Has he got his work permit yet?
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 26
- Clean sheets
- 8
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 6
Not a great match. Germany should have scored from one bad mistake and he does not appear to hurry back into position when caught.
In general I would say he looks quite comfortable on the ball for a (supposed) centre back though. And he does appear to have the tools to be a top player... looks like plenty of work to do though.
ADM is top class.
In general I would say he looks quite comfortable on the ball for a (supposed) centre back though. And he does appear to have the tools to be a top player... looks like plenty of work to do though.
ADM is top class.
95% of his games were as CB in a 4 man defence with either Maurício or Dier as CB partners.
Conceded twice, any of them his fault?
He´s doing okay. You can see that he´s kinda "rusty" and needing a run of games. Some lack of playing rhythm
Watch again or see his stats post match
Neither. First one a Romero fumble and the 2nd deflected off of Fernandes
Why the supposed? He´s a center back primarily. Yeah like i said in my previous assessments, alot of work for Van Gaal there but i think he can become a very useful player for United.
No. He does look like he'd do better as a CB though. Like someone say the only negative thing with him in this match has been getting back in position doing a sprint rather than jogging back.
Still been great defensively overall with a lot of tackles/clearances.
The lad is a monster on one-on-one's. So fecking strong.
Supposed because I need to see with my own eyes his capabilities to play there at the top level. Different for you obviously as you are much more familiar with him as a player and in his preferred position. On the surface of things he doesn't look like your typical CB really, not a safe player... might just need a year or two more as seems to be developing.
Nope. He started a bit nervous as he hasn't played in a while. Then on, he's looked very strong. Powerful tackler.
Yep, he´s a very good man marker like i said. It will be a shame if Van Gaal just pushes him for another LB adaptation. Rojo needs to play as CB to take advantage of his full potencial.
I always assumed that was the idea
He will be playing 3 centre backs and rojo will be one of them
it is slietly concerning me we have bought 3 players whose best psotion seems to be left back :s
In a back three he'll be LCB or maybe even CB. He's so strong and has a good spring on him. This may be a Vidic like signing.
I've looked at him specifically most of the match to get to know him more and I have the stats open as well. He has similar statistics as Zabaleta and higher passing accuracy than Di Maria.
Like I said in the first minutes he went down a lot in passing accuracy but I think he's worked his way up. Last few mins he has gone down though slightly from being quite impressive in his passing statistics to "just" as good as Zabaleta.
Overall I think he's done well in possession and off it, even if I think he looks more comfortable as a CB.
His best position is CB. He played the whole of last season as a CB for Sporting and had a good season as well.
Why do you say that? For me he has all the caractheristics of a CB. What doesn´t really inspire me is his LB adaptations. I don´think he will need that much time. I think 6 months to a year under Van Gaal at the english competitive level will make him raise his game and evolve.
No, blind plays best as holding midfielder, rojo is centre back. We only have shaw as a proper all out left back
Rojo best is as a CB, Blind as a DM.
Rojo with another piece of good play. He's going to be great for us. I just know it.
not True
Daley's best position is in midfield. He has played there the last 2 years for Ajax and won Dutch footballer of the year playing there. He was used a let back at the WC because Holland had no other suitable player in this position.
Rojo's best position is cb according to people who actually seen him regularly.
Blind won footballer of the year as a defensive midfielder while as a left back he was only average for them. Rojo was at his best always at center back for Sporting as well. They all can play at left back so it's good to have cover, but would you say Smalling or Jones are right backs? No.
yet both played left back in world cup, and have spend a lot of thier career prior to last year playing left back.... i hope your right....but as hardly anyone on this forum has seen rojo play center back.... and is just hoping.... and van gaal seems to like blind as a LB.... ill wait to judge for myself, but i hope your all right!
Have we? who?
Angel Di Maria dazzled with one goal and three assists as Argentina beat Germany 4-2 tonight. Fellow #new boy Marcos Rojo also played.
9:42pm - 3 Sep 14
I think this sums it up quite well (from the manutd.com twitter account)
9:42pm - 3 Sep 14
I think this sums it up quite well (from the manutd.com twitter account)
If anyone sees a match compilation uploaded of either Rojo or di Maria, please post it!
Was he any good tonight?
I see some confusion in posts from some United supporters. Rojo is a CB period. He was a CB in the youth ranks and clearly prefers to play as CB. At Spartak he played some games as LB but i´ve read multiple interviews saying that he feels more comfortable and prefers to play as CB. Of course it doesn´t mean he can´t play as LB (as shown in the argentinian national team) but at Sporting he was always a priority for the CB position. The LB adaptation was more of stop-gap solution due to suspensions or injuries. Since we had very reliable LB´s when he was here (Insúa and Jefferson), he barely played there. When he did, he didn´t inspire me much trust. Of course the circunstancies at Sporting and Argentina are clearly different. Perhaps with United he can be more efficient in that adaptation (like in the argentinian national team).
They played left back since their countries had no other options there and they are versatile. But Sly and other Portuguese posters have seen rojo ever week, he almost exclusively plays center back. Very rarely does he play left back.
Blind's agent said that van gaal told him he'd start in defensive midfield, somewhere where van gaal has played him before for the national team too. It's nothing to do with waiting and seeing, they are all versatile but primarily play in other positions.
I think Blind has shown his best form as a midfield anchorman. He played left back for the Dutch because they had almost literally noone else to turn to... hence Kuyt, and Buttner being cheesed off at not being selected.
Similar for Rojo and Argentina really. Only playing left back to fill a gap. The difference with Rojo is he shone in that position and it seems likely that for Argentina he will be a fixture there.
Sigh... you just don't give up do you? He's a DM. Van Gaal has also said he's a midfielder. Why did he play LB at WC? Because there's no one else good enough tactically in the Netherlands who could play that role.
As for "most of their careers" - Blind only played LB at first as cover for Boilesen when he was injured. He came through the ranks as at Ajax as a midfielder. So no, he hasn't played most of his career as a LB.
Rojo has played LB at Estudiantes, but he didn't play much at Spartak and at Sporting he's played CB for two seasons.
He had shady first and last 10 minutes and the rest of the 70 he played really well. Shady as in he misplaced a few passes and ended up with the same passing percentage as Zabaleta.
Strong in the tackle, clearances and defensive play in general.
you maybe right... or maybe simply van gaal likes blind thier... dosnt rate shaw(complaing about his fittness), and does rate Fletcher(hense making him vice captain) and carrick(bigging him up in first press conference)
as for rojo... no idea, like most people ive never seen him play CB so no idea wat he's like, seems like an okay LB but thats all i know
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Why? Because he looks short on composure and positional discipline which are vital for a CB. And conversely because he has more ability on the ball than the majority of CBs at least in England.. But the two attributes mentioned come more from top level game time than anything so am encouraged and I am sure LVG also is as I am sure he feels he can polish what looks to me like a rough diamond.
I expect a rocky period with the fans here though...
do you have a quote for his agent?
and it is wait and see, becuase we may end up with one playing left back and the other 2 not getting in the team... we don't know!
give up? ive hardly said anything... just that it worrying that we may have bough 3 players whose primary position maybe left back... we have no idea what van gaal has planned.
he may not rate shaw so has bought blind and rojo for that position... and to fill in other postions... we simply dont no were just guessing... and speculating... wats wrong with that?
It is wrong simply because Blind played most of last season in midfield and Rojo played most of last season at centre back. So it seems like a world cup biased stretch to suggest that either's best position is left back. It would also make no sense for us to buy them all if this were the case and LVG is not lacking in sense.
Composure i agree, i´ve said that from the start but i don´t have many complaints about his positional discipline. I mean i had complaints in his first year at Sporting but at the second year, fully settled and under the guidance of a very tactically strict manager, he corrected that flaw (still prone to the occasional lapses). He was our best defender and him, Maurício and William complemented each other very well, which shows tactical awareness and good positional sense. From the CB´s i´ve known at Sporting, he possessed some important attributes that you need for any ecletic CB pairing. He´s a very good man marker, he has the physical tools needed for that position and is very strong on the aerial game (both ends of the pitch). I think his game is suited for english football.
He will have a rocky period if Van Gaal uses him at LB adapted position. If he gets a decent runs of games as CB and settles i sense that he will become a fan favourite. The type of game he plays, strong, aggressive, no nonsense CB type, is usually very popular in the english game.