Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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I think we need at least 13 new players.

But honestly, a right back is a must, as is another midfielder. Memphis has already been secured and he's an important signing. All other acquisitions aren't mandatory IMO - we might get a center half but only if he represents significant improvement over Jones, Smalling and Rojo. We might get a forward but staying with the line of Rooney, van Persie and Wilson won't be a tragedy. If De Gea leaves (I think he will) we should probably get a goalkeeper. I don't think we need major overhaul at all.

Definitely. Three more quality signings and De Gea staying would be perfect in my opinion. Talk of 6, 7 or 8 first team players coming in is ridiculous, the last thing we need is another season fighting it out for 4th because half the team is adapting to a new League.

In a perfect world:

De Gea / Valdez
Carvajal / Rafael or Valencia
Smalling / Jones
Godin / Rojo
Shaw / Blind
Carrick / Schweinsteiger
Herrera / Fellaini
Mata / Januzaj
Di Maria / Young
Depay / Nani
Rooney / RVP / Wilson

To me that is a team that without major injuries competes for the title. Possibly allow Januzaj to go on loan and use Pereira as a backup attacking midfielder.

Get rid of either Valencia or Rafael, Evans, Lindegaard, Powell.
 
Rooney / RVP / Wilson

I understand to many changes can rock the boat, but going into next season with them as strikers is as much suicide as buying another striker.
As for the rest, the team would be fine if we played a 4231, but if we play a 433, then we have 4 midfielders for 3 spots, unless you want Rooney in midfield again, of course
 
I understand to many changes can rock the boat, but going into next season with them as strikers is as much suicide as buying another striker.
As for the rest, the team would be fine if we played a 4231, but if we play a 433, then we have 4 midfielders for 3 spots, unless you want Rooney in midfield again, of course

We'd have Herrera, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Fellaini, Mata, Blind who are all central midfielders with Pereira who will hopefully play a bigger role. I also think Januzaj is naturally a number 10 so that'd be 8 players for 3 positions. The fact that the majority are versatile also helps.

I also don't buy that Rooney, RVP & Wilson wouldn't be perfectly fine. Chelsea stormed the league with Costa, Remy and a 37 year old Drogba.
 
@Igor Drefljak

The team that I do not want to support is one that buys 6 or 7 new players everytime we go a season without winning something. That's what I meant.

I agree that we need several new additions to the team, think you just misunderstood what I meant
 
Stop bringing in so many players, let the 2015 team gel a bit.

we'll be short players mate. falcao gone , players coming back or not from loans it wouldn't be the same team either way - the squad would be faffed over. need at least 4-5 just to cover players leaving let alone improvements to the side.
 
So.......

RB - Dani Alves
CB - Otamendi
#6 - Schweinsteiger
#8 - Gundogan
ST/WF - ??????

That would be roughly £65-70M before the forward purchase.
 
In terms of priority:
A right back
A central midfielder in his prime (mid 20s)
A backup for Carrick
Another central midfielder backup
A centre back (preferably Laporte)

I don't want a new GK regardless of what De Gea does. Valdes with Johnstone on the bench is good enough for me.

I would also try and get rid of Rooney and get a proper number nine in, but unfortunately that is not going to happen. More tippy-tappy in front of packed defences and our lone striker and captain breaking down every single decent move we make.
3 CMs? That would have us with Carrick, 3 new CMs, Blind, Herrera, Fellaini and maybe Pereira. That's 7-8 players when one of those CM positions can be filled by Mata/Di Maria.
 
Looking at players are under contract with us next season:

De Gea, Lindegaard, Valdes, Johnstone

Rafael, Shaw, Valencia, Blackett

Smalling, Evans, Rojo, Jones, McNair

Carrick, Blind, Herrera, Pereira, Fellaini

Mata, Di Maria, Young, Nani, Depay, Januzaj

Rooney, RVP, Wilson, Hernandez

Out of that I'd expect Hernandez, Evans,RVP and Lindegaard gone. Januzaj, McNair and Blackett out on loan. Bring in a striker to replace RVP, 2 CMs to start and add cover. Also, a RB and a CB. That's with me expecting RVP to stay. If Bale comes in then Nani's out.

So I have 5 players coming in outside of Depay. I'd be fine with no other striker coming in and RVP staying also.
 
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Now that the season is over, I hope big changes are made to this team.

In- Cech, Clyne, Hummels, Gundogan, Schniederlin, Bale, Benteke

Out- De Gea, Di Maria, Mata, Fellaini, Rafael, Young, Evans, Blackett

GK- Cech, Valdes
Full Backs- Clyne, Shaw, Valencia, Blind
Centre Backs- Hummels, Smalling, Jones, Rojo
Central Midfielders- Carrick, Schniederlin, Gundogan, Herrera
Wingers- Bale, Depay, Januzaj, Nani
Strikers- Rooney, Van Persie, Benteke, Wilson
 
How would you rate our summer signings if we ended up getting Cheque, Alves, Otamendi, Memphis and Gundogan?
 
Now that the season is over, I hope big changes are made to this team.

In- Cech, Clyne, Hummels, Gundogan, Schniederlin, Bale, Benteke

Out- De Gea, Di Maria, Mata, Fellaini, Rafael, Young, Evans, Blackett

GK- Cech, Valdes
Full Backs- Clyne, Shaw, Valencia, Blind
Centre Backs- Hummels, Smalling, Jones, Rojo
Central Midfielders- Carrick, Schniederlin, Gundogan, Herrera
Wingers- Bale, Depay, Januzaj, Nani
Strikers- Rooney, Van Persie, Benteke, Wilson

GK - Can't see Cech coming, but even if he did Valdes would'nt be keen playing second fiddle would he ?
FB's - Don't want Clyne, but as above Valencia would 'nt be happy as understudy to anyone at his age.
CB's - Would like to add Otamendi and use Rojo as FB cover instead of Blind.
CM - I agree (Blind can also play there)
Wingers - Januzai is'nt a winger, give ADM a season on the wing.
Strikers - I would really like a shake up here, no Rooney or RVP, Benteke may be worth a punt but I think we need a proven, proper number 9.
 
How would you rate our summer signings if we ended up getting Cheque, Alves, Otamendi, Memphis and Gundogan?

Need to add a striker.

Yep, throw in the striker and I'd rate it highly.

I wouldn't want us signing six players every summer by the way. But this needs to be the one that makes us strong enough to be only signing two or three players each summer from 2016.
 
This is my guess of realistic targets (I don't think there's any chance of Bale or Pogba coming or even Schwieni or Gundogan)
Ins
Cech, Van der Wiel, Otamendi, De Jong, Gaitan, Depay, Benteke

Out
Nani, Evans, Rafael, Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Chicarito etc
 
This is my guess of realistic targets (I don't think there's any chance of Bale or Pogba coming or even Schwieni or Gundogan)
Ins
Cech, Van der Wiel, Otamendi, De Jong, Gaitan, Depay, Benteke

Out
Nani, Evans, Rafael, Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Chicarito etc

No to all of these, why would we scrape the barrel like this? Some act like we are Everton or Spurs.
 
This is my guess of realistic targets (I don't think there's any chance of Bale or Pogba coming or even Schwieni or Gundogan)
Ins
Cech, Van der Wiel, Otamendi, De Jong, Gaitan, Depay, Benteke

Out
Nani, Evans, Rafael, Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Chicarito etc

:lol:
 
No to all of these, why would we scrape the barrel like this? Some act like we are Everton or Spurs.
Because Pogba, Bale, Gundogan, Muller and Schweini will more than likely not be available. Any one of those 5 would be awesome but I am not sure any of them will be available or coming to us. Di Maria was an exception last summer because Real didn't want him and PSG couldn't get him due to FFP so it's rare that we sign a world class superstar that everyone wants during the summer window unless all our main rivals in Europe are already well stocked in an area that a top class player has just become available in
 
This is my guess of realistic targets (I don't think there's any chance of Bale or Pogba coming or even Schwieni or Gundogan)
Ins
Cech, Van der Wiel, Otamendi, De Jong, Gaitan, Depay, Benteke

Out
Nani, Evans, Rafael, Van Persie, Falcao, Di Maria, Chicarito etc
Jesus christ no. De Jong for Christ sake, are people still on about him :lol: If he's not good enough for Milan, then I seriously doubt he would be good enough here.
 
Because Pogba, Bale, Gundogan, Muller and Schweini will more than likely not be available. Any one of those 5 would be awesome but I am not sure any of them will be available or coming to us. Di Maria was an exception last summer because Real didn't want him and PSG couldn't get him due to FFP so it's rare that we sign a world class superstar that everyone wants during the summer window unless all our main rivals in Europe are already well stocked in an area that a top class player has just become available in

That was under Fergie because he refused to pay the big money, LvG and Woody are totally different and will do what is needed. The club has barely gotten 4th, if we brought in the players you listed we'd be lucky to maintain that spot next season, they are actually inferior to what we already have. There's no reason we can't get Gundogan and Schweinsteiger if he chooses to leave Bayern.
 
How would you rate our summer signings if we ended up getting Cheque, Alves, Otamendi, Memphis and Gundogan?
Still without a genuine Carrick alternative meaning what happened over the last six games will happen more often as he becomes more injury prone with age.
 
If you think we're getting Bale, Gundogan and Pogba then you're an idiot. There's a small chance we may get Bale if Madrid want to get rid of him but I can't see them selling him despite what the Metro and caughtoffside say

If you think this club should be anywhere near the likes of De Jong or Van Der Viel then you are an idiot. Bale, Gundogan and Pogba are all attainable now with our revenues and income.
 
If you think this club should be anywhere near the likes of De Jong or Van Der Viel then you are an idiot. Bale, Gundogan and Pogba are all attainable now with our revenues and income.
That's what we said last year and not one of Bale, Ronaldo, Fabregas, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Hummels or Pogba came even though 70% on here were certain that we were going to sign at least 3 of those names. If a player is not available then no amount of sponsorship money can change that. We managed to get Di Maria last summer because he was available and we were the only ones that could afford him even though we were far from his first choice. I do believe we can sign a world star like Schweinsteiger this summer but there's no chance that who ever is in charge of Madrid is going to want to sell Bale or Ronaldo and there's no chance Pogba is coming back either
 
That was under Fergie because he refused to pay the big money, LvG and Woody are totally different and will do what is needed. The club has barely gotten 4th, if we brought in the players you listed we'd be lucky to maintain that spot next season, they are actually inferior to what we already have. There's no reason we can't get Gundogan and Schweinsteiger if he chooses to leave Bayern.
There's no doubt the money is there for the big names but there's a very very very slim chance that any of the world stars that we will be after will be either available or will chose us over a club offering same wages in a better climate
 
There's no doubt the money is there for the big names but there's a very very very slim chance that any of the world stars that we will be after will be either available or will chose us over a club offering same wages in a better climate

The only clubs that I would worry about beating us to players now we are back in the CL is Real Madrid and Barcelona, you are talking like Manchester United is some nothing club.
 
So.......

RB - Dani Alves
CB - Otamendi
#6 - Schweinsteiger
#8 - Gundogan
ST/WF - ??????

That would be roughly £65-70M before the forward purchase.
This....

Realistic targets that would not cost the earth.

Bale would obviously be the icing on the cake but i dont think you could spend 70 mil more wisely than how you have listed here.
 
Laporte could become an option should Ota sign and we're looking for a 2nd CB. His release clause with the current exchange rate is £29.8m. He's too good of a talent for us not to be looking at him as a realistic option at that price.
 
So.......

RB - Dani Alves
CB - Otamendi
#6 - Schweinsteiger
#8 - Gundogan
ST/WF - ??????

That would be roughly £65-70M before the forward purchase.

I think that is very close to what we will actually end up with.
Never thought we had a chance at Bastian + Gundogan simultaneously though.
 
Bored today, so I've drawn-up the look of the squad I'd like to take into next season; nothing particularly insightful, but still boredom temporarily defeated. The best we've played recently was in the basic 4-3-3 formation, so I've stacked the squad up like that, with starters, back-ups and loan players that we could potentially callback when the inevitable injury crisis happens:

Key:

(Player) = Might leave against United's wishes/might allow the player to go if a decent offer came in.
<Player> = Loan-out (with contract extension if necessary).
Players not listed at all would leave (assuming I've not simpy forgotten someone).

(De Gea)/*New Signing*
Valdes
<Johnstone>​

--------------------------------*New Signing*--------Smalling----------*New Signing*---------Shaw
---------------------------------Valencia---------------Jones--------------Rojo------------------ -Blind
---------------------------------(Rafael)---------------<McNair>---------<Thorpe>--------------<Blackett>​

Carrick
*New Signing*
*New Signing*?

Herrera----------------Di Maria
Pereira----------------Fellaini

Mata----------------------------------Young
Januzaj----------------------------------Memphis
(Lingard)---------------------------------(Nani)

Rooney
(Chicharito)/*New Signing*
(RVP)/*New Signing*
<Wilson>​

The priority has to be to find a back-up to Carrick (possibly two, since we're so in need in that vital position). After that then it's right-back that we have to act on; I'd keep Rafael but it looks like he's off, and regardless we can't trust him to stay fit, so a first-choice starter needs to be sourced. Centre-back I'd like someone of the Vidic variety (in regard to toughness) to hopefully make us a bit more solid, closer to what Chelsea have shown this season. Thorpe looks to be off, but I like him so would keep him around for another season or two.

I think Chicharito has a role to play with us still - his speed and work-rate should be useful in the formation, which largely is about opening space for others to attack; the issue is if he's committed to the club, which I doubt at this stage. Letting either him or RVP go might make sense depending on offers and how they themselves feel about things, but they'd have to be replaced, so I'd be very reluctant to let both go - there don't seem to be many strikers available worth the effort this summer, but I'd say we still need a minimum of three to make the single striker formation work over a full season with European games of some sort.

Of course a lot of players can cover more than one position, but I'd then be looking at: i. a new Carrick, ii. a young Carrick, and iii. a right-back as definites; with potentially iv. a goalkeeper if/when DDG confirms he's off, v. a striker to replace Chicharito, vi. a striker to replace RVP.

Should be easy enough :angel:
 
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3 CMs? That would have us with Carrick, 3 new CMs, Blind, Herrera, Fellaini and maybe Pereira. That's 7-8 players when one of those CM positions can be filled by Mata/Di Maria.
I don't think that's excessive for the 433. Carrick is going to be phased our slowly, Fellaini should not be a first option in midfield, Blind may not be Carrick's successor and is also required to back up for Shaw, Pereira is young and probably needs more time before he can be trusted to be a regular starter, Mata would be wasted in CM and I don't think Van Gaal trusts Di Maria in that position. That leaves Herrera.
 
you could argue any of the positions need upgrading.

which is quite worrying after we lashed so much last season, seemingly without majorly improving any one position!
 
That's what we said last year and not one of Bale, Ronaldo, Fabregas, Schweinsteiger, Muller, Hummels or Pogba came even though 70% on here were certain that we were going to sign at least 3 of those names. If a player is not available then no amount of sponsorship money can change that. We managed to get Di Maria last summer because he was available and we were the only ones that could afford him even though we were far from his first choice. I do believe we can sign a world star like Schweinsteiger this summer but there's no chance that who ever is in charge of Madrid is going to want to sell Bale or Ronaldo and there's no chance Pogba is coming back either
People said that fabregas wouldn't leave Barca again when United were sniffing around. Clearly there was noises coming out of his camp that he was open to moving as Chelsea proved 1 year later. That's why there are agents. United can't afford to sit still, they need to aggressive in the market.
 


Given we need a number 6, is this lad worth considering. I liked him at the u21 Euros but have hardly seen him since that. Does he have the kind of potential that justify the large fee Madrid paid?

What say ye our resident la Liga experts?
 


Given we need a number 6, is this lad worth considering. I liked him at the u21 Euros but have hardly seen him since that. Does he have the kind of potential that justify the large fee Madrid paid?

What say ye our resident la Liga experts?


he's very ordinary, seems it have been signed entirely off the back of that u21 tournament
 
No Bale, get Otamendi for £25 million, then Schweinsteiger £10 m, Gundogan £20 m, and Alves free, flog a load of the fringe players for upwards of £30 million and it might not be that expensive this transfer window after all.
 
There is talk of LvG wanting all the business done early, before the tour if possible, how realistic will that be?

5 + players in the door inside 6 weeks or so just can't see it myself, which will be a pain because this season more then any other we need a settled squad early on.
 
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