Manchester United Vs Leeds United

Kuszczak
Neville Brown Vidic Fábio
Obertan Carrick Scholes Welbeck
Berbatov Owen
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Subs: Foster; Rafael, de Laet; Anderson, Park, Giggs; Rooney​

Maybe Foster will get a chance to start a game again here, but on merit it has to be Kuszczak. Evra should get a rest, but him being taken off against Wigan could suggest otherwise. I'd like to see Valencia and Fletcher rested, as well as Rooney but keep him on the bench just in case.

Manchester United 2-0 Dirty Leeds
Berbatov
Brown
 
FAO AUSSIES

can anyone tell me WHY the feck sentanta are not showing it live at 12am when the west ham vs arsenal match is live at 3am :confused: :mad: ??

1st airing 1:30 am Football: Man Utd vs Leeds

live West Ham vs Arsenal
Live coverage of the FA Cup 3rd clash between London rivals West Ham and Arsenal. K.O 3:15am EDT.
 
Last time we meet

Howard, Gary Neville, O'Shea, Silvestre (Brown 24), Fortune, Kleberson (Keane 58), Butt, Phil Neville (Solskjaer 71), Scholes, van Nistelrooy, Giggs.

Carson, Kelly, Caldwell, Matteo, Domi, McPhail, Seth Johnson, Bakke, Pennant, Milner (Sakho 73), Smith.

and ofcourse; before that


 
Nah, it aint live. Saw an ad today for Setanta in the Age sport section saying explicitly that the game was on delayed broadcast.
 
we are a 3rd division side FFS

Not for long, you are absolutely dominating what is probably the most competitive League 1 ever. Norwich, Charlton, Southampton, some big clubs down there and clubs like Colchester, MK Dons, Millwall and Huddersfield have a lot of quality aswell.

I don't think SAF will be underestimating this one, for me Leeds are better than your average championship side. What's the most you've conceded in one game this season ? 2 ? I'd be surprised if we score more than 2 tomorrow.
 
Bah... for some reason I was under the impression that it was today.

Woke up early (considering my cocked up temporal rhythm these days) all gleeful and shit, only to find that there's no United game on today.

Bugger.
 
half teams in both for me, cant afford to lose either


beckford seems to disappear In big games, becchio seems to be an argentinian Emile Heskey whenever I see them

definately agree on the other two though

I agree. I know a strong side will play tomorrow but I don't want to see a team full of kids against Shitty, we musn't allow them to put us out of a cup competition just before a final. fecking t-shirts and mugs will be flying everywhere around the council house.
 
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Rafael---Nev--------Brown----Evra

Obertan--Fletch-----Anderson---Park

----------Rooney----Berba----------

gotta keep the rooney Berba partnership going, may need a bit more creativity in midfield but will allow Anderson to shine.

The likes of scholes and Giggs will play against shitty
 
I agree. I know a strong side will play tomorrow but I don't want to see a team full of kids against Shitty, we musn't allow them to put us out of a cup competition just before a final. fecking t-shirts and mugs will be flying everywhere around the council house.
Precisely. I'd rather play the kids against Leeds.
 
Precisely. I'd rather play the kids against Leeds.

I wouldn't play the kids in either match, well not an entire line-up of kids. It's okay playing the young lads if there's a mixture of experience as well. For example, if you play Gibson in midfield then play Fletch beside him and if you play Welbeck/Macheda up front, you play Rooney or Berbatov alongside as well. There always must be experience in every part of the pitch.
 
A draw at OT would be a major failure on MU's part.
 
Wish it had one or two of this lot in it....;)

Sprake, Reaney, Cooper, Bremner, Charlton, Madeley, Hunter, Lorimer, Clarke, Jones, Giles, E Gray

Bremner and Giles would certainly get under the OT crowd's skin and make the game interesting.
 
I wouldn't play the kids in either match, well not an entire line-up of kids. It's okay playing the young lads if there's a mixture of experience as well. For example, if you play Gibson in midfield then play Fletch beside him and if you play Welbeck/Macheda up front, you play Rooney or Berbatov alongside as well. There always must be experience in every part of the pitch.

Agreed. A blend of youth and experience is ideal for these Cup matches.
 
A draw would be a disgrace and Leeds fans would be overjoyed, surely.

I'd be chuffed with a draw and it would show just how far Grayson has taken us forward....the extra cash would come in handy too.


Bremner and Giles would certainly get under the OT crowd's skin and make the game interesting.

2 of my fav ever players....I loved that team. Great memories.
 
I agree. I know a strong side will play tomorrow but I don't want to see a team full of kids against Shitty, we musn't allow them to put us out of a cup competition just before a final. fecking t-shirts and mugs will be flying everywhere around the council house.

It's hollow if they beat a reserve/youth side. Let them gloat over a CC win as they'll probably feck up in the final anyhow. It's two less matches for the first team to worry about, and potentially a final when United are in the tail-end of a league title push, probable FA Cup run and most likely a grueling CL haul. Besides, the onus would be on City's first team to defeat United's reserves/youngsters. If they fecked that up they'd be a laughing stock. Seeing as how United's reserves/youngsters held Everton last season, I don't see why they can't hold City.

FA Cup > Carling Cup

United playing youngsters in a second rate competition > City playing first team in dire need to win something of note this generation
 
Meet the Ref:

Chris Foy (Merseyside): The appointment of a Select Group official was a certainty for this fixture and Foy is one of the country's more experienced top-flight referees.

He handled Leeds once last season during their 2-1 defeat at Northampton Town and he has taken charge of two matches involving Manchester United this term.

The first was their Charity Shield match against Chelsea and the second a Carling Cup tie at Barnsley, where Foy sent off Gary Neville.
 
Leeds hoping for blast from the past against Manchester United


Rick Broadbent
From The Times
January 2, 2010


SOURCE: Leeds hoping for blast from the past against Manchester United at Old Trafford | Football - Times Online

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Gary Edwards is a decorator who refuses to use red paint. His business card offers a discount to remove the stuff and he once took it upon himself to whitewash all the bus shelters in the village of Kippax. :lol::lol: It may be the zealous end of the rivalry between Leeds United and Manchester United, but there is no glossing over the bitterness and violence that have marked decades of mutual loathing. :wenger:

Leeds head back to Old Trafford in the FA Cup third round tomorrow as a cadaverous relic of their former self. Eight years ago to the day, Mark Viduka scored twice against West Ham United to send Leeds to the top of the Premier League. Then came the implosion, the relegations, the takeovers and the 25 docked points.

But is there a way back? Simon Grayson’s vibrant team look certainties to be promoted back to the Coca-Cola Championship this season, long-dormant optimism is returning and Elland Road has even been included in the World Cup bid. “I think they will go straight through the leagues to the Premiership,” Brian Flynn, the Wales youth coach, said.

Flynn has a special place in Leeds folklore as he was the last man to score a winning goal for the club at Old Trafford, back in 1981. “I am still living off that now,” he said. “The young lads in the Welsh squad think I’m some grandad, but I tell them to go and have a look on YouTube. Kevin Hird knocked the ball to Carl Harris and I just outsprinted Ray Wilkins. I still get stopped for my autograph and they always ask me to put ‘Old Trafford winner’ in brackets.”

Nostalgia has never been a thing of the past while Leeds have struggled, but can this crop of players revive the comatose giant? Grayson is a good young manager, marinated in common sense and beef dripping, and there is a smattering of good-quality players headed by Scotland Under-21 winger Robert Snodgrass, but Leeds will surely need to spend big to make significant progress.

There has also been a long-running debate about who owns the club. Last year started with Ken Bates, the chairman, telling the Royal Court of Jersey that he jointly owned Forward Sports Fund, the holding company registered in the Cayman Islands. Later, in a sworn affidavit, Bates said that was “not correct” and an “error on my part”. The Football League asked for clarification over Leeds’s owners. That was delivered in a letter before Christmas, but the identities of the owners will not be made public.

Leeds fans are inured to complex dealings in the boardroom. That stems back to the way Peter Ridsdale, the chairman, gambled the club’s future on Champions League qualification. Then in 2007 Bates put the club into administration. He bought it back but failed to agree a Company Voluntary Agreement and Leeds were docked 15 points on top of the ten they had been docked the previous season.

Questions were raised about the links between Forward Sports Fund and one of the creditors, Astor Investments, which agreed to write off a £17.6 million debt if Forward bought the club. Meanwhile, fronting a Middle Eastern consortium came Don Revie’s son, Duncan, who said: “Money is not a problem; my problem is can I recreate my dad’s team?” Another bid came in from Simon Morris, a former director. The day after Leeds play Manchester United, Morris is due in court where he is charged with conspiracy to blackmail a man over a £100,000 debt.

Bates prevailed and the fans appear unconcerned by matters in the boardroom. Lee Hicken, of the Leeds United Supporters Trust, said: “The main thing is we’re doing well on the pitch. The rest will sort itself out. Simon Grayson says he’s never been turned down when he has asked for money.”

Such ambivalence is born of seeing and hearing it all. In 2003, Leeds fans heard one former executive claim that he had been involved in a plot to lace Michael Duberry’s food with cocaine and hire a hitman to break Gary Kelly’s legs. The alleged motive for such Mafioso madness was to reduce the wage bill. Alongside such horror stories, Bates is widely seen to have done a decent job.

There have been terrace rumours about him being prepared to offload the club, but that may be no easy task. Professor Tom Cannon, a football finance expert from the University of Liverpool, said: “If you can’t sell Newcastle United while they were in the Premiership then it’s hard to see there being a long queue to buy Leeds. My guess is, outside the top four of the Premiership, every club is for sale, but there are not many buyers.”

Cannon also thinks precedents will dissuade investors. “If you’re a UK investor, you might look at Mike Ashley as someone who had a lot of money and then lost a lot of money while picking up a lot of opprobrium on the way. If you’re American, you’re not going to be enthralled by the welcome given to Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Nobody is making much money and people are thinking, ‘Why should I take the risk?’ ”

As for one day gaining promotion to the Premier League, Leeds are now reduced to the level of football paupers. “Most clubs in the frame for promotion will have the benefit of parachute payments and a more recent Premiership pedigree,” Cannon said. “Newcastle have a minimum £11 million from that so the £750,000 Leeds will make from this cup-tie is peanuts.”

Leeds made a profit of £4.5 million in the last financial year but are scarcely flushed with cash. They did receive £6 million from the sale of Fabian Delph to Aston Villa in August, but that equates to the annual wage bill, while it costs a further £1.9 million to rent Elland Road and the Thorp Arch training ground. A move to buy back Thorp Arch from businessman Jacob Adler for £5.8 million, with the help of city council funds, collapsed in October.

For the moment Leeds fans do not care. The trip to Old Trafford may be passport to the past and a glimpse at the future, but it is a rare day in the spotlight and a rivalry renewed. Edwards has not missed a league or cup game in 23 years and is old enough to remember when Leeds would beat Manchester United. Even when the club was in the red, he kept the faith. “I remember when Fergie got his knighthood. I took the picture of the Queen down from my wall and stuck her in a cupboard. I complained and got a letter back from the Palace saying it was Tony Blair’s fault. Eventually the Queen went back up. Right up until she gave Beckham his OBE.”

Old hostilities will be exhumed at Old Trafford but Flynn’s fable looks sure to endure. Edwards will not be painting the town red tomorrow and anyone who thinks the glory days are coming back soon might gain an undercoat of perspective from noting that Leeds’ next cup-tie is the first leg of a Northern area final of the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy against Carlisle United.


The ten-year itch


Top of Premier League, Jan 1, 2000

Leeds United P20, 44pts
Manchester United P19, 43pts
Arsenal P20, 39pts
Sunderland P20, 38pts
Liverpool P20, 37pts
 
FAO AUSSIES

can anyone tell me WHY the feck sentanta are not showing it live at 12am when the west ham vs arsenal match is live at 3am :confused: :mad: ??

1st airing 1:30 am Football: Man Utd vs Leeds

live West Ham vs Arsenal
Live coverage of the FA Cup 3rd clash between London rivals West Ham and Arsenal. K.O 3:15am EDT.

Cos of the Old Firm clash.

Absolutely fecking livid.

Where can we watch it online?
 
Just realised we're on our longest run without an FA Cup under Fergie! Sort it out lads!
 
Leeds hoping for blast from the past against Manchester United


Rick Broadbent
From The Times
January 2, 2010


SOURCE: Leeds hoping for blast from the past against Manchester United at Old Trafford | Football - Times Online

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Gary Edwards is a decorator who refuses to use red paint. His business card offers a discount to remove the stuff and he once took it upon himself to whitewash all the bus shelters in the village of Kippax. :lol::lol:

Gary's written a couple of very good books...

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