[devilish]

Rojo is a decent player. He's tough, fast, fairly talented and pretty versatile. However he's no better to what we already have and with so many young defenders around we needed a leader.

 

[theyneverlearn]

Rojo is a decent player. He's tough, fast, fairly talented and pretty versatile. However he's no better to what we already have and with so many young defenders around we needed a leader.

Add left footed and experienced and it was/is good to have him as an option in the squad.

 

[Sly]

In Russian press there were a lot of talks about how this figure is far from the real one - as Benfica should've pay some big percentage of this transfer back to Real

And I thought that the official amount was 6 millions, not 2,5?

Official ammount was indeed 6 million. The question here is that Benfica only had 50% of the rights. The other 50% belonged to Real Madrid. So it was 2,5 million each and 1 million to the agent i think.

 

[harms]

Official ammount was indeed 6 million. The question here is that Benfica only had 50% of the rights. The other 50% belonged to Real Madrid. So it was 2,5 million each and 1 million to the agent i think.

Nope. 6 million to Benfica (40%), Zenit paid around 15 millions overall (and rumors are that the actual amount was bigger).

 

[Sly]

Nope. 6 million to Benfica (40%), Zenit paid around 15 millions overall (and rumors are that the actual amount was bigger).

Nope. Don't base yourself on rumours. I'm basing myself on the Benfica CMVM (Lisbon stock exchange) report, that every PLC has to do in Portugal.

http://www.dn.pt/desporto/benfica/interior.aspx?content_id=3991366

"O Benfica oficializou, em comunicado dirigido à Comissão do Mercado de Valores Mobiliários (CMVM), nesta quarta-feira, a transferência do central argentino Ezequiel Garay para o Zenit, numa operação que vai render apenas 2,4 milhões de euros aos cofres da Luz.



Ao contrário do que foi inicialmente noticiado, os seis milhões de euros não correspondem aos 40% que o Benfica detinha, mas sim à totalidade da transferência, confirma a Agência EFE.

Assim, o Real Madrid vai receber três milhões de euros e o Benfica Stars Fund 600 mil euros, detalha a Agência EFE. O Benfica, recorde-se, pagou 5,5 milhões de euros por Garay e encaixou 1,175 milhões pela alienação de 10% do passe no mesmo ano."


Translating the important part:

"Benfica made the Garay transfer to Zenit official with a CMVM stock exchange report this wednesday, in an operation that will only get 2,4 million euros to the club.

Contrary to what was recently reported, the six million euros don't correspond to the 40% that Benfica had, but to the total transfer value, reported the spanish agency EFE.

This way, Real Madrid will get 3 million euros, Benfica stars fund will get 600k euros."

Hope this settles it.

 

[harms]

Nope. Don't base yourself on rumours. I'm basing myself on the Benfica CMVM (Lisbon stock exchange) report, that every PLC has to do in Portugal.

http://www.dn.pt/desporto/benfica/interior.aspx?content_id=3991366

"O Benfica oficializou, em comunicado dirigido à Comissão do Mercado de Valores Mobiliários (CMVM), nesta quarta-feira, a transferência do central argentino Ezequiel Garay para o Zenit, numa operação que vai render apenas 2,4 milhões de euros aos cofres da Luz.



Ao contrário do que foi inicialmente noticiado, os seis milhões de euros não correspondem aos 40% que o Benfica detinha, mas sim à totalidade da transferência, confirma a Agência EFE.

Assim, o Real Madrid vai receber três milhões de euros e o Benfica Stars Fund 600 mil euros, detalha a Agência EFE. O Benfica, recorde-se, pagou 5,5 milhões de euros por Garay e encaixou 1,175 milhões pela alienação de 10% do passe no mesmo ano."


Translating the important part:

"Benfica made the Garay transfer to Zenit official with a CMVM stock exchange report this wednesday, in an operation that will only get 2,4 million euros to the club.

Contrary to what was recently reported, the six million euros don't correspond to the 40% that Benfica had, but to the total transfer value, reported the spanish agency EFE.

This way, Real Madrid will get 3 million euros, Benfica stars fund will get 600k euros."

Hope this settles it.

Thanks! Interesting.

 

[Sly]

Thanks! Interesting.

There was big unrest with Benfica fans because of this deal. The Garay thread in the Benfica forum was full of insults towards their president. There is a pattern in some deals made by him. Selling or loaning players to clubs that are either building stadiums or football related infrastructures since he has a big construction company. It was the case of loaning an argentine player Fariñas to a club in the United Arab Emirates, loaning and selling players to Granada and Atlético Madrid among other examples. Dunno if he has some kind of interest in Zenit's new stadium for the russian WC. I would bet he does.
When you analyze the Benfica Garay deals (Benfica purchase from Real, the sale of a percentage to a fund ran by the BES bank and finally the sale to Zenit), you get to the conclusion that Benfica had a net loss of 1.9 million euros. Which is puzzling in a player that was arguably the best center back in Portugal, a starter in the Argentina team and a player who was attracting interest from Bayern, United and even Barcelona in the end. Of course most of the Benfica fans suspect some kind of foul play in this deal.

 

[Ødegaard]

He is an upgrade on Buttner as an actual left-back option.
And he is decent enough for us to have a squad-position while having the raw talent there to become world class (don't think it's likely at all though).
I said it before, before our summer-transfers, we had Buttner & Evra on the left-back position, now we have Shaw, Rojo & Blind, there is no need to moan about that at all.

We needed a leader as a centreback, yes, and we still do, but we did need more numbers at CB after losing Ferdinand & Vidic while the rest of the lot are all injury prone. And we still needed another left-back, so Rojo wasn't a bad move for us at all, just not the only one we needed.

 

[RedMachine03]

Got the ball but the player as well

 

[Nighteyes]

And another one bites the dust.

 

[RedMachine03]

McNair and Blackett to start the next game?

 

[Raoul]

Looks like a dislocated shoulder - probably out for 6 weeks at least.

 

[rOnaldo[7]]

Looks like a dislocated shoulder - probably out for 6 weeks at least.

 

[Raoul]

He was holding his shoulder, so it could well be. Didn't look like a minor niggle.

 

[Pexbo]

He was holding his shoulder, so it could well be. Didn't look like a minor niggle.

My initial thoughts were collar bone.

 

[spontaneus1]

Looks like a dislocated shoulder - probably out for 6 weeks at least.

 

[DevilRed]

And the curse continues. Ridiculous at this rate.

 

[Eugenius]

He's a fecking nutter. Far too rash.

 

[Cutch]

A bit of a stupid way to get injured. Had no need to go sliding in like that. Was like somethin Phil Jones would be at

 

[Baxter]

A very good passer, but he seems worryingly shite at actual defending and his injury about summed it up.

 

[Ekeke]

Injured himself going in recklessly ala Jones. Could have been worse, should have been sent off for the clear penalty on Toure. Did make one or two good blocks at times, in between costly mistakes

 

[Sly]

Unlucky United and Rojo. Rojo's only "serious" injury in his Sporting career was also in the shoulder. He got injured against Benfica and missed two games.

 

[FromTheBench]

Not sure he should be starting for us tbh if all our fit. (Not that will ever happen.)

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

This guy isn't a central defender. Buy two quality centre backs and this guy will be nothing more than backup to Luke.

 

[Devil may care]

He looked out of it on the stretcher, what do they put in those canisters? Shame he's injured but what the hell was he doing? Him and Jones will hurt themselves more often than they get injured by someone else with that type of play.

 

[Rykker_4united]

He is a good defender but he didn't need to slide out like that. Its a shame he's been hurt now, he was deservedly a mainstay in our team.

 

[Lynk]

He looked out of it on the stretcher, what do they put in those canisters?

Oxygen?

 

[NoWinNoFee]

Played well against both City and Chelsea, hope he's not out for too long.

 

[Devil may care]

Oxygen?

I didn't use a smiley but it was meant to be a joke, he kinda looked high as they carried him off.

 

[ZDwyr]

Shame about the injury, we need the bodies.

 

[MarcRed96]

Haven't been impressed by him at all and I thought he was really poor today. Shame about the injury though.

 

[Ekeke]

Played well against both City and Chelsea, hope he's not out for too long.

Good one

 

[thepolice123]

Got the ball but the player as well

Not a pen. He definitely got the ball first and Yaya dived. He was lucky the ref was close and got a good view. On another day it could easily have pen.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Looked like a dislocated shoulder, hopefully nothing too serious than that.

 

[Raoul]

Van Gaal said his shoulder is out (according to NBC Sports).

 

[The Law of Denis]

I'm really worried about his lack of composure when defending. He always seems in such panic.

 

[Dyslexic Untied]

I thought he was decent before the injury

 

[Ekeke]

Not a pen. He definitely got the ball first and Yaya dived. He was lucky the ref was close and got a good view. On another day it could easily have pen.

Tackle from behind. Cant do it, denied a goalscoring chance.

Wish it wasn't but it was a clear penalty

 

[Brophs]

I didn't really think he looked all that during the WC and I've seen nothing to shake that belief. Hopefully I'm wrong, though.

 

[Isotope]

He was excellent as LB in WC. I thought LvG bought him because of his fetish with 3 CB system early on, which Rojo would be suited in that system as LCB.

Agreed that we shouldn't buy him as our CB 'savior', though.