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I hope this is how we use him for the rest of the season, barring a few matches. He's so much better off the bench.
While I don't have anything to disagree with Rashford coming off the bench seems to be positive, I don't think it's a good idea for long term development. As I already stated few times in this thread, getting through disadvantageous situation is when he learns to overcome his flaw/ limit. Having a limited role would hinder his development long term & turn him into one dimensional player.

Very good cameo nevertheless.
 
While I don't have anything to disagree with Rashford coming off the bench seems to be positive, I don't think it's a good idea for long term development. As I already stated few times in this thread, getting through disadvantageous situation is when he learns to overcome his flaw/ limit. Having a limited role would hinder his development long term & turn him into one dimensional player.

Very good cameo nevertheless.
I'd only go with this for this season, never as a permanent thing of course. He's still young and has a great player in Ibra to learn from, so hopefully next season we can see more starts in his best position (which I doubt, we'll probably get someone like Griezmann to replace Ibra).
 
WTF? Only you are talking about "weird LVG doomsday scenario projections" All I'm saying is that LVG was playing the young guys a lot due in large part to injuries and it gave them more chances to play ... and they played well at times and very poorly at others (due to lack of experience?) They're not going to get as many chance under Mou and rightly so is all?


"Obviously"

Well, you randomly brought LVG into it and started talking about how we'd be struggling for 10th or some nonsense. It is possible to think Rashford's being badly developed this season without wanting LVG back.

None of what you're saying has much if anything to do with what I said. Which was simply that I'd like to see Rashford play more through the middle than he does on the left. Throw him on instead of Zlatan when games are wrapped up instead of trying to put him into a fight with Martial for a position that doesn't suit him.

You seem to have taken this as some LVG v Jose comparison for some reason. It really isn't. I'm just giving an opinion of how I think Rashord could be better developed.
 
I'd only go with this for this season, never as a permanent thing of course. He's still young and has a great player in Ibra to learn from, so hopefully next season we can see more starts in his best position (which I doubt, we'll probably get someone like Griezmann to replace Ibra).
Fair points.

Just saying that even the game he started but doesn't impress too many fans, it would be useful for him. I don't think at this stage of his career we should have him in restricted role (off the bench)
 
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With his pace and energy he's ideal coming off the bench for the last 20 minutes, good to see him using his left as well tonight.
 
Awesome tonight. His energy, pace and movement made a difference for us. Earned a start against Blackburn, and I hope he gets the goal he needs.
 
Game changer off the bench. More of than and less starting until he's ready.
 
As most have said, this is how he should be used. He will get games / minutes and be lethal against tiring legs (whether its through the middle or out wide). - And seeing him start up top in cup games like against Blackburn.
 
Great cameo. As stated numerous times before, he's best utilised as an impact sub, for now.

It's in those last 30 minutes when his pace, energy and speed makes a difference against already tiring defenders.
 
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I noticed how, whenever Marcus was the topic, the commentators would constantly make the point of this already being his 50th game for us.

Having him come on after 70 or so minutes, with defenders having to have had to cope with Zlatan/Martial/Mkhi/Mata prior, is a lethal weapon to have.
 
Just watched the highlights. There is something so thrilling about watching Rashford and Martial attack at speed.
 
Starting striker against Blackburn? I'd hope so. Definitely prefer that over Rooney.
 
I think his good performance came from;
a) playing against a team who defensively are poorly organised.
b) having freedom to attack the right wing and centre of the pitch instead of hugging the left wing

Moreso than coming on as a sub.
 
His good performance came from the fact Lingard played centrally. This meant he could come in from wings with freedom & Lingard could run in to occupy space.

I got to see something that resembled what I reckon LVG would have done - obviously youth centered but martial & Rashford playing as wide forwards & Lingard running in to the space from the middle to keep a rotating front 3.
 
I think his good performance came from;
a) playing against a team who defensively are poorly organised.
b) having freedom to attack the right wing and centre of the pitch instead of hugging the left wing

Moreso than coming on as a sub.

c) being good at football
 
Love him and hope he does not become Chicha 2 and proves me wrong and become a starter

I think he's already ahead of Chica in some regards. He could never run with the ball like Rashford can. Nor did he have such ridiculous pace.

Long way to go before we can say he'll be a definite starter but the signs are promising.
 
Well, you randomly brought LVG into it and started talking about how we'd be struggling for 10th or some nonsense. It is possible to think Rashford's being badly developed this season without wanting LVG back.

None of what you're saying has much if anything to do with what I said. Which was simply that I'd like to see Rashford play more through the middle than he does on the left. Throw him on instead of Zlatan when games are wrapped up instead of trying to put him into a fight with Martial for a position that doesn't suit him.

You seem to have taken this as some LVG v Jose comparison for some reason. It really isn't. I'm just giving an opinion of how I think Rashord could be better developed.
Sorry Steve, our wires are crossed. The LVG comparison got lost in translation; not a good example. Let's both agree we want Rashford to get as much time of the field as possible, ideally in the middle rather than LW where Martial seems much better suited. I would also like to see Rashford at RW without sacrificing Mkhi at least occasionally.
Perhaps in a 4-3-3 where he and Martial play either side if Ibra and with Herrera Pogba & Mkhi in midfield (or Mata obviously), you?
 
I think he's already ahead of Chica in some regards. He could never run with the ball like Rashford can. Nor did he have such ridiculous pace.

Long way to go before we can say he'll be a definite starter but the signs are promising.

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Chicha had--and continues to have--tremendous pace. He was clocked as the fastest player at the 2010 World Cup.
 
I think he's already ahead of Chica in some regards. He could never run with the ball like Rashford can. Nor did he have such ridiculous pace.

Long way to go before we can say he'll be a definite starter but the signs are promising.

Chicha is one of the fastest players ive ever seen!
 
Better off the bench at the moment. Probably expect him to start vs Blackburn though.
 
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Chicha had--and continues to have--tremendous pace. He was clocked as the fastest player at the 2010 World Cup.

Chicha is one of the fastest players ive ever seen!

He's never as fast as Rashford. Which is the point I made. Hernandez can't run with the ball either.

Obviously Rashford doesn't have his goal scoring ability.

In today's game though I think you've more chance of making it if you offer more outside the box. Even if you offer a little less inside it.
 
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Should be coming on against tired legs for now.

Very good cameo. He is excellent coming off the bench.

This is what he's good at. Coming off the bench and that should continue to be his role.

He's been great almost every time he's come off the bench.

I hope this is how we use him for the rest of the season, barring a few matches. He's so much better off the bench.

He's just so much better off the bench.

He's deadly off the bench. Defenders can't live with him when he comes on after they've already been chasing Martial and Mata around for 70-80 minutes.

With his pace and energy he's ideal coming off the bench for the last 20 minutes, good to see him using his left as well tonight.

Game changer off the bench. More of than and less starting until he's ready.

Great cameo. As stated numerous times before, he's best utilised as an impact sub, for now.

It's in those last 30 minutes when his pace, energy and speed makes a difference against already tiring defenders.

I noticed how, whenever Marcus was the topic, the commentators would constantly make the point of this already being his 50th game for us.

Having him come on after 70 or so minutes, with defenders having to have had to cope with Zlatan/Martial/Mkhi/Mata prior, is a lethal weapon to have.

Better off the bench at the moment. Probably expect him to start vs Blackburn though.
So what guys are say is, he is better coming off the bench? Just making sure over here.
 
Too many people having a dig at this player. He is not a winger, never will be. Mourinho has ruined him because he his head up Ibrahimovic. Rashford's finishing has regressed because of Mourinho. I'd love to see his guy play up front with Mata/Martial/Mkhitaryan.

Ibrahimovic can't run in behind has no pace. Scored goals but not enough for what we want to achieve. The football is slow and pedestrian with Ibrahimovic. Mourinho's use of Rashford has been terrible, he only looks good on the wing off the bench vs tired defenders.
I'd love to see him up top too, however Rashford is still amazingly young, perhaps Jose is trying to develop other areas of his game such as dribbling/taking players on, whilst also accommodating Zlatan. I'd be worried if he continued to not even sub as a striker next year. I don't imagine he starts or plays a huge striker role whilst Zlatan is here however. As long as he bangs goals in that's fine, very small chance Rashford would knock in 23 goals with the same amount of time.
 
He's never as fast as Rashford. Which is the point I made. Hernandez can't run with the ball either.

Obviously Rashford doesn't have his goal scoring ability.

In today's game though I think you've more chance of making it if you offer more outside the box. Even if you offer a little less inside it.

Again ----> :wenger:
 
Mate I wouldn't be so amazed. I'm pretty sure you're in a minority if you think Hernandez is faster(or as fast as) than Rashford.

All we have is your offhand remark that Rashford is faster than Hernandez. Obviously, you have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

What we do have in terms of actual numbers regarding their speed (or really just the speed of ONE of these players) is the aforementioned fact about Chico at the World Cup.

According to you, he's never been as fast as Rashford. My response to that is that Chico is far too fast a player to dismiss his speed as readily as you did in your earlier post-again, with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim.
 
All we have is your offhand remark that Rashford is faster than Hernandez. Obviously, you have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

What we do have in terms of actual numbers regarding their speed (or really just the speed of ONE of these players) is the aforementioned fact about Chico at the World Cup.

According to you, he's never been as fast as Rashford. My response to that is that Chico is far too fast a player to dismiss his speed as readily as you did in your earlier post-again, with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim.

No evidence? We watch these players every week. It's blatantly obvious.

Nor did I "dismiss" his speed. Why would I. I just said he's not as quick as Rashford.
 
All we have is your offhand remark that Rashford is faster than Hernandez. Obviously, you have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

What we do have in terms of actual numbers regarding their speed (or really just the speed of ONE of these players) is the aforementioned fact about Chico at the World Cup.

According to you, he's never been as fast as Rashford. My response to that is that Chico is far too fast a player to dismiss his speed as readily as you did in your earlier post-again, with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim.
Going off similar stats you would then agree that jagielka was the fastest player in the premier league?
 
No evidence? We watch these players every week. It's blatantly obvious.

Nor did I "dismiss" his speed. Why would I. I just said he's not as quick as Rashford.

I didn't realize that you could register speed with your eyes--and that accurately too.
 
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