[reelworld]

Course not.

He's got us a result, as he's done most of the season. The assist was really good.

I just think the rest of his game was a bit up and down. But I pretty much always think thst of him.

He's the most impactful player in the world this season. The most cutting of cutting edges.

But a bit like Bruno his game can swing around a bit.

I don't think you can find an attacking player who can keep it up for 90 minutes bar Messi.
Attacking players by nature are risk takers, his game would look up and down because some of the risks he took were not coming off.
The comparison with Bruno is apt, and he's like that too.

 

[reelworld]

23 goals and 7 assists in 35 games.
Caf avg. rating this season for him: 6.3

This place

I was noticing this as well yesterday.
Caf rating is a harsh place

 

[DRJosh]

If he continues like this, he's a Ballon D'or contender for sure.

If he scores in the final and wins the Europa Cup then he stands a good chance.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

For me he is already on par with Cristiano's 08/09 season, also with a better attitude. If he keeps this up and deliver in the upcoming important games at the end of the season he could rival Cristiano's insane 07/08 season (his 06/07 season still untouchable due to the combination of excitement and goals). Never could have imagined this after him being so out of it for close to two years.

 

[V.O.]

23 goals and 7 assists in 35 games.
Caf avg. rating this season for him: 6.3

This place

It's just because he's been streaky. He had some very good games, but was mostly average from the summer until the World Cup, but has been absolutely shit hot since.

It's a lot easier to have a higher average rating if you're just a 7/10 almost every week like Varane or Martinez.

 

[Idxomer]

I was noticing this as well yesterday.
Caf rating is a harsh place

Any rating above 6 on the cafe means the player is having a very good season.

 

[BarstoolProphet]

If he scores in the final and wins the Europa Cup then he stands a good chance.

To be nominated high up, yeah, but Messi's name is already on that trophy. What Rashford got going for him is that he seems even more highly rated outside of the UK.

 

[Idxomer]

If he scores in the final and wins the Europa Cup then he stands a good chance.

Think he would be around 10-15.

The World Cup will be a big factor in the rankings, not just for Messi and the CL too of course.

 

[Irrational.]

I bet so Southgate feels like a mug right now after giving more minutes and starts to the likes of Mount, Foden, and Sterling at the World Cup.

Couldn’t be happier for him, seems he’s back to focusing on his football and he’s back to tearing opponents apart like he was in his debut season.

 

[Chief123]

Watch Southgate still start Mason fecking Mount over Rashford.

 

[ti vu]

23 goals and 7 assists in 35 games.
Caf avg. rating this season for him: 6.3

This place

The reason I never use this rating system.

This system favor 90 minute players with high level of involvement. Off the ball lung buster without the end product can go under the radar. It doesn't account for tactical advantage, disadvantage, opposition quality.

Anything over 6 is good with this rating system fyi.

 

[KjaAnd]

We are incredibly lucky to have him at the club. Manchester born. Academy player who came through the ranks. An absolute gem off the pitch. And a star on it. For me, he has easily been the biggest bright spot in the post-SAF era.

 

[zenith]

The reason I never use this rating system.

This system favor 90 minutes with highly involved players. It doesn't account for tactical advantage, disadvantage, opposition quality.

Anything over 6 is good with this rating system fyi.

Caf's judgement of players has been trashy since forever.

I just hope that some fans remember this performance and not judge him only on select performances where he was underwhelming. A local lad setting the world on fire. Fans should be proud and how

 

[Wheato]

Dunno why people keep doing this comparison with Haaland?

Rashford is not a centre forward. He plays the majority of his games on the left hand side of a front three, but can actually play left wing, right wing or down the middle.

He also plays as a provider of goals. And we will not see Haaland picking up the ball in his own half, bamboozling 2 defenders with trickery, then smashing the ball into the net. Haaland doesn't make goals from nothing, he's a finisher.

Now if we signed Victor Osimhen in the summer, you could start the comparison, but Rashford should be compared with players who are in the same position like Foden, Grealish or Martinelli.

 

[MUFC OK]

I think we need to calm a bit and remember he's not the top striker at world level and hasn't been ever. What I mean is the forwards he is supposed to be competing with score goals in the champions league along with the odd international campaign where they lead the charts. If we are being real Rashford has 12 league goals (there is a guy on 26) Europe League goals (Europe's minnow comp), and scored 2 in the world cup, and some cup games against the likes of Forest, Charlton, Burnley, Villa. I mean that's hardly world level now is it? Like other strikers have had to prove at much higher level before we called them world class or best in the world. Lets see him carry this form into the CL, become and important player for England before we start talking him up with the greats of the game. Reality is his resume and even current form is simply lower comp. He's my guy though and carrying our league campaign at the moment

What a terrible post.

Also, he scored 3 in the WC, in about 90 mins if football.. why does he need a clueless Southgate's seal of approval first?? Ridiculous statement.

I said he walks into any team in the world which on form, I stand by. Which club team doesn't start him in their front 3?

 

[Still ill]

Whatever, lads. I mean if it was Mbappé, Osimhen, Haaland, Sesko, whoever putting in that performance at the Nou Camp last night, we'd be drooling. Let's just enjoy it, eh?

 

[MUFC OK]

Whatever, lads. I mean if it was Mbappé, Osimhen, Haaland, Sesko, whoever putting in that performance at the Nou Camp last night, we'd be drooling. Let's just enjoy it, eh?

Completely agree. Amazing to see what a player he has become and genuinely see not reason why he doesn't keep this up now under ETH.

 

[Buster15]

Completely agree. Amazing to see what a player he has become and genuinely see not reason why he doesn't keep this up now under ETH.

He is a classic example of success breeding success. Whatever has been worked on, it has been transformational. And long may it continue because without Marcus Rashford, we would be struggling badly for the key ingredient for success; goals.

 

[eire-red]

Kind if reminded me of Mbappe's hat-trick in the CL against Barca a couple years back at the Nou Camp. Obviously Rashford isn't quite on that level yet, but he tore Barca apart in the second half and could have scored another goal or two if we had picked him out on a couple more occasions we were on the break.

There's not a more dangerous player in Europe at the minute when the game is stretched and he can play on the last shoulder. His play with his back to goal has improved so much too. I'd almost suggest this form has potentially caused a rethink for what we need in the summer for the CF position.

 

[Greyfog]

Why is he not getting the media recognition and hype like Mr Haaland? Man's on fire. Love to see it.

 

[Archi]

For me he is already on par with Cristiano's 08/09 season, also with a better attitude. If he keeps this up and deliver in the upcoming important games at the end of the season he could rival Cristiano's insane 07/08 season (his 06/07 season still untouchable due to the combination of excitement and goals). Never could have imagined this after him being so out of it for close to two years.

Wow. Rashford had been great but there's a looong way to go for him to come close to Cristiano 07/08

 

[Member 125398]

Why is he not getting the media recognition and hype like Mr Haaland? Man's on fire. Love to see it.

Glad he's not. Keeps the pressure off and the ego in check. Can't wait for him to get his first PL winners medal, whenever that may be.

 

[Raees]

Excellent, he was a menace all night when a couple of our other attackers offered very little. Is he too experienced for that to be a "coming of age" performance?

I don’t think it matters what age as long as the ‘click’ happens where you move on to that trajectory to the next level. Some players blossom later than others. I think outside of the goal what impressed me was his link up play yesterday - good decision making throughout the game and finding the right pass when isolated.

 

[M Bison]

Class again, dare I say that he should have done better with that late chance though

 

[MUFC OK]

Class again, dare I say that he should have done better with that late chance though

He will be disappointed with that - says it all.

 

[next_number_seven]

He actually has a decent chance of breaking Rooney's record on current form.

He has 115 goals at age 25.

Let's say he scores 10 more goals this season. We may have 20 ish more games.

Then he starts next season aged 25 (26 in October) on 125 goals.

5 more seasons of 25 goals = 125
6 seasons of 20 goals = 120
7 seasons of 15 goals = 105

Rooney record is 253.

 

[Stacks]

I'm not sure mate. This is his third season out of his last four where he's scored over 20 goals in all competitions. He's also scored more league goals this season than any other inside forward in the Premier League. You talk about the teams he has scored against this season, but goals against City, Liverpool, Arsenal and now Barcelona isn't too shabby. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Don’t get this argument. Rashford scores probably 80% of our goals against the elite teams. He has done since he broke through in 2016.

Yeah I agree he has ALWAYS been a big game player but I'm referring more to the whole picture so everything in totality if you know what I mean? For example he has 12 league goals total where as I remember Salah scored 32 league goals in one season don't forget. His record vs the big 6 has always been fantastic no doubt. However look at posts like below? Have we ever crowned a player world class based off Rashford current this season resume? there are world class forwards who hit 25-30 goals in their respective leagues and then another 10 in the champions league etc. Some even went on to star in the international tournament that same summer. Its hard to know if someone is the best in the world if they're not competing in the top comps. We could get in the CL next season and he struggle. Then what would we be saying?

World class. Possibly the best player in the world on form, right now.

What a terrible post.

Also, he scored 3 in the WC, in about 90 mins if football.. why does he need a clueless Southgate's seal of approval first?? Ridiculous statement.

I said he walks into any team in the world which on form, I stand by. Which club team doesn't start him in their front 3?

Ok but would you say he was one of the stars of the world cup? Mbappe clearly was and this is the level we are comparing. He doesn't start for PSG. Whose place would he take?

 

[AltiUn]

Think it's worth mentioning, he's so good he scores pretty much wherever we put him, left, right, centre. Could stick him in net and I'd fancy him scoring. I've noticed we seem to be getting him more and more used to playing as a striker, I wonder if playing him there is our back up in case we're priced out of moves for our main targets.

 

[MUFC OK]

Yeah I agree he has ALWAYS been a big game player but I'm referring more to the whole picture so everything in totality if you know what I mean? For example he has 12 league goals total where as I remember Salah scored 32 league goals in one season don't forget. His record vs the big 6 has always been fantastic no doubt. However look at posts like below? Have we ever crowned a player world class based off Rashford current this season resume this year? there are world class forwards who hit 25-30 goals in their respective leagues and then another 10 in the champions league etc. Some even went on to star in the international tournament that same summer. Its hard to know if someone is the best in the world if they're not competing in the top comps. We could get in the CL next season and he struggle. Then what would we be saying?


Ok but would you say he was one of the stars of the world cup? Mbappe clearly was and this is the level we are comparing. He doesn't start for PSG. Whose place would he take?

No but that's on Southgate and his favourites. He must wonder if it has been different had he started MR against france - he gave him 8 mins.

He'd start on one of the wings with neymar and Mbappe. Messi in behind.

 

[Remember the geese]

Yeah I agree he has ALWAYS been a big game player but I'm referring more to the whole picture so everything in totality if you know what I mean? For example he has 12 league goals total where as I remember Salah scored 32 league goals in one season don't forget. His record vs the big 6 has always been fantastic no doubt. However look at posts like below? Have we ever crowned a player world class based off Rashford current this season resume? there are world class forwards who hit 25-30 goals in their respective leagues and then another 10 in the champions league etc. Some even went on to star in the international tournament that same summer. Its hard to know if someone is the best in the world if they're not competing in the top comps. We could get in the CL next season and he struggle. Then what would we be saying?


Ok but would you say he was one of the stars of the world cup? Mbappe clearly was and this is the level we are comparing. He doesn't start for PSG. Whose place would he take?

The 32 goal season from Salah is phenomenal. Though I would argue that he was playing for a much better side than we are currently and he hasn't come close to replicating it since. Son and Mane are players who many consider/considered to be top Premier League players, yet they have only scored over 20 league goals in a single season once. In Son's case it was as recently as last season. Rashford has performed well for us in the Champions League in the past, so that isn't a worry at all.

Rashford wasn't one of the stars of the World Cup because he wasn't given the opportunity to be. He did very well in the limited minutes he was given though. I'm not sure what argument you are making regarding Mbappe? If Rashford isn't as good as him, then he cannot be considered a top player? Fans are just excited to see him performing as well as he is. Some may get a little carried away, but Rashford has shown in the past that he has it in him to string a season together like this. The challenge for him is to do it year in year out.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[Teja]

That is actually insane

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Watch Southgate still start Mason fecking Mount over Rashford.

I get so ridiculously angry when I think about Southgate. He saw this Rashford up close and personal every day, saw him rip Wales to pieces and be the best player on the pitch every time he came on and still decided he wasn't good enough to start in a quite shit England team.

I think England would have got to the final if they had a good manager and that Southgate did a woeful job.

On the flip side, he unintentionally helped United a lot. He kept playing the 2 players who needed match time and gave our best attacker a mid-season rest which has probably aided his form.

 

[Wheato]

Spanish press react to Marcus Rashford
The Spanish media only had positive words to describe Marcus Rashford’s performance, with the Manchester United forward embracing the big stage.

Marca described Rashford as ‘frightening’, lauding his impact and asking whether United can hold onto him.

Their report writes: “Rashford is in the type of form that could see another rich club come to United with a blank chequebook and take the English striker. His numbers are frightening and the feeling he left at the Camp Nou is that of a striker capable of changing a game on his own. He shook the entire Barcelona defense and was pivotal to both United goals.”

The newspaper also noted how Erik ten Hag outwitted Xavi, who moved Ronald Araujo the full-back position to try and combat Rashford, who started through the centre.

Mundo Deportivo also reflected on a flawed tactical plan, writing: “The defensive design to stop Rashford did not work, since the United striker was the best of the Manchester team and participated in the two goals that in just seven minutes turned the game around.”

An editorial in Spanish newspaper Sport also praised Manchester United’s number 10, commenting: “Currently it is practically impossible to mention a footballer who is more plugged in than Marcus Rashford.”

Rashford now has 30 goal contributions for the season, with 22 goals and eight assists. There are hopefully a lot more to come.

 

[Deleted 112447]

Why is he not getting the media recognition and hype like Mr Haaland? Man's on fire. Love to see it.

That. Or Mbappe.

Best player in the PL IMO. Just imagine this beast with a Kane along side

 

[Stacks]

The 32 goal season from Salah is phenomenal. Though I would argue that he was playing for a much better side than we are currently and he hasn't come close to replicating it since. Son and Mane are players who many consider/considered to be top Premier League players, yet they have only scored over 20 league goals in a single season once. In Son's case it was as recently as last season. Rashford has performed well for us in the Champions League in the past, so that isn't a worry at all.

Rashford wasn't one of the stars of the World Cup because he wasn't given the opportunity to be. He did very well in the limited minutes he was given though. I'm not sure what argument you are making regarding Mbappe? If Rashford isn't as good as him, then he cannot be considered a top player? Fans are just excited to see him performing as well as he is. Some may get a little carried away, but Rashford has shown in the past that he has it in him to string a season together like this. The challenge for him is to do it year in year out.

I hear ya. but Salah in EPL G has hit 32, 22, 19, 22, 23. I have NEVER called Son World class or one of the best in the world. Not once. Interestingly enough I you search "Mane world class" you may struggle to see a post from me in the cafe because where as I think he is very useful, I don't see him as meeting my criteria for that. So you can see my judgement of world class is very high.

Just for clarification Rashford highest premier league total is 17. I don't even know why 20 is the magic number but hey! Raheem Sterling has hit 17 or more on 3 occasions. Vardy has had 4 seasons of 18+ EPL goals. Rashford has also spent time as our main CF this season which has helped. Rashford CL record isn't the best. He has had campaigns of 3 goals, 2 goals, 6 goals (pretty good) and 1 goal.

I think the messages are getting mixed up. I am not saying he isn't a top player. people have just been going overboard calling him the best in the world and world class which I feel is premature and he doesn't have the resume to have earned that. He is on red hot form but we have seen players do this before. Mbappe is in that world class category and I don't think current Rashy has done enough to be talked about in the same bracket (whether or not he is as good as Mbappe or not is beside the point). I don't just say this about Rashford. You will see I consistently pull people up about their flagrant usage of the world class tag, even for some very good players!

 

[tomaldinho1]

Why is he not getting the media recognition and hype like Mr Haaland? Man's on fire. Love to see it.

Long may it continue, head down and keep banging in the goals.

 

[Strelok]

blank chequebook

They can shove that up their arse.

 

[Remember the geese]

I hear ya. but Salah in EPL G has hit 32, 22, 19, 22, 23. I have NEVER called Son World class or one of the best in the world. Not once. Interestingly enough I you search "Mane world class" you may struggle to see a post from me in the cafe because where as I think he is very useful, I don't see him as meeting my criteria for that. So you can see my judgement of world class is very high.

Just for clarification Rashford highest premier league total is 17. I don't even know why 20 is the magic number but hey! Raheem Sterling has hit 17 or more on 3 occasions. Vardy has had 4 seasons of 18+ EPL goals. Rashford has also spent time as our main CF this season which has helped. Rashford CL record isn't the best. He has had campaigns of 3 goals, 2 goals, 6 goals (pretty good) and 1 goal.

I think the messages are getting mixed up. I am not saying he isn't a top player. people have just been going overboard calling him the best in the world and world class which I feel is premature and he doesn't have the resume to have earned that. He is on red hot form but we have seen players do this before. Mbappe is in that world class category and I don't think current Rashy has done enough to be talked about in the same bracket (whether or not he is as good as Mbappe or not is beside the point). I don't just say this about Rashford. You will see I consistently pull people up about their flagrant usage of the world class tag, even for some very good players!

Yeah Salah is a World Class player, or at the very least has been a World Class player. No argument from me there. Although Son and Mane are not considered to be World Class players by you, I'm sure we can agree that they have been two of the top performing forward players in the league over the past 5 years or so.

Despite being good/very good players at various points, Sterling and Vardy are players who I wouldn't consider to be World Class. Sterling had the benefit of playing for the best team in the country and Vardy was a bonefide centre forward. According to Transfermarkt, Rashford has 12 goals and 3 assists in 1,741 minutes in the Champions League. This equates to just over 19 games. Not too bad considering that we have hardly been sparkling in recent years.

As for the 'best in the world' and 'World Class' labels that have been bandied around, I would probably agree with you. For now. However, it isn't that much of a surprise to see Rashford performing at his current level because we've seen it before. Athough perhaps not quite as good as this. It's just a question of longevity because he needs to continue at this level year after year. We look to be on the right track now as a team and Rashford is finally playing under a talented and progressive coach on the up. Time will tell.

Just to add, we all have our own definitions of what constitutes a World Class or top class player. My own unusual and childish theory would be to pretend that you are constructing a Fantasy Football Team. Write a list of the top 10 or 20 left sided forwards in the world, down on a piece of paper. Seperate them, tear them off individually, scrunch them up and put them into a hat. You've just picked out...'Marcus Rashford'. How are you feeling about that? Personally, if I'm picking out anyone other than Mbappe, I'm a bit disappointed. However, Mbappe is in a league of his own, so who would you hope for as your next best option? I couldn't think of too many I'd want over Rashford. You could debate Vinicius Jnr or one or two others perhaps, but after Mbappe, I'd be pretty content with having Rashford in my team.

 

[Stacks]

Yeah Salah is a World Class player, or at the very least has been a World Class player. No argument from me there. Although Son and Mane are not considered to be World Class players by you, I'm sure we can agree that they have been two of the top performing forward players in the league over the past 5 years or so.

Despite being good/very good players at various points, Sterling and Vardy are players who I wouldn't consider to be World Class. Sterling had the benefit of playing for the best team in the country and Vardy was a bonefide centre forward. According to Transfermarkt, Rashford has 12 goals and 3 assists in 1,741 minutes in the Champions League. This equates to just over 19 games. Not too bad considering that we have hardly been sparkling in recent years.

As for the 'best in the world' and 'World Class' labels that have been bandied around, I would probably agree with you. For now. However, it isn't that much of a surprise to see Rashford performing at his current level because we've seen it before. Athough perhaps not quite as good as this. It's just a question of longevity because he needs to continue at this level year after year. We look to be on the right track now as a team and Rashford is finally playing under a talented and progressive coach on the up. Time will tell.

Just to add, we all have our own definitions of what constitutes a World Class or top class player. My own unusual and childish theory would be to pretend that you are constructing a Fantasy Football Team. Write a list of the top 10 or 20 left sided forwards in the world, down on a piece of paper. Seperate them, tear them off individually, scrunch them up and put them into a hat. You've just picked out...'Marcus Rashford'. How are you feeling about that? Personally, if I'm picking out anyone other than Mbappe, I'm a bit disappointed. However, Mbappe is in a league of his own, so who would you hope for as your next best option? I couldn't think of too many I'd want over Rashford. You could debate Vinicius Jnr or one or two others perhaps, but after Mbappe, I'd be pretty content with having Rashford in my team.

Its funny because we are of 99.9% agreement in most these points.

Even my world class tag is a slightly less simplified version of yours. e.g. mine has 2 main requirements. For my selection, "this player would not look out of place in a hypothetical world XI." For example, he can play alongside that calibre of player but also isn't a big drop down from the comp in his position, which I guess is where we differ. So if it is 2014, if you draw Robben or Bale as your RWF, probably happy with either. If it is the 2000s and you draw either Henry, Raul, Sheva, RVP as CF you are good either way. If you draw as a CM:Kroos or Xavi or Scholes or Iniesta or Gerrard or Modric. If selected and AMC and you draw: Zidane/Kaka/Ronaldinho. That said, my selection also mean that being the best in your position does not necessarily make you world class due to the fact that you could be in an era where your position is relatively weak. Imagine if Lauren was considered the best RB of his era, I don't think his quality matches up to some of the players he would be playing alongside where as guys like Dani Alvez and Lahm (different eras) were clearly of that calibre, if that makes sense?