get a hand to it or any rebound off any part of his body, it likely falls to Garnacho anyway who would be staring at an open goal for the tap-in.
Pretty much any striker would have gone for the shot, especially one in good form
Yes he's confident to put away the chance. That's why he keeps pointing to his head haha. I'm sure its to signify that mentally he's in tune. Would love to know how Benni and Ten Hag have managed to bring out the monster we all knew Rashy had inside him.
And long may that Kaiju continue wrecking havoc on opposition defences.
Well I'm sure they've done something but he's getting older, more experienced and more mature naturally, TBH when you get to the top level a lot of it is down to what's between your ears as much as anything else
He said he was going to pass but then noticed a defender was on the inside of Garnacho so he decided to take the shot. So if the keeper did save it Garnacho (or him) would still have a chance for a tap in. Incredible awareness and decision making in like a blink of an eye I think.
didn't Garnacho miss from a similar position against Leeds? Rashord could have also fecked up the pass
I think in the form he's in with that level of confidence most strikers/forwards would go for the finish there
Yes the defender's position and where Garnacho was would've made the pass difficult but as you say its brillaint quick decsion making.
While you can say 20/21 was a 20 goal season, and technically you're right, 8 of those came in the europa league, only 11 in 37 in the Premier league which isn't a great return for the main goalscorer. I'm not disregarding the europa league, but this season he has 14 premier league goals already in 24 games, that's a different level
Yeah I forgot to add he said he decided to shoot at the far post so if the keeper push it away Garnacho would have a better chance for a tap in. That's why he didn't go near post. His brain must be like a core i7 for all that shit to go through like in half a second
When does a left wing forward become the main goalscorer (unless your name is Mbappe)? Therein lies the issue with your assessment i.e he was producing very good figures despite the circumstances and in a team that spread goals around but wasn't really coached well; there was a lot of attacking freedom but it was too much of a free for all at times.
He's on a different level production wise now because he's improved but also because he's our only reliable goalscorer on the pitch. He always had this level/potential. The question was whether he could reproduce it again.
A liquid cooled overclocked core i7 mind. Lad is in top form.Yeah I forgot to add he said he decided to shoot at the far post so if the keeper push it away Garnacho would have a better chance for a tap in. That's why he didn't go near post. His brain must be like a core i7 for all that shit to go through like in half a second
Would guess Fred is still on a Pentium 2.
I get what you're saying I just took a bit of umbrage with saying 20/21 was a 20 goal season, when almost half of that came in the europa league, which while not meaningless, its not the best judge, his pl tally wasn't as good as the previous season where he hit 17, or this year where he's already on 14, so people who said he declined for 2 years were accurate
Fred is Ryzen 9, but poorly optimized liquid cooling system. It has tendency to go blue screen of death 4-6 times in 90 minutes, but performed brilliantly when gaming.
The feck are you on about?
Nowhere am I claiming he was this good? He was a class player in his own right and this is normal progression on his previous years of progression - which was interrupted with some injury issues and a disaster year for the club. But his previous years were some pretty normal progression for a player at his age. Nobody is claiming he wasn't out of form, but perspective is very important and there were valid reasons for his loss of form. Which people on here were all too willing to ignore when people brought them up. 3 month recovery from surgery, come back into a disaster club? Nah. Boo Rashford, sell him. Makes sense.
And yes - it was idiotic to seriously suggest that he should leave. Saying he should leave for himself to rediscover something as United was a disaster club before Ten Hag is one thing. Saying he should leave because he is shite or never will be good enough or not good enough - now that was nonsense, idiotic, knee jerk, whatever you want to call it. I'll say it every time and stand by that. He was a young player who was progressing and had some injury problems that led to inconsistent performances while still being capable of a very high level. Last season was always irrelevant to look at. If you thought based on last season we should sell him, then I'm sorry, but that was a dumb as feck thought.
- Status