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Was coming way too deep today.
You do realize that he is a backup striker to Ibra right? The only reason he was on the pitch was because IBRA was suspendedso what? If he's good enough ' he's old enough, right?
Right now, he is nowhere close to good enough, beyond some cameo's when the going is good.
so what? If he's good enough ' he's old enough, right?
Right now, he is nowhere close to good enough, beyond some cameo's when the going is good.
Agree with you and I really do hope that he'll be the top player that he has the potential of being. Mourinho will have to handle him in the correct way (for Rashford), so time will tell.Agreed mate, I'm not bashing him or anything, I think it's silly to put so much on a kid that turned 19 just this year, I am not sure where he'll end up position wise or if he'll be a regular starter long term for us, but right now I think playing wide and coming off the bench is the best use of him while he continues to develop.
Was coming way too deep today.
Apologies. Misunderstood your point.I was only answering the question about how old he was - "...20?" - and I wrote: still 19.
People are still thinking of his period last season where he basically scored every time he got the ball. No one can continue like that all the time. That period had the element of surprise - the opponents know what his strengths and weaknesses are and can defend easier. So they have unfair expectations. Hopefully this has made them see the "truth" - that he needs time.
No worries mate.Apologies. Misunderstood your point.
Agreed.He needs to score a goal too. It's been too long, his confidence needs a lift.
We need a much better reserve striker. SAF used to be able to call upon the likes of Solskjaer, Forlan, or Hernandez when Cole, Ruud etc were injured.You do realize that he is a backup striker to Ibra right? The only reason he was on the pitch was because IBRA was suspended
He's 19 you bunch of spanners.
Exactly, we can not develop our own players at the cost of winning stuff. When it comes to elite football, the very very top, you have to use the very best. There are so few of them out there that prices go up to crazy levels. The second tire is not enough at all. Only the very BEST. Just look at the players Real Madrid are taking in and spitting out. They don't even persist with world record fees players. Second best is first out. Age is not even a factor in this game.
He's 19 you bunch of spanners.
Will be at Everton very soon.
Not good enough.
Now you see why Jose wants to take a risk on Mbappe.
Precisely. Everyone so quick to back a coach who hangs his youngest talents out to dry in the media rather than have any perspective
Mou does this, all the time
Don't use my post in a desperate attempt to slight a manager you don't like, vermin.
Routinely?And see I thought it was desperate nevermind cowardly to routinely admonish your young players to the press but carry on, Mou is the special one
Precisely. Everyone so quick to back a coach who hangs his youngest talents out to dry in the media rather than have any perspective
Mou does this, all the time
Weird comment. He would eventually score if this game go on. Toward the end he's growing into the game.Looks like the game could go for another 10 hrs, still he couldn't hit that darn door.
He needs to go on loan, then learn and prove himself somewhere else first; just like H. Keane.
It would be extremely stupid for Mou to depend on him as United 2nd striker for a 36 y.o. Ibra. next season.
Routinely?
And is Mkhitaryan a young player now?
Not old although Henrikh certainly is younger than say Schweinsteiger. But is Martial young? Luke Shaw, Lingard? How about Hazard? Ozil at RM?
Yes, routinely. Can you even name a big club manager who is known for calling out players in the media? I only know of one, a special one
"I would not criticise one of my own players publicly. When you make public criticism of your players, you damage morale." - SAF
So you've gone from calling out young players to calling out players.Not old although Henrikh certainly is younger than say Schweinsteiger. But is Martial young? Luke Shaw, Lingard? How about Hazard? Ozil at RM?
Yes, routinely. Can you even name a big club manager who is known for calling out players in the media? I only know of one, a special one
"I would not criticise one of my own players publicly. When you make public criticism of your players, you damage morale." - SAF
Give up a 19 year old for an 18 year old
Right...........
It would be extremely stupid for Mou to depend on him as United 2nd striker for a 36 y.o. Ibra. next season.
Not old although Henrikh certainly is younger than say Schweinsteiger. But is Martial young? Luke Shaw, Lingard? How about Hazard? Ozil at RM?
Yes, routinely. Can you even name a big club manager who is known for calling out players in the media? I only know of one, a special one
"I would not criticise one of my own players publicly. When you make public criticism of your players, you damage morale." - SAF
- SAF"We gave the ball away for a third goal and we were in complete control of the game at that point," Ferguson said after United's 5-4 League Cup extra-time defeat at Chelsea.
"We were playing really good football at that point and all we needed to do was see the game out by keeping possession.
"But Nani decided to try and beat a player, lost the ball and they got a penalty kick against us.”
He's a 19 year old kid who, at best, should be on the the fringes of the squad. He was thrown in due to injuries, probably long before he was scheduled to be but did very well and performed (well scored) above all expectation...great start but it's saddled him with this 'wonderkid' status, which I'm not even convinced the club thought he was.
But you listen to the 'experts' on Soccer Saturday today and they claimed that he's barely played and that this year has been "a wasted year", insinuating that Mourinho is ruining his career. He's 19 ffs and has been involved (according to Wikipedia) in 39 games this season and is a fixture in the national team. Apart from being utter bollocks, the weight on his shoulders is far too much for a young player in his infancy of his career.
Basically (this can't be news to anyone) he needs time and experience before we have any idea what level he will become, because he's far from convinced me he will become a guaranteed long-term starter at a big club. That's not a criticism - he has great potential but he needs time to develop etc and needs to prove himself, just as all young players do.
I do agree with what you are saying, but Jose is under pressure to play home grown youngsters. So, I expect Rashford to continue playing in the first team or coming off the bench.
I personally think it would be better for him to be loaned to a lesser side (Championship or League One), so he can toughen up a little and grown into his body. When a teenager keeps getting beaten up like he is (ie. not scoring a goal), it can play havoc with confidence.
I am amazed that in fellaini's thread he gets praised for doing his job, which just included passing the ball to the player besides him, and here some are critical of a 19 years old kid who actually tried to do something.
I dont know why people expect from Rashord to be the best player of our team or even a decent backup. His role, i hope, is to never be a decent backup, but a star. All the players at this age are hot and cold, dont expect them to be decent backups, which actually means to be able to reach your standards week in week out.
They don't even persist with word record fee players. True. But they own the most pricey squad and two out of their front three were record fee players.Exactly, we can not develop our own players at the cost of winning stuff. When it comes to elite football, the very very top, you have to use the very best. There are so few of them out there that prices go up to crazy levels. The second tire is not enough at all. Only the very BEST. Just look at the players Real Madrid are taking in and spitting out. They don't even persist with world record fees players. Second best is first out. Age is not even a factor in this game.