Manchester United vs. Stoke City

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That's a good point, we always came back last season, maybe that trait is back.

RVP turned losses and draws into wins. That was last season in a sentence. Maybe we were always going to struggle if we wanted to pretend that would work again.
 
Yes, the players were very poor but saying Moyes has done everything right today is quite frankly bullshit.

He deserves a lot of credit. It wasn't working and he changed it.

Had he not he'd have been torn apart.

Can't win with some fans it seems.
 
Yeah, there's a definite effort to make it seem Moyes has taken over Barca and turned them into Stoke.

The defence was much better last season, that's certainly a key point as well. But we had Vidic and Rio much more consistently. Moyes has got to make a back 4 that works without them.
 
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