Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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Well that's where Moyes said his natural position was and as the manager who brought him into the fold I tend to trust him (although I don't watch the academy to know for sure). He's been tried as a winger, a number 8 and a number 10, but I wouldn't say he was an out and out winger and certainly isn't a number 8.

In terms of our squad we have the following player's that can play in "midfield" (ie 6, 8 or 10) we have:

Carrick
Blind
Herrera
Fellaini
Rooney
Mata
Di Maria
Januzaj

Even if you discount Januzaj and class Rooney as solely a striker you're looking at 6 player's competing for 3 positions. We're more than covered.
The thing is though 6 of those players are currently in the first xi,while Di Maria is also likely to come into the team on the left next season.

Even if you assumed that Shaw will be Lb and Blind will return to midfield.That's 1 midfielder who can really cover only Carrick's position.

In the current system none of Di Maria,Mata or Januzaj are suitable replacements for Herrera or Fellaini,neither play as a 10.Rooney could but that's a waste to be honest.

If Fellaini or Herrera were to be injured I would argue that there is no in the squad who can fill there positions in the system.It's clear to me that we need to bring in at least 1 but probably 2 midfielders in the near future
 
@NL Max You mentioned there about how LvG sees the #10 role as very important, in that case are you predicting a CM to come in that will allow him to play Rooney there and Herrera and Fellaini both moving to the bench?
 
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The thing is though 6 of those players are currently in the first xi,while Di Maria is also likely to come into the team on the left next season.

Even if you assumed that Shaw will be Lb and Blind will return to midfield.That's 1 midfielder who can really cover only Carrick's position.

In the current system none of Di Maria,Mata or Januzaj are suitable replacements for Herrera or Fellaini,neither play as a 10.Rooney could but that's a waste to be honest.

If Fellaini or Herrera were to be injured I would argue that there is no in the squad who can fill there positions in the system.It's clear to me that we need to bring in at least 1 but probably 2 midfielders in the near future

United fans never stop amazing me.

You look at every other team in the league who have absolutely no replacements for their best player's, but have a great team (Chelsea for instance) but United need 2-3 great players for every position or we're short.

If Fellaini was injured we'd play Di Maria in his position. If Herrera was injured Rooney would drop back and RVP would start as the loan striker, or Blind would play there and do a fine job or Fellaini would replace him with Di Maria filling his role.

We have a hugely flexible midfield at the moment and I just can't understand people who think we're an injury away from a catastrophe.

We are far more covered in midfield than the likes of Chelsea who are one of the best teams in the world. If Matic gets injured they are looking at the likes of Mikel replacing him, likewise Fabregas and Ramires.

I also really want to know who these quality midfielders are who are willing to warm the bench when Fellaini and Herrera are in their current form.

In my opinion a midfielder should only be a priority if the right one becomes available. That's Pogba, Modric, Veratti quality, not the likes of Schneiderlin.
 
@NL Max You mentioned there about how LvG sees the #10 role as very important, in that case are you predicting a CM to come in that will allow him to play Rooney there and Herrera and Fellaini both moving to the bench?

His 10 has always been his most important role for attacking, but this is less the case when we play with the point backwards like we currently do. In a perfect van Gaal team (which can't exist, mind) all the attacks are starting/ending with the 10. In both cases of 433 (point forward or backward) he still always plays with a 6, 8 and 10. That's how he's always worked in his carreer and he's still doing so here.

As I see how it currently stands, we've got:
6: Carrick, Blind
8: Herrera, Rooney
10: Fellaini, Rooney, Mata, Di Maria

I don't say we're going to a buy a CM to bench either of Fellaini or Herrera, because they've been great. When Herrera gets injured/needs a rest we're in a spot of bother though. Since we're pretty lightweight on the defensive options I think he will want a midfielder so he can play Mata at 10 again. He likes multifunctional players and this would give him 2 options in midfield:

Fellaini-Carrick-Herrera and Mata/Rooney-Blind-CM. If he wants to play Mata at 10 (which I think is what he wants, Mata is a perfect van Gaal 10), he'll need to compensate by bringing in a defensively good 8. Mata isn't completely useless when it comes to defending mind, otherwise he'd never play in a van Gaal team since he defends as a team.

All I'm saying is this will give him more options to choose a balanced midfield, since he always wants 2 defensively good players there. Currently we've got a good first choice midfield, but no good backup for Herrera. Fellaini can be replaced, although not like-for-like. I think he will want the same with Herrera, a different option to choose at 8 who's not identical to him but more defensive.

This would mean Mata and Rooney are multifunctional, as is Blind and probably the new CM aswell (for 6). I think we'll mostly see Di Maria on the wing next season, his game isn't suited for a possesion based team in midfield (could be wrong on this).
 
Transfers:

IN:
Mats Hummels
Nathaniel Clyne
Memphis Depay
Morgan Schneiderlin
Alexandre Lacazette
Danny Ings

OUT:
Jonny Evans
Rafael
Radamel Falcao
Robin van Persie
Anders Lindegaard
Ben Amos
Javier Hernandez
Tom Cleverley
Andreas Pereira
Angelo Henriquez

Potential team:

1. de Gea

25. Valencia 12. Smalling 6. Hummels 17. Blind

16. Carrick
7. di Maria 21. Herrera 31. Fellaini 14. Depay

10. Rooney


Bench: 13. Valdes, 4. Jones, 2. Clyne, 15. Schneiderlin, 18. Young, 8. Mata, 9. Lacazette

Full Squad:

1. David de Gea
2. Nathaniel Clyne
3. Luke Shaw
4. Phil Jones
5. Marcos Rojo
6. Mats Hummels
7. Angel di Maria
8. Juan Mata
9. Alexandre Lacazette
10. Wayne Rooney
11. Adnan Januzaj
12. Chris Smalling
13. Victor Valdes
14. Memphis Depay
15. Morgan Schneiderlin
16. Michael Carrick
17. Daley Blind
18. Ashley Young
19. Nani
20. Danny Ings
21. Ander Herrera
22. Nick Powell
23. Jesse Lingard
25. Antonio Valencia
29. James Wilson
30. Axel Tuanzebe
31. Marouane Fellaini
33. Paddy McNair
34. Timothy Fosu-Mensah
36. Ben Pearson
37. Saidy Janko
38. Josh Harrop
39. Tom Thorpe
40. Joel Perreira
42. Tyler Blackett
45. Demetri Mitchell
 
United fans never stop amazing me.

You look at every other team in the league who have absolutely no replacements for their best player's, but have a great team (Chelsea for instance) but United need 2-3 great players for every position or we're short.

If Fellaini was injured we'd play Di Maria in his position. If Herrera was injured Rooney would drop back and RVP would start as the loan striker, or Blind would play there and do a fine job or Fellaini would replace him with Di Maria filling his role.

We have a hugely flexible midfield at the moment and I just can't understand people who think we're an injury away from a catastrophe.

We are far more covered in midfield than the likes of Chelsea who are one of the best teams in the world. If Matic gets injured they are looking at the likes of Mikel replacing him, likewise Fabregas and Ramires.

I also really want to know who these quality midfielders are who are willing to warm the bench when Fellaini and Herrera are in their current form.

In my opinion a midfielder should only be a priority if the right one becomes available. That's Pogba, Modric, Veratti quality, not the likes of Schneiderlin.
Sorry but I disagree.Chelsea are top of the league but are hardly a model for continued success.I think everyone would agree that Mikel should have been moved on seasons ago.This season Chelsea went out early in both cups,their squad depth is hardly ideal.They will likely buy a top CM in the summer.

We will likely be playing CL next season and our midfield is thin as it is.I never said we need to bring in a top class player but we definately need more numbers.As I said, in our current and best system we play with 2 combative box to box midfielders.We have no back for these players,if they are injured,we have to change the way we play.

In addition to this,Carrick is 34 and needs to be replaced this summer or next.Schneiderlin would be a good replacement in my opinion,don't know why you are dismissing him.Finally we're Manchester United,not Everton, we can afford to buy and have good players on the bench.
 
United fans never stop amazing me.

If Fellaini was injured we'd play Di Maria in his position. If Herrera was injured Rooney would drop back and RVP would start as the loan striker, or Blind would play there and do a fine job or Fellaini would replace him with Di Maria filling his role.

We have a hugely flexible midfield at the moment and I just can't understand people who think we're an injury away from a catastrophe.

Van Gaal likes to have two defensively minded players in the midfield three. Those two players are currently Carrick and Fellaini. If Fellaini was injured he'd almost certainly be replaced by Rooney and not Di Maria, as Van Gaal evidently doesn't like playing Herrera and Di Maria/Mata central at the same time.

That leaves us with Carrick and Blind as deep-lying players (enough) but with no replacement for Fellaini should he get injured. We need at least one signing there because no matter what way you dress it up relying on Rooney as back-up in midfield simply isn't acceptable. He's poor there and we need him up front anyway.

I'd argue that we could do with two signings if we include Di Maria and Mata as wide players (which we should) as four central midfielders simply isn't enough for three spots. Certainly not with a champions league campaign as well.
 
His 10 has always been his most important role for attacking, but this is less the case when we play with the point backwards like we currently do. In a perfect van Gaal team (which can't exist, mind) all the attacks are starting/ending with the 10. In both cases of 433 (point forward or backward) he still always plays with a 6, 8 and 10. That's how he's always worked in his carreer and he's still doing so here.

As I see how it currently stands, we've got:
6: Carrick, Blind
8: Herrera, Rooney
10: Fellaini, Rooney, Mata, Di Maria

I don't say we're going to a buy a CM to bench either of Fellaini or Herrera, because they've been great. When Herrera gets injured/needs a rest we're in a spot of bother though. Since we're pretty lightweight on the defensive options I think he will want a midfielder so he can play Mata at 10 again. He likes multifunctional players and this would give him 2 options in midfield:

Fellaini-Carrick-Herrera and Mata/Rooney-Blind-CM. If he wants to play Mata at 10 (which I think is what he wants, Mata is a perfect van Gaal 10), he'll need to compensate by bringing in a defensively good 8. Mata isn't completely useless when it comes to defending mind, otherwise he'd never play in a van Gaal team since he defends as a team.

All I'm saying is this will give him more options to choose a balanced midfield, since he always wants 2 defensively good players there. Currently we've got a good first choice midfield, but no good backup for Herrera. Fellaini can be replaced, although not like-for-like. I think he will want the same with Herrera, a different option to choose at 8 who's not identical to him but more defensive.

This would mean Mata and Rooney are multifunctional, as is Blind and probably the new CM aswell (for 6). I think we'll mostly see Di Maria on the wing next season, his game isn't suited for a possesion based team in midfield (could be wrong on this).

Sorry I'm late getting back to you on this mare, very interesting post. Do you think LvG might have had a mind to tweak his usual preferences after a season in the PL, which is a very different animal to the other leagues he has manged in?

When I look at our options and how much we need Rooney to play the #9 and how unsuited I see Di Maria in a possession based midfield, it makes me think we should be looking for two versatile CM's this summer before we worry about anything else, because for me we are really short on competition/cover/rotation options in the Herrera and Felliani roles without disrupting other areas of the team.
 
Sorry I'm late getting back to you on this mare, very interesting post. Do you think LvG might have had a mind to tweak his usual preferences after a season in the PL, which is a very different animal to the other leagues he has manged in?

When I look at our options and how much we need Rooney to play the #9 and how unsuited I see Di Maria in a possession based midfield, it makes me think we should be looking for two versatile CM's this summer before we worry about anything else, because for me we are really short on competition/cover/rotation options in the Herrera and Felliani roles without disrupting other areas of the team.

He's had to change a little bit, but not that much actually. Fellaini at 10 isn't what he normally would use (he usually uses players with better passing - not trying to discredit the big man) but he did use tall players as target man before if his plan A didn't work. For now Fellaini helped him with the defensive balance and gives the team another option with long balls. That isn't new, the position he's playing in is though (like I've said - 10 is very important for him and normally doesn't need to provide defensive balance). It works though and I assume he's happy with this, we just need depth and different options.

As we see with the current injuries: we're very light on options for defensive minded midfielders for balance, Rooney is the only candidate for all 3 midfield spots to bring him that. We don't need a Pogba who's another 10 who could play at 8. We need an 8 who can play at 6. This way he wouldn't have to buy 2 CM of whom one would probably be benched alot. We might have some youth players he likes as extra backup for defensive midfield, but I don't follow the youth that much so I wouldn't know.

That would make him have the options of 2 balanced, yet different, midfields which he could even mix up. We know he likes to tinker and come up with specific gameplans, this would suit him very much. Since he likes multifunctional players he would be able to keep the squad size down (which he likes) and still have plenty of competition for every spot.

If we bring in one 8/6 we would have (using Schneiderlin as example):
6: Carrick, Blind, Schneiderlin, youth/Rooney
8: Herrera, Schneiderlin, youth/Rooney (Fellaini? not sure)
10: Fellaini, Mata, youth/Rooney, Herrera

Only if alot of midfielders get injured again (which you can't really prepare for) we'd be in a spot of bother by needing to move Rooney again (10 is acceptable I think for him, 6 and 8 not so much). Otherwise he'd always be able to field 2 midfielders who give him defensive balance. Alot of his starting XI have been hampered by him wanting this balance but not having the players for it.

He said he underestimated the physicality of the PL but Fellaini currently is giving him that, the new CM will probably be very strong too so he has more options to give him this. It could be that he brings in 2 midfielders, but one probably won't be a starter - with his love for bringing trough youth players I'm not convinced of him buying a player to warm the bench though. It could happen though, I just think his love for smaller squads, multifunctional players and use of youth is bigger than calculating in both our 8's get injured for a long time (Blind, Rooney, youth or Fellaini should be able to suffice for 1-2 matches if need be).
 
United fans never stop amazing me.

You look at every other team in the league who have absolutely no replacements for their best player's, but have a great team (Chelsea for instance) but United need 2-3 great players for every position or we're short.

If Fellaini was injured we'd play Di Maria in his position. If Herrera was injured Rooney would drop back and RVP would start as the loan striker, or Blind would play there and do a fine job or Fellaini would replace him with Di Maria filling his role.

We have a hugely flexible midfield at the moment and I just can't understand people who think we're an injury away from a catastrophe.

We are far more covered in midfield than the likes of Chelsea who are one of the best teams in the world. If Matic gets injured they are looking at the likes of Mikel replacing him, likewise Fabregas and Ramires.

I also really want to know who these quality midfielders are who are willing to warm the bench when Fellaini and Herrera are in their current form.

In my opinion a midfielder should only be a priority if the right one becomes available. That's Pogba, Modric, Veratti quality, not the likes of Schneiderlin.

Why not Schneiderlin he's proven PL performer 7.5/10 every week player who would be reasonably priced in comparison to all you mention and only 25. He's more highly thought of than Carrick is outside of United fans!
 
We have to strengthen in midfield we only really have three players to cover the 2 positions carrick and Herrera have been occupying in recent weeks, there should be at least one more option available before we have to start shoehorning Rooney or fellaini there.

It would also be stupid to trust our centre halves to stay fit, Rafael looks like he is on his way and With falcao leaving and RVP past his best we need a striker as well. I really don't see how we can afford not to buy 3-5 new players depending on who we sell, I doubt LVG would be in a job next year if he tried to rely on this squad and 1-2 new players unless he signs pogba and bale which isn't going to happen.
 
Why not Schneiderlin he's proven PL performer 7.5/10 every week player who would be reasonably priced in comparison to all you mention and only 25. He's more highly thought of than Carrick is outside of United fans!

He reminds me of the Lallana of central midfield. Looks like a standout player in a team and system that suit him, but is actually pretty mediocre.

To me he doesn't really excel at anything. His passing is unspectacular, he isn't physically a beast and I've never seen him dominate a game.

I think we should be aiming for better, even if it means waiting 6-12 months.
 
He reminds me of the Lallana of central midfield. Looks like a standout player in a team and system that suit him, but is actually pretty mediocre.

To me he doesn't really excel at anything. His passing is unspectacular, he isn't physically a beast and I've never seen him dominate a game.

I think we should be aiming for better, even if it means waiting 6-12 months
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That sounds like you have someone in mind.....
 
He's had to change a little bit, but not that much actually. Fellaini at 10 isn't what he normally would use (he usually uses players with better passing - not trying to discredit the big man) but he did use tall players as target man before if his plan A didn't work. For now Fellaini helped him with the defensive balance and gives the team another option with long balls. That isn't new, the position he's playing in is though (like I've said - 10 is very important for him and normally doesn't need to provide defensive balance). It works though and I assume he's happy with this, we just need depth and different options.

As we see with the current injuries: we're very light on options for defensive minded midfielders for balance, Rooney is the only candidate for all 3 midfield spots to bring him that. We don't need a Pogba who's another 10 who could play at 8. We need an 8 who can play at 6. This way he wouldn't have to buy 2 CM of whom one would probably be benched alot. We might have some youth players he likes as extra backup for defensive midfield, but I don't follow the youth that much so I wouldn't know.

That would make him have the options of 2 balanced, yet different, midfields which he could even mix up. We know he likes to tinker and come up with specific gameplans, this would suit him very much. Since he likes multifunctional players he would be able to keep the squad size down (which he likes) and still have plenty of competition for every spot.

If we bring in one 8/6 we would have (using Schneiderlin as example):
6: Carrick, Blind, Schneiderlin, youth/Rooney
8: Herrera, Schneiderlin, youth/Rooney (Fellaini? not sure)
10: Fellaini, Mata, youth/Rooney, Herrera

Only if alot of midfielders get injured again (which you can't really prepare for) we'd be in a spot of bother by needing to move Rooney again (10 is acceptable I think for him, 6 and 8 not so much). Otherwise he'd always be able to field 2 midfielders who give him defensive balance. Alot of his starting XI have been hampered by him wanting this balance but not having the players for it.

He said he underestimated the physicality of the PL but Fellaini currently is giving him that, the new CM will probably be very strong too so he has more options to give him this. It could be that he brings in 2 midfielders, but one probably won't be a starter - with his love for bringing trough youth players I'm not convinced of him buying a player to warm the bench though. It could happen though, I just think his love for smaller squads, multifunctional players and use of youth is bigger than calculating in both our 8's get injured for a long time (Blind, Rooney, youth or Fellaini should be able to suffice for 1-2 matches if need be).

Have you been following LvG's teams for a long time? You seem to have quite a lot knowledge regarding how he builds his squads and prefers his line-ups.

Personally I hope he eases up on the multifunctional thing as I'd rather avoid Rooney or Mata ever having to play in the midfield 3. I'd like to see us have 6 proper CM's for the 3 CM roles, albeit one of them a younger player. I'd also like to see us just use two #8's that share defensive and attacking responsibilities as opposed to a defensive #8 and a #10, but we shall see.

On the youth front it's uncertain if Pereira is going to stay and other than him none of the other CM's from the reserves seem close to being actual first team squad options, so that leaves LvG with some scope come the summer.
 
That sounds like you have someone in mind.....

My view is that Pogba will move either this Summer or next. I personally think Madrid will be favourite for him, but obviously we should be doing everything to bring him here.

Even if that fails though , Madrid will be getting rid of one of their midfielders to balance the books. The most likely would be Modric, who even at 30/31 would have 4-5 years left at the top level in my opinion. He'd be ideal.
 
The Euro is weak as hell.

Spain's top tax rate is 52% the UK is 45%

The new PL deal is insane

The conditions are ripe for us to get our hands on some of the world's best talent for the first time in a long time.
 
There are 49 attackers who we could buy, outside of that elite list, it's just crap.
 
Muppetry:

De Gea

Danilo/Valencia - Smalling/Jones - Laporte/Rojo - Shaw/Young

Felipe Anderson/Januzaj - Schneiderlin/Carrick/Blind - Ander Herrera/Geis - Memphis/Young

di Maria/Mata

Rooney/Wilson​

Slight changes.

de Gea

Fabinho/Valencia - Smalling/Jones - Laporte/Rojo - Shaw/Blind/Young

Schneiderlin/Carrick/Blind

Herrera/Mata/Rooney - Xhaka/Fellaini/Schneiderlin

di Maria/Felipe Anderson/Mata - Rooney/Memphis/Fellaini - Memphis/Felipe A./Young

 
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Muppet choice:

--------------------DDG--------------------
Clyne-----Smalling----Hummels----Shaw
----------------Schneiderlin---------------
------------Herrera------Pogba-----------
Mata------------------------------Di Maria
--------------------Rooney----------------


Cheaper Alternative:

----------------------DDG-------------------
Valencia-----Smalling----Hummels----Shaw
-------------------Schneiderlin-------------
-------------Herrera-----------Blind---------
Mata-----------------------------------Di Maria
---------------------Rooney-------------------
 
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One thing you can be sure of is that no matter who we buy, we'll probably still be surprised come Christmas who is being played every week.

My money is on Fellaini and Valencia still getting regular starts.
 
Is it feasible that we could have this squad next season & what could we achieve with it?

De Gea
Valdez

Valencia
McNair
Shaw
Rojo
Smalling
Blackett
Jones
Hummels

Carrick
Blind
Schneiderlin
Herrera
Isco
Januzaj
DiMaria
Young
Fellaini
Mata

Rooney
Wilson
Depay
Benteke

Domestic treble at the very least - can't wait ;)
 
the tweet at the top right of the front page is strange, it says we want two strikers this summer, with Jackson Martinez, Cavani, Ings and Benteke all mentioned in the article. If we bought any of them but Ings I'd worry that LvG will be moving Rooney back into the midfield 3.
 
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Looks like we'll definitely bring in a striker, which I hadn't thought we would previously so I think five in:

Right back, Centre back, central midfielder, winger and striker.

Plus a keeper I suppose if De Gea goes.
 
As others have said euro is crap right now. Every player we sign right now is as if he was discounted.
 
So looking at the recent buzz.

CB - Hummels or Laporte
RB - Clyne of Cancelo
CM - Gundogan
WF - Memphis or ????
Striker - ?????
 
So looking at the recent buzz.

CB - Hummels or Laporte
RB - Clyne of Cancelo
CM - Gundogan
WF - Memphis or ????
Striker - ?????

We've been scouting Felipe Anderson and Firmino, I think they could still be in the mix. Really hope, Gündogan isn't the only midfielder we're looking to sign.
 
We've been scouting Felipe Anderson and Firmino, I think they could still be in the mix. Really hope, Gündogan isn't the only midfielder we're looking to sign.

That's right, I guess either would work if Memphis doesn't join us. Do you think we'd buy 2 CM's this summer?
 
That's right, I guess either would work if Memphis doesn't join us. Do you think we'd buy 2 CM's this summer?

I really don't know, but I hope we do. I just don't see Gündogan as the holding midfielder or as the player van Gaal was talking about, who could give our midfield the balance he loves. IMO we need a midfielder, who can play the box to box role and be the holding midfielder if needed, which is why I would like Xhaka and/or Schneiderlin. If Gündogan recovers his form, he'd be a great signing, but at this moment in time I'd feel underwhelmed by his signing considering the other options.
 
My summer plans, hope your watching LVG, in priority as follows :-
1) Sign DDG to a new long term contract
2) Sign Jones to a new long term contract.
3) Bring in Clyne & Hummels in defence.
4) Bring in Pjanic in midfield.
5) Bring in Ronaldo or Bale in attack(Or even Neymar if you could get any of them - v doubtful)
6) Sign Andreas Perreira to a new long term contract and loan him out.
7) Loan out James Wilson.
8) Allow Rafael, Evans, Fellaini, RVP & Falcao to depart.
9) Bring Chicharito back into squad.
10) Bring Jesse Lingard back into squad.
 
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