[fallengt]

Sell. I'll drive him to the airport my self

 

[NK86]

Sorry, not really directed at you but Rojo does seem to attract a lot of hate from a lot of United fans when players like Schniedlerlin who were just as bad last season just can't seem to do no wrong.

I think Rojo just may need a bit longer to settle and could turn out ok. He just reminds me of Paddy Evra and how he started out in his first couple of seasons before being a great servant for many years at United.

I think people should cut Rojo some slack and at least give him another year.

Evra joined us midseason in January and was excellent after a full preseason. Rojo has been here two full seasons. Really don't understand the comparison.

 

[Dr Pavel]

Funny how Shaw was the one who lost Dembele letting him run straight at the defence yet Rojo's the one getting all the hate.

 

[RORY65]

Funny how Shaw was the one who lost Dembele letting him run straight at the defence yet Rojo's the one getting all the hate.

The fact Shaw's just come back from a year out and is obviously going to take a while to get his form back whilst Rojo came off a season of being utter shit and got sat on his backside with a bit of schoolboy, idiotic defending again might be the reason for that.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

I don't see any way he'll survive the cull.

 

[Scorpy]

The way Dembele destroyed him was fecking embarrassing and it had nothing to do with his fitness levels. He's just shite.

 

[ti vu]

I can see pass the Dembelele'a goal as Dembelele's a real threat and we didn't build tactic specifically to win this game. A player who is as good on ball as Dembelele would be a nightmare one on one for any defenders (Shaw also got caught). However, the Castro's goal purely exposed Rojo's shit understanding of the game: he should step up or hold his ground. Instead, he backed off (got pulled by that Dortmund player runner) thus created more space for Castro!

Match fit is a problem. Bad touches, bad passes are expected but his positions are all over the place. For example Dembele's false offside call: while Valencia and Bailly had to take blame for playing him on, Rojo was terrible. The lack of communication (he can speak with Bailly in Spanish), and the way he got out of picture when Dembele made the run was pure bad defending. Jones was bad in first half, but Rojo was able to be worse! Bailly seems to be one man CB in the second half.

 

[Dr Pavel]

The fact Shaw's just come back from a year out and is obviously going to take a while to get his form back whilst Rojo came off a season of being utter shit and got sat on his backside with a bit of schoolboy, idiotic defending again might be the reason for that.

Dembele lost Shaw the exact same way he lost Rojo. If Rojo's defending was schoolboy & idiotic then so was Shaw's.

It was an awesome piece of skills by Dembele that took out 2 defenders who were playing their 2nd game of pre season in very difficult conditions. If we're going to give Shaw the benefit of the doubt then Rojo deserves the same.

 

[Nickosaur]

Dembele lost Shaw the exact same way he lost Rojo. If Rojo's defending was schoolboy & idiotic then so was Shaw's.

It was an awesome piece of skills by Dembele that took out 2 defenders who were playing their 2nd game of pre season in very difficult conditions. If we're going to give Shaw the benefit of the doubt then Rojo deserves the same.

I agree with you Dr Pavel.

Rojo is still shite and needs to be sold, mind.

 

[RORY65]

Dembele lost Shaw the exact same way he lost Rojo. If Rojo's defending was schoolboy & idiotic then so was Shaw's.

It was an awesome piece of skills by Dembele that took out 2 defenders who were playing their 2nd game of pre season in very difficult conditions. If we're going to give Shaw the benefit of the doubt then Rojo deserves the same.

Shaw's challenge was soft and it bounced back to Dembele, he didn't get put on his arse by someone merely changing direction. It was good play by an outstanding young player but it's rare to see a centre back get beaten so badly. I'm not sure why Rojo deserves the same benefit of the doubt anyway, Shaw is just back from a broken leg whilst we've had a season (more a season and a bit) that shows Rojo is not good enough and prone to fairly frequent moments of brainless defending. If Shaw has a woeful season and is doing stuff like that next pre-season then my reaction will be different but that isn't the case.

 

[Dr Pavel]

Shaw's challenge was soft and it bounced back to Dembele, he didn't get put on his arse by someone merely changing direction. It was good play by an outstanding young player but it's rare to see a centre back get beaten so badly. I'm not sure why Rojo deserves the same benefit of the doubt anyway, Shaw is just back from a broken leg whilst we've had a season (more a season and a bit) that shows Rojo is not good enough and prone to fairly frequent moments of brainless defending. If Shaw has a woeful season and is doing stuff like that next pre-season then my reaction will be different but that isn't the case.

Shaw was not close enough to Dembele, letting him receive the ball on the half turn, then stuck a leg out and got turned. Exactly the same as Rojo, only difference is Dembele was running full pelt when he got to Rojo.

As for the opinion that Rojo is shit, I don't think he is. Every one of our defenders had plenty of brain fart moments last season. Imo Rojo is a 5-6/10 player and he had a 5-6/10 season.

 

[ti vu]

Shaw's challenge was soft and it bounced back to Dembele, he didn't get put on his arse by someone merely changing direction. It was good play by an outstanding young player but it's rare to see a centre back get beaten so badly. I'm not sure why Rojo deserves the same benefit of the doubt anyway, Shaw is just back from a broken leg whilst we've had a season (more a season and a bit) that shows Rojo is not good enough and prone to fairly frequent moments of brainless defending. If Shaw has a woeful season and is doing stuff like that next pre-season then my reaction will be different but that isn't the case.

Disagree. Dembelele is very good running at defender in one on one situation. It can be happening to anyone. Mourinho clearly stated in the press conference, we don't scout or try to negate Dortmund's tactic = we let some of their greater threat with more space than a real game should require. Here we tried to experiment our own tactics, set play, positioning... Rojo can get a pass for this one vs one. There are still more than enough awful postioning error to see with Rojo than just use this instance to criticize him which happened many times during pre season for many defenders.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I never want to see him at LB again. I prefer him in the centre and I think he may be better than Jones there. He is a backup at best and will probably kick up a fuss and pout when he only gets league Cup and injury fill in starts.

He is a penalty ticking time bomb at CB. Just imagine Heinze but all the bad parts and very little of the good.

 

[Iron Stove]

I really like the fecker, a crazy argie defender and one of the few guys in last years squad with a set of balls, but unfortunately he's just not good enough.

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

I really like the fecker, a crazy argie defender and one of the few guys in last years squad with a set of balls, but unfortunately he's just not good enough.

This

 

[devilish]

Dembele lost Shaw the exact same way he lost Rojo. If Rojo's defending was schoolboy & idiotic then so was Shaw's.

It was an awesome piece of skills by Dembele that took out 2 defenders who were playing their 2nd game of pre season in very difficult conditions. If we're going to give Shaw the benefit of the doubt then Rojo deserves the same.

Shaw is a 21 year old fullback. Rojo is a 26 year old CB. Fullbacks aren't expected to be good in defending as CBs are. No one expected Evra, Rafael or the cocky pundit who loves his ipad to be able to defend as well as Rio or Stam did

 

[Footyislife]

I think the CB experiment is over after this latest showing. He's a good backup LB. He's tall, athletic, and can cross. Sounds like a Mourinho fullback to me.

 

[buckooo1978]

A serious liability with at least one brainfart a game

Really don't see how he warrants a place in the squad at LB with Shaw, Borthwick-Jackson, Blind and TFM available there....

If we see him as backup at CB then I think we are really fecked... Sell and bring in experience

How this guy was deemed better than Johnny Evans I will never know

 

[jem]

A serious liability with at least one brainfart a game

Really don't see how he warrants a place in the squad at LB with Shaw, Borthwick-Jackson, Blind and TFM available there....

If we see him as backup at CB then I think we are really fecked... Sell and bring in experience

How this guy was deemed better than Johnny Evans I will never know

Because he was clearly better than Evans in the one season they both played at United. No idea what's happened to him since then, though.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

One of worst players I've seen at Utd.

Terrible player. Hopefully he's gone by September.

 

[Full bodied red]

He is a penalty ticking time bomb at CB. Just imagine Heinze but all the bad parts and very little of the good.

Aaahh...Gabby Heinze...Loved the guy to bits

Ironic that without the injury, could have become the legend that Patrice Evra has now become

 

[SwansonsTache]

Nothing player. I would seriously accept £5m for him. Knowing us that is probably what we'll get as well.

 

[TwoSheds]

I think the CB experiment is over after this latest showing. He's a good backup LB. He's tall, athletic, and can cross. Sounds like a Mourinho fullback to me.

Eh? I can't think of one good cross he's ever put in. That's the main reason I think he's a shite fullback, basically gives the ball straight to the opposition every time he tries to pass or cross when he goes forward.

 

[Footyislife]

He's not a good crosser, but compared to Valencia he's definitely better. He can whip it in with pace. Sadly i don't think he ever aims. Just kicks it and hopes something good will happen. If you watch him in the national team squad you will see more of his mediocre crossing skills.

Eh? I can't think of one good cross he's ever put in. That's the main reason I think he's a shite fullback, basically gives the ball straight to the opposition every time he tries to pass or cross when he goes forward.

 

[Lawman]

Nothing player. I would seriously accept £5m for him. Knowing us that is probably what we'll get as well.

Agreed but £5m is not bad for him

 

[K2K]

The only reason we signed him was because of Van Gaal's left foot fetish .

A waste of 16 mil

 

[kr0nix]

Eh? I can't think of one good cross he's ever put in. That's the main reason I think he's a shite fullback, basically gives the ball straight to the opposition every time he tries to pass or cross when he goes forward.

EDIT: Rojo's cross for Herrera's goal

 

[NK86]

Because he was clearly better than Evans in the one season they both played at United. No idea what's happened to him since then, though.

Evans was injured quite a lot that season and his confidence was shot. Just look at him and Rojo now to see the difference.

 

[TwoSheds]

EDIT: Rojo's cross for Herrera's goal

So one then. Doesn't make him a good crosser. Consistently puts in the worst crosses in the team.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Nah, Rojo puts in a decent cross. The only problem is that he's pretty crap at every other attribute you'd want in a fullback. And even worse in central defence.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

Nothing player. I would seriously accept £5m for him. Knowing us that is probably what we'll get as well.

I think we might struggle to get any sort of fee as who is going to pay his wages?

 

[Art Vandelay]

He's just taking up a squad place at the minute, he's done nothing to show he's good enough at either leftback or centreback.

 

[Nickosaur]

Nothing player. I would seriously accept £5m for him. Knowing us that is probably what we'll get as well.

£5m is about right, I'd be fine with that. It's his wages that will be a stumbling block I'd imagine.

 

[Kaos]

Just another reminder of how short-sighted it is to buy players off an international tournament showing.

 

[Cutch]

Rojo will put in one decent cross in a game, if you're lucky. 8/10 will hit the first man and 1/10 will sail over the bar

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Nah, Rojo puts in a decent cross. The only problem is that he's pretty crap at every other attribute you'd want in a fullback. And even worse in central defence.

I'd say he's OK at best at crossing (sometimes) ... but that's the problem with Rojo, any of his so called "best" attributes (whatever they are) could only really be described as being OK / decent at best.

 

[jem]

Evans was injured quite a lot that season and his confidence was shot. Just look at him and Rojo now to see the difference.

Now there is no question who is playing better, but two seasons ago, Evans was an absolute disaster.

 

[Nighteyes]

Evans was unlucky in that he had his worst season for the club that year and even so he was only marginally worse than Rojo. No doubt Evans is a million miles better than Rojo in general.

 

[TwoSheds]

Rojo will put in one decent cross in a game, if you're lucky. 8/10 will hit the first man and 1/10 will sail over the bar

Agreed. Though I'd call it very lucky.

 

[NK86]

Now there is no question who is playing better, but two seasons ago, Evans was an absolute disaster.

He had a few really bad games but then his injury affected him more. Rojo was average in his first season with us and has been diabolical ever since.