I hope this is a joke post.
Cause if it's not literally everything with it is wrong.
Manchester United ready to back José Mourinho with £100m-plus in January
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Cause if it's not literally everything with it is wrong.
Tell me, what's the Spurs' long term plan?
Become Arsenal II.
Wouldn't call it a quick fix approach, the managers have effing lost it with their stubbornness to show flexibility with the playing style, while their favouritism has cost them dearly on results.
Such a good squad wasted with the style they are preferring to play with and the team selections put on the field which do not match the tactics deployed on the pitch, and a ceo lacking any footballing brains making a mess of things in the market acting reactively most of the time.
Mata is just about to play his 200th game for us and he’s just turned 30. He’s exactly the sort of player we should have been signing.
Why don’t you go and swap your scarf then - no one needs supporters like you.
Oh that's not a nice way to behave towards a big club like Juventus, don't you know. I
Mata was bought at age 27 when his career was already in decline. I love mata but That's not what we needed.
What's wrong in praising what is due and facing the truth? Are we becoming RAWK? In reality what many like myself are asking is a return to the united way witnessed in SAF glory days
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My mistake then. Its amazing how a player can become so obsolete at such tender age
I am amazed he lasted 200 games, that too on the wing. Needs to be moved on for a better playmaker who needs to play in his natural position.
Nice work.
Who needs due diligence when you can just make stuff up like devilish.
It's amazing how he praised Juventus and blamed Manutd for not signing young players.
When pointed out how we have signed so many young players - his reply was we don't always sign young talents, we also sign few old players.
When pointed out how Juventus also signed old players - goal posts were again moved.
Compared Juventus model to Spurs - when pointed out Juventus spend big on wages and transfer fee, point was changed to, they get best out of players.
It's ever changing point. I just gave up after some time.
Isn't it sort of a generally accepted fact that a player's best years usually comes around the age 25-30?
Just watched a Preben Elkjær documentary yesterday (The danish Legend who won Serie A with Verona), and he mentioned it himself. Thought it was pretty spot on. It's where you have a good amount of experience, skills, and also knowledge on how to deal with things.
Just watched a Preben Elkjær documentary yesterday (The danish Legend who won Serie A with Verona), and he mentioned it himself. Thought it was pretty spot on. It's where you have a good amount of experience, skills, and also knowledge on how to deal with things.
It used to be, everyone on here seems to think it's 20-25 these days. Fill a team with 20 year olds and we'll be best in world apparently
We would have if we had made him a key cog of the system and built the team around him.
We shafted him onto the right wing instead.
Giving playing minutes to U20 and U21 players does not amount to a long-term strategy.
And nor is it about minutes played, but rather how many of them successfully become first team squad regulars, or (even better) established parts if your first XI.
I've previously explained it. We're several steps along the path, with the addition of the (now-finished) player lodge to our new training centre being the immediately previous step, and completion of our new stadium being the next step.
The aim is to establish Spurs as one of the elite clubs.
Their long term plan is buying exactly zero players each year until they have paid off their stadium.
Absoubtly - and is a good rule of thumb, we can all point to exceptions. Players like Cantona, Yorke and Mata are good examples of the types of players in that age range who are ready to go straight into the first team.
He was already in decline at chelsea
Go on and name them.
Rashford, Martial, Shaw all joined as young players and now part of first team squad. Lingard was academy product who joined various clubs on loan and now is a regular first team player. Then we have players like Bailly who joined when he was just 22.
Anyways since you are here, lets revisit old argument too.
So which team is giving mins to young players?
Also you keep on repeating same thing that Manutd is looking for quick fixes because they signed few old players when we have signed young players more often than not. It's like using Sissoko and Llorente as example to say Spurs sign old players and looking for quick fixes.
Spurs player ages when they were signed.
Trippier - 25
Lloris - 27
Toby - 26
Vertonghen - 25
Son - 23
Wanyama - 25
Sissoko - 27
Llorente - 32
Dembele - 25
Aurier - 25
Lucas - 25/26
Fazio - 27
That's usually the age when ManUtd signs too except very few exceptions like Matic, Sanchez or free players like Ibra.
It is. There are even studies to support this across several sports
http://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2015/05/player-progression-in-the-nba/
https://sports.vice.com/en_ca/artic...why-its-all-downhill-once-nba-players-turn-30
http://wagesofwins.com/nba-players-age-like-milk
Few people here dispute everything just to sound smart
I think what most people liked about TFM, was his size. On this forum, people get very excited when they see a wrestler on the pitch. What they don't understand is that a wrestler's physique is not suited to playing elite level football.
Our latest problem is Lukaku who is probably the heaviest player in the league and as a result gets tired very quickly.
I have reached a point where I am sick and tired of Jose using tall players. We played MCFC the other day and their short players ran circles around our giants.
Re: RB: Like you said, assuming Dalot isn't going to be ready for a few years, we need to look into getting a RB, who can immediately do a job for us and is not injury prone. Making do with make shift RBs is getting tiresome.
And let's not forget about needing an RW - the right hand side of our pitch, desperately needs updating.
Actually what I liked about TFM, was his tackling ability. Felt it was special. Also at the time he was seen as a CB (that could also play at FB and CM) and his technique for that was of good quality. TFM not shining at his age has nothing to do with his physique, and more to do with his attacking technique required of the modern fullback. Also still a little rash which can become a bit of a problem as the last line of defense.
Good luck with that. Maybe it will happen, who knows.
I thought we were Arsenal II?
We are a top 4 club, whose manager is required to get top 4....nothing more, nothing less.
To do this, while spending little in the transfer market, will allow us to make the most profit. Wasn't this Arsenal's raison d'être?
Not this shit again. Please don't bore me with the same tedious post full of assumptions and little logic.
Fair enough.
Personally, I never saw anything special about him. All he was, was young and big.
What's your argument against it?
Try debating against the post using logic, rather than just saying, "Not this shit again."
Any idiot can come out with something like that, without knowing anything about a topic.
@roonster09 I never said Juventus only sign youth players. Were did you get that?
All I said is that Juventus tend to sign value players with the occasional big name. They don't tend to spend ridiculous money on a player whose searching a last paycheck unless its worth it (Ronaldo brought ton of sponsors to them)
What's wrong in saying that if we're spending crazy money then we should do it on someone young?
I have seen that, you even argued same thing against me and I made my points. No sane guy will let 100 million worth of players to enter last year of contract just to save 10 million in wages. No, no one will ever do that. It's a high risk where you lose 100 million worth of assets for nothing.
ManUtd spent second highest money in last 5 years or since SAF retired and also have second highest wage bill and by far the biggest wage bill in England. That's not minimal investment.
So yeah, any idiot can just assume and make all the points based on entire assumption with little or no logic. Nothing to back it up.
You said we have to be like Juventus and when @Cassidy pointed out we have signed lot of young players, you said.
Not sure what you meant by that when it's very clear that we sign Young players more often than not and very few old players.
Please highlight the exact quotes. My first post was in response to your response to @GlastonSpur who said that United's decline was due to us not searching for bargain gems (or value). You said that no thanks to that since Spurs had won nothing through that route in which I rebutted by sarcastically saying that we should wait for the likes of Juventus and Spurs to buy those players up only to then try to lure those players back for ridiculous money.
We've tried the FM way, spending 400m on
Regarding my second quote it was in response to this. Once again I didn't said that Juventus only sign youths. All I said is spending ridiculous money on players who had already won everything there is to win and are looking for a last pay cheque is stupid.
If you didn't say that, then yeah it's a mistake on my part. Can you tell me what you mean by this "We don't always buy young talent. Mkhitaryan, Sanchez, mata and co are a clear example" after praising Juventus transfer strategy?
So obsolete after having been Chelsea player ot the year twice just before we brought him!
This is all the train of posts on that regard. Please note
A- Juventus are mentioned once and it was regarding your post of us not wanting to buy bargains as we want to win trophies. Bargain signings were the true focus of the posts not youths. In fact my criticism was towards throwing crazy money for players who had won everything there is to win and are looking for a last pay cheque
B- Cassidy mentioned youths out of the blues and he picked up players from different eras (Mourinho and LVG)
C- I answered to that by saying that we don't always go for youths and I challenged his idea that we're youth centric under Mou by saying that if he had his way then we would have bought way more older players (Willian, Perisic, Toby to mention a few) then we actually did.
D- Finally I ended the post by saying that buying youths is pointless if we fail to nurture them and to play them on a regular basis, reminding him that Mou's lack of patience with kids is world renowned.
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