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Ten Years a Cafite
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His run and acceleration look very smooth. It doesn't look forced. Very Henry's like.
Agree.It doesn't, nobody has perfect finishing and Rashford's last season was always unsustainable when everything came off for him. This season he just went on a drought but overall is generally finishing pretty normally. Him playing on the wing gives him less chances to score of course, which could impact his confidence which can have an effect on his finishing, but that's just his mentality more then anything.
yep he really put his foot through that lolGreat to see him score 2 after so long without.
That finish on that second goal!
Was his finishing even bad today really? The only one I really remember him missing is when he went round the keeper, and that was a hard finish to pull off. The angle was tight and he had to hit it hard to make sure it wouldn't be blocked. Other than that I can't think of any he didn't score that he clearly should have
Looking for another young elephantYou should just be quiet at this point.
Thing is in PL, it's hard enough to pull up to comfortable goal gap (3), then defending the lead in PL is harder. Zlatan helped keeping the front line and prevented the opponent to pushed us back, with his holding up play which Rashford still lacks. Then defending set piece. Getting Zlatan off may mean putting Fellaini in, that's counter productive.I'd love for him to be getting last 20 ish minutes instead of Ibrahimovic in matches where we're few up and the game is decided.
Thing is in PL, it's hard enough to pull up to comfortable goal gap (3), then defending the lead in PL is harder. Zlatan helped keeping the front line and prevented the opponent to pushed us back, with his holding up play which Rashford still lacks. Then defending set piece. Getting Zlatan off may mean putting Fellaini in, that's counter productive.
Rashford will get enough game time playing the wing position and still making impact like vs West Ham. Also, Zlatan does drift around leading to Rashford to have pace to playing as our furthest central player at times: at the end of Crystal Palace part of vs West Ham... It's more about Rashford taking his chance than starting position as we ain't playing static formation.
You don't need to win all the header to consider useful in aerial duel. How to use the body to put pressure on the opponent can help. Rashford for a well built body is god awful. Bringing Zlatan off would mean Fellaini too, which is a no no.Mate there was some games in which if we were a bit more clinical we would have had a 5:0 lead easily.
Zlatan is tall but his defensive and offensive headers are pretty poor tbh and he more often than not resorts to trying to taekwondoo kick the ball instead making a header.
IMO bringing Rashford on for the last 20 ish minutes can only benefit us because it will also confuse the opposition defenders.
They had to deal with Zlatan physicality all game long and now, already tired gonna need to deal with Rashford's pace and speed.
Also Zlatan hold-up game in late minutes is only necessary because we lay back deep to defend but even then if you have a super quick CF that can make use of any long ball you send to him is a big threat.
Mate there was some games in which if we were a bit more clinical we would have had a 5:0 lead easily.
Zlatan is tall but his defensive and offensive headers are pretty poor tbh and he more often than not resorts to trying to taekwondoo kick the ball instead making a header.
IMO bringing Rashford on for the last 20 ish minutes can only benefit us because it will also confuse the opposition defenders.
They had to deal with Zlatan physicality all game long and now, already tired gonna need to deal with Rashford's pace and speed.
Also Zlatan hold-up game in late minutes is only necessary because we lay back deep to defend but even then if you have a super quick CF that can make use of any long ball you send to him is a big threat.
You make them sound dogs who chase after a fake ball throw.
They're Premier League defenders, I'm sure they will get their head around a substitution.
FFS dude, my logic is that we should give Rashford more minutes in CF position instead of constantly playing him on wings.You don't need to win all the header to consider useful in aerial duel. How to use the body to put pressure on the opponent can help. Rashford for a well built body is god awful. Bringing Zlatan off would mean Fellaini too, which is a no no.
If you're able to make a great goal gap then you don't need to confuse opposition defenders any more since you're doing well. We can always switch to formation with 2 central forward , aka vs later minutes in Boro, with Martial coming central with Zlatan so doesn't really need to remove Zlatan for the sake of change thing up and ended up with Fellaini.
Keeping the front line to prevent the other team to push up is different to having fast forward to counter attack. The prime example is Chicharito and Rooney back in the days vs Barcelona. Without proper holding up play, the opponent can squeeze our team and push us back just fine having fast player on the break or not.
I am not saying we shouldn't rest Zlatan at some point if the scoreline is comfortable, but I am against the logic in your initial post: changing thing up (20 minutes) for the sake of changing without consideration.
You make them sound dogs who chase after a fake ball throw.
They're Premier League defenders, I'm sure they will get their head around a substitution.
His off the ball movement is excellent, he's always an option for our midfielders. Sometimes his play can be a little sloppy, but he's young and developing. He's a terrific talent, and if he stays clear of injuries, he will be here for a long time contributing.
What if the young fast CF doesn't know how to press properly and leave gap?FFS dude, my logic is that we should give Rashford more minutes in CF position instead of constantly playing him on wings.
I think it's a sensible request considering our CF is 35 years old and there's no need for him to be playing 90 minutes every single game there is.
Regarding Zlatan's positioning in defensive and offensive set pieces is not special at all, there were few instances where he should have cleared it with his head easily yet he opted for some sort of high kick which resulted in opposition having a good chance to score.
Isn't it logical that the young, fast striker will be more useful when you're pressing up and keeping opposition defenders on alert?
What if the young fast CF doesn't know how to press properly and leave gap?
Running chasing after ball aimlessly is not the way to do it. Look at Rooney. When he's younger and full of energy, he ran around and pressing aimlessly and in his early 30 still doesn't know how to press properly plus physical decline means he's closer to finishing at top level than Zlatan.
Learning is not always trying. Sometimes you need to watch and understand how to get thing done. Zlatan is one of the few who tactically presses very well from CF position. Rashford has youthness as his companion, but it's more important for him to learn from Zlatan now (he won't be here long) than trial and error way and risk ended up as another Welbeck.
What do you think that make the difference that we suddenly create more chance even if it's just hoof ball from our CBs this season than the last? It's fecking Zlatan positioning and pressing. I repeat: You don't need to win all headers. You only need to apply pressure and force mistake/guide the opponent to react to your calculated strategy. If you have time watch PSG and see how much his departure affect their play, despite they should have been strengthened enough to replace his influence.
Resting 20 minutes is not that significant in regular schedule: sufficient recover time between game.
Said someone who can't talk sense.Stop writing utter nonsense will you please? Stopped reading after the first sentence.
Pressing the defenders isn't fekin rockey science belive it or not ffs!
Said someone who can't talk sense.
Okay. Just have your hope up for Rashford 20 minutes CF genius plan. Noone would burst your bubble. Not even Mourinho.
This says it all and the fact that by your understanding i wanted to play Rashford for 20 mins just for the sake of changing ahahah
yep he really put his foot through that lol
This says it all and the fact that by your understanding i wanted to play Rashford for 20 mins just for the sake of changing ahahah
... my logic is that we should give Rashford more minutes in CF position instead of constantly playing him on wings. /QUOTE]
Ah ah, I didn't quite get that from your first post. Now I agree with you.
As for tight games (ones can't afford to lose or draw) and choosing between Ibra & Rashford for the last 20 minutes, I'd still choose Ibra for his experience & guile.
We do however, desperately need a replacement for what Ibra brings to the table, and soon! Ideally within the next 8 - 12 months or so. And it'd be great if we can groom Rashford to be that player. To accomplish that, giving him minutes in the striker position is crucial but choosing when & where is what we pay the gaffer for.
It it were me, I think in selected games, I might consider starting Rashford at CF with a plan to bring on Ibra for the last 30 (or at half time if it's not going well!) Or not at all if the game is won. And I don't necessarily mean I'll take Rashford off but we'd have options obviously. The biggest benefit however may be that i'd have the benefit of resting my main guy as the season progresses protecting the "old man" against becoming fatigued & therefore encouraging the risk of injury.
With any luck, we are going to have some really fecking important matches coming up late-on this season & I for one, want Ibra fit & fresh when that happens.
And Rashford too
Live in your bubble.
You probably want to take Zlatan off to limit his game time because everytime he scores it makes all the things you said about him before look even more rediculous.
You're deluded one... and don't call me mate.You're deluded mate, don't think even bubble would help you.
Special, special talent. His football brain is incredible and he's not even 20 yet. Should get as much playing time as possible. FA cup should be his
You're deluded one... and don't call me mate.
Trying cover you ass and got called out rightly for being a bullshitter. Zlatan is always a chance waster despite scoring plenty. It's not like you give him credit doesn't change his game. Was always offer similar attribute for years. Too deluded to see it doesn't justified your kneejerk post back then.
When was the last time Zlatan got subbed off during a match due to fatigue?
Don't burst your bubble...
You're not only deluded but one step short from a serious diagnosis MATE.
First of all you completely missed my point of why i said i would like to see Rashford getting some more minutes as CF.
After which you all of a sudden start saying that it takes great skill and practice to pressure an opponent