The rocky period I think will come regardless of where he plays. He has a mistake in him and it is very likely it will lead to a goal or two against. And he has a red card in him too by the sound of it.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 26
- Clean sheets
- 8
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 6
How did he play tonight then? I gather he was at left back, for the brief period I saw of the game I heard the commentator say that he had quietly had a good game.
And about a dozen yellows per year
Van Gaal will definitely have to work on that typical latin fire (mental note for card bet when he plays either Diego Costa or Joey Barton).His passing and composure is already way better than any of our CB's. He will appear a great player compared to them.
Doesn't matter if he plays at LB for the national team. Ramos played at RB for the majority of his Spanish career to accommodate Pique and Puyol, the latter played at RB till about his mid 20s, Hoewedes plays at LB for Germany, Thuram at RB for France despite being one of the best CBs of his generation even at Parma and so forth. Rojo's primary position is at CB, that's where he's played for his clubs till now and that's where he'll play at United for the vast majority of games.
Just watched the post match analysis and they all thought he had a poor game.
By that logic we have no idea where Van Gaal will play any of our signings, even Falcao or Herrera because we aren't Van Gaal. Rojo is 100% a centre back, I'm not sure why you don't believe everyone else here. Just like blind is definitely a defensive midfielder. No maybe he's better here, no, he is a midfielder who can fill in at left back. You're saying maybe might be somewhere else, but it just isn't. Their best positions are centre back for rojo and defensive mid for Blind.
As for Shaw, he clearly rates him, just he wasn't fit in the first week. He's had a few press conferences since where he said how he's much improved in that regard and how he's now a role model in the dressing room. People took his one comment about not being fit enough yet too literally basically.
I watched it on and off, and he looked solid enough to me. Don't remember him making any bad mistakes and his passing looked crisp enough. Wasn't involved a huge amount in the attacking sense but that allowed Zabaleta to get forward more.
He looked fairly comfortable to me all game though.
He looked fairly comfortable to me all game though.
How did they get that conclusion they were 4-0 for 80 minutes weren't they and none of the goals were his fault. I didn't watch the full 90 minutes, maybe he gave the ball away a lot?
Not sure whether that was true or not at Sporting. But in this match he'd be worse in his passing than Evans and very equal to Jones.
I'm not sure mate, I didn't watch the full game either.
Same amount as Zabaleta. The issue I think was that it was very compressed in to the start of the game and then the very end of the game. So maybe it stayed on peoples memories.
Anybody saying he had a bad game are wrong though, at worst an average one but he was the most imposing defender on the pitch.
why does he cleary rate shaw? the biggest thing hes said about him was complaining about his fittness, he has been complementary about the work he did since, but making him train by himself is not a good sign when no other player had too.
i personally think blind is going to start at LB, as he has said he rates carrick, as praised him in his first press conference so will probably start when he he fit, an clearly rates Fletcher as made him vice captain.
as for rojo, if your saying he is defiantly going to start at cb ahead of other players ill trust you, but as i, like most united fans, have never seen the kid play center back, so literally i have no idea if he a CB or not.
all im saying is it isn't clear cut.
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Why? Jones has had a great average passing percentage in both his long and short passing this season and his short passing has been good for a while.
In this game Rojo had a low passing percentage and his misplaced passes were often the "error" types. Like I said I have no clue how he did at Sporting with his passing, but in this game it was worse than what Jones has performed this year.
In my opinion i think Rojo is a better passer than Jones. Some people are forgetting that Rojo has barely played this season. He´s clearly lacking match routine and needs game time to improve his form.
The comment I made was that in this game Rojo's passing was below the quality of a Jones performance - as a response to people asking how he played.
I understood. What i said might also serve an excuse for that.
Of course of course. It is a good excuse, I said it earlier as well when making a longer comment about his performance that another reason he looked a bit poor was that he seemed unused to the LB position.
The first 5-10 minutes he looked really off the mark and started off sloppy with his passing. Then he caught up and played great football until Argentina were already 4-0 up.
He looked decent tonight. As @Sly points out; he's bound to be a bit rusty.
What position was he playing?
Left back, had a quiet game, which I suppose is what you want from your defender.
If Rojo can do a decent job as a LB and Jones can do a decent job as a RB, I think we should line up with Smalling and Evans at CB and we would have a very solid back line that can do a decent enough job in attack as well, they wouldn't be any worse than Valencia and Young as wing back (2/37 cross completed).
Jones----Smalling----Evans----Rojo
Jones----Smalling----Evans----Rojo
No no no none of this CB at fullback stuff again. We have Rafael and Shaw, lets use them.
Look I love Rafael to bits, 1 of my favourite utd player and wears his heart on his sleeve no doubt but he does get caught out of position at times and we can't allow that this season to be honest, as for Shaw I'm not buying into the hype around this kid, hes a top talent no doubt but 1 for the future. All I'm saying is would it work, would it be solid, because if it is then it what we need.
I'm not going to get into this.
I've seen it too many times. It irritates the shit out of me. Play fullbacks at fullback.
You wont find a sentence with more sense and truth than this one. No Jones/Evans/Smalling as fullbacks ever again.
Has Rojo got his work permit, or whatever it is that's holding things up, yet? (Sorry, too lazy to read back through the thread)
Good news and bad then, would it be something else if Anderson did suddenly kick on having a more mobile, comfortable partner, next to him.
So he still hasn't got his permit. I don't see how including him in the PL squad suggests "they think Rojo will get a work permit". Were we going to pay, what? £16m for him then not include him regardless?
Put it this way, I would rather have Rojo at LWB than Young or James at present. He is no doubt going to be a great LCB for us, but if Shaw isn't available he looks comfortable enough to slot in.
I liked that he seemed comfortable on the ball. He was happy to dribble and pass on the move, even doing step overs at 1 point into the box.
Obviously for a CB that's a low priority, but for a ball playing CB it is important to not be fazed by the ball.
I liked that he seemed comfortable on the ball. He was happy to dribble and pass on the move, even doing step overs at 1 point into the box.
Obviously for a CB that's a low priority, but for a ball playing CB it is important to not be fazed by the ball.
I've no idea if this guy is genuine, but sure he claimed Falcao had failed medical and would need to be re-evaluated the next day...
Meant to say that Rojo recently followed that guy on twitter, so he might know something.
Hopefully! He just seemed a little suss to me, though aren't they all on Twitter!