We certainly don't need a left back; Shaw with Blind/Rojo as cover are absolutely fine. I'd say Valencia also is fine as a back up right back; the question would be whether to give up on Rafa (I personally wouldn't but understand others who would).
Manchester United - January transfer window 2015 (twitter blacklist applies)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
We certainly don't need a left back; Shaw with Blind/Rojo as cover are absolutely fine. I'd say Valencia also is fine as a back up right back; the question would be whether to give up on Rafa (I personally wouldn't but understand others who would).
That's the big problem we are having. I love Rafael, but he just cannot stay fit. Valencia is a back up right back, unfortunately he is now either that RWB or RB first choice and to be honest, just is offering nothing. In an emergency yes that is fine, but we need a very good RB who will stay fit. I would not want to be using Valencia there for much longer.
what?
What exactly was Mata supposed to have achieved in such a short space of time under two managers and numerous changes around him? Wise up for feck sake
I see the point. Better to get rid of a player who would be a perfectly capable backup but is nothing special in order to fit in someone who could be fantastic if they get over their injury issues. Having Rafael and A.N.Other would be better than Valencia and A.N.Other. However I suspect unfortunately Rafael would be the one to make way.
I think he probably means that it didn't address any of our weaknesses; just made us strong in an already strong area. For a club like United I think that is fantastic though, we should aspire to be a club who strengthens from a position of strength, rather than weakness.
Some people wrongly believe it was sign Mata or sign Godin; rather than the reality of: sign Mata or sign no-one. Really what we should be saying is "what a huge upgrade Mata is on Kagawa", rather than "we didn't need him".
I actually think that Rafael will go as well, same as you. Then Valencia will be a backup, that is all he is good for now. I would never chose him as first choice in our side. I think he wants someone as first choice who can attack and defend to a high standard. I like Rafael attacking wise, but still worry about his defending.
We need to avoid panic buying in this window, should still try for top targets but that is it, we are in this mess because we have bought too many who do not fit into the team or cannot play in their best positions and that needs to stop. We also need to identify some up and coming talent like we have always done rather than spend on big names like falcao who are on the way down.
We probably won't get anyone but I think that is better than buying another fellaini or mata who who are undoubtably good players but cannot perform at their best because they weren't needed and can't play in the role where they produce their best form.
We probably won't get anyone but I think that is better than buying another fellaini or mata who who are undoubtably good players but cannot perform at their best because they weren't needed and can't play in the role where they produce their best form.
I think it's you who needs to "wise up" actually. Mata didn't solve any of our problems and likely added to them in the long run by making the squad even more imbalanced.
God that's an annoying term! I swear you never saw it around here until LVG arrived.
I agree
, I also have found it very annoying but I keep hearing it, so I might as well jump on the bandwagon while I'm at it.You don't think that it's a real thing ?
You have never heard someone talked about the lack of balance in our attacks, with Valencia being predominant or during Moyes tenure the lack of balance of our attacks we have very play through the middle ?
We did enough business in the summer so this window shouldn't be too critical.
Saying that, this time last year when we were underperforming ultimately it was our inability to fix it in the Jan window that cemented our bad run.
Hope LvG with a much more capable squad doesn't end up reflecting back and also bemoaning January inaction
Saying that, this time last year when we were underperforming ultimately it was our inability to fix it in the Jan window that cemented our bad run.
Hope LvG with a much more capable squad doesn't end up reflecting back and also bemoaning January inaction
Zaha off for 3 million according to the guardian. We are extremely shit at getting a decent price for players.
My Crystal Palace supporting mate has just text me to say that there are strong rumours that they will be buying back Zaha this week. £3.5 million up front and another £3.5 million dependent on appearances etc.
Not to the extent that people trot it out now, that's for sure.
That's not bad considering how little he's done since we bought him
Looks like we are not buying anyone then - I don't see why we would leave it this late in the month if we were planning to.
Being widely reported and nothing wrong with that deal in my opinion. An odd business him coming to OT in the first place.
Don't really mind that if all that's available is stop gaps. Vlaar for example. Good defender who'd do pretty well here I think, still better to wait until the summer for someone like Godin or Hummels.
Extremely risky since we can't seem to keep any of our CBs fit for 3 consecutive games.
The problem is we already have a range of 'decent' central defenders such as Jones, Rojo, Smalling, Carrick, McNair, etc - there seems little point adding yet another of that sort of standard when what we need is a truly top class one to play alongside one of those.
Erm not a CB, and there are plenty of CBs better than Jones, Evans and Smalling and also more reliable to stay fit than those that we could get in. Yes it would be great to get a Godin or Hummels, but a Fabian Schar could do us a lot of good esp with our CBs injury records.
Carrick is not traditionally a CB however players can change positions and don't have to be labelled as one thing these days and he has never really let us down in that position
He actually has tbh, but thats not his fault, as its not really his position. He can do a job there though no doubt.
God I fecking hate hipster "fans"
Dont see us doing anything this winter. A rb or cb would be what is needed, however the likes of hummels/laporte and clyne/Coleman wouldn't be available mid season.
For the summer i rekon:
Out:
Zaha 6m
Jones 10m
valencia 5m
nani 7m (probably used as player exchange)
Ando. Free
cleverley. Free.
mcnair released
Blackett released
hernandez 15m
fletcher released
evans 5m
RVP 8-10m
falco not signed
in:
Cavani 35-40m (some kind of deal involving Falcao wouldn't surprise me).
Hummels 25-30m
dragovic 15-20m
laporte 31m
clyne 20m
c.80m net spend not bad
For the summer i rekon:
Out:
Zaha 6m
Jones 10m
valencia 5m
nani 7m (probably used as player exchange)
Ando. Free
cleverley. Free.
mcnair released
Blackett released
hernandez 15m
fletcher released
evans 5m
RVP 8-10m
falco not signed
in:
Cavani 35-40m (some kind of deal involving Falcao wouldn't surprise me).
Hummels 25-30m
dragovic 15-20m
laporte 31m
clyne 20m
c.80m net spend not bad
We don't need 3 CB's as Smalling and Rojo would still be here and Cavani isn't worth buying as he's peaked. What we do need is at least one CM addition and a fast versatile forward who has his best in front of him.
Why? Jones can't play CB the way LvG wants it playing and RvP will be 32 with one year left on his contract come the summer.
None of them can but I think he'll only get rid of one and it'll be Evans.
Dont want Cavani but woodward had s real boner for him last summer.
It will probably be jones or evans that leaves, id prefer evans but if jones keeps playing like he got the job of a professional footballer on a bet then he'll be off.
Not saying what i want/think should happen just what probaby will.
If LvG brings in two CB's I think two will go out and Rojo wont be one of the senior 4 that goes.
I see, well no offense but I hope you are wrong on some of the the in's.
Why would we be getting rid of Blackett and McNair, could anyone help me? Two youngters, who did very well given the circumstances an still have a lot of learning to do.
Both out of contract in summer and havent been offered extensions (yet)
Apparently McNair has turned down our initial offer. Personally I hope they are both gone in the summer. Nowhere near good enough for United.
Me too, particularly Cavani. But if rvp goes and we dont sign Falcao then we need another striker, my knowledge of strikers at the mo is pretty poor, cant think of anyone good enough and may be availablr. Csvani is a big name and unhappy at psg.
looking at my list again i can't see us getting 3cbs even if we do get rid of jones or evans.
Here's a curveball i can see happening, mata and herera being sold. Probably replaced by two midfielders suited for a 433 ( not saying herera isn't suited for 433 but definately mata)
sgree. Maybe blackett in emergency but mcnair is dreadful.
wiuld like to see janko getting more of a run out if we are turning to reserves
He's 19 ffs! He's at least good enough to make some money on.
Thanks but I am sure it was cooler before it got mainstream
Agreed, aside from some bad patches he has shown good composure for a young man thrust into the first team. Giving him and Blackett an extension will cost the club peanuts. Why are people so keen to get rid of them so soon?