Manchester United - January Ins and Outs

Out: BFS, Darmian, Rojo, romero, depay and maybe schneiderlin and Jones.
In: Fonte, maybe a full back although fabinho has signed a new contract and Coleman would be overpriced. Slight possibility of a holding midfielder?
 
There won't be any arrivals. Maybe sone departing. I think we'll leave it until the summer, major injuries aside.
 
On Loan:

Memphis
Philistine
Johnstone

Departure:

Darmian
Schweinsteiger

That's all. I can see Carrick, Schneiderlin, Rojo and Rooney moving on in the summer.
 
A pacy right winger would be nice.
Could be Leon Bailey or Gelson Martins.

Memphis and Jones should leave, preferably on a permanent transfer.
 
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
 
Emdad Ahmed said:
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
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Isnt that supposed to be Mkhitaryan? I think we're in more pressing need of a defensive midfielder in the mould of Carrick. I liked how we lined up in midfield against liverpool, but take Fellaini out and put in a more capable player.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Don't really want griezmann now we've got Pogba.
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Neither do I, they won't work in a team together in any conventional formation. But the muppets don't mind that!

Emdad Ahmed said:
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
We need a right wing forward who can actually carry the ball
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Mkhitaryan

redNATION said:
Isnt that supposed to be Mkhitaryan? I think we're in more pressing need of a defensive midfielder in the mould of Carrick. I liked how we lined up in midfield against liverpool, but take Fellaini out and put in a more capable player.
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Blind
 
We all know who CAN be off this January so lets hope that they can leave for their and ours own sake

Jones sold to Stoke for 10M
Darmian on loan (with an obligation ) to Inter or Napoli
Schweinie to MLS

Maybe Schneiderlin to Southampton, Everton or Spurs

Ins :

Mourinho has the habit to buy in January so, let's hope that he'll bring one midfielder and one winger, but I've doubts
 
An out and out winger would be nice. Not expecting anything there though. Centre half cover is a possibility.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Don't really want griezmann now we've got Pogba.
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Viggers said:
Neither do I, they won't work in a team together in any conventional formation. But the muppets don't mind that!
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Why?
They don't play in the same positions.
Griezman attacker, Pogba midfielder.
And after the Liverpool game, i hope people finally stop saying Pogba should play as 10.



Scholsey2004 said:
Out: BFS, Darmian, Rojo, romero, depay and maybe schneiderlin and Jones.
In: Fonte, maybe a full back although fabinho has signed a new contract and Coleman would be overpriced. Slight possibility of a holding midfielder?
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Romero?
Why?
 
By the start of next season I don't see Bastian, Rooney, Rojo, Darmian, Schneiderlin, Depay and probably Jones been at OT. There's 2 of the biggest earner in European Football on that list and taking the rest into account they probably earn somewhere between £40-45m in wages a year. Then you have players like Pereira & Januzaj who if Mourinho doesn't want will probably be moved on.

He'll bring in at least 2 defenders, at least one central midfielder an attacking player.

Its not going to be easy to buy in January but if a player Mourinho is available I've no doubts he'll be in for him. If all those players are moved on Mourinho will likely have around £170m to spend over the next 2 transfer windows.
 
I think we should keep it low-key. Sell Darmian, Jones, BFS :( and send Memphis on loan to a club where he will get playing time. Promote some youngsters and get a pacey, young right winger in.

GK: DDG, Romero and Johnstone.
RB: Valencia, TFM.
LB: Shaw, Rojo
CB: Mike, Bailly, Blind, Tuanzebe
Midfield: Carrick, Fellaini, Herrera, Pogba, Mata, Rooney and Schneiderlin.
Wings: Martial, New, Lingard, Young, Mikhi.
ST: Zlatan and Rashford.
25 players, many of them can play in different positions. This should be enough for a top 4 finish.
 
With Bailly off to the AFCON in January we'll be short at CB but buying one would depend on the quality Jose wants, same goes for midfield, we need one last piece in there but Janaury isn't the time to get it.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a winger in if we are genuinely intereste in Gelson Martins and Leon Bailey, if we want to go for someone like Carrasco it will be the summer though.

RB is the position I think is most likely with Darmian almost certain to go, a younger RB like Cancelo coming in to be Valencia's understudy for half a season would be ideal.
 
Grylte said:
Why?
They don't play in the same positions.
Griezman attacker, Pogba midfielder.
And after the Liverpool game, i hope people finally stop saying Pogba should play as 10.
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Griezmann is a second striker. Pogba is significantly better in a three man midfield. The only formation I can think of that would fit both in is a 4-4-2 diamond. Which sacrifices our wide players, and at the tip of the diamond you can choose from one of Rashford, Mkhi, Martial, Mata, Lingard, or Rooney. Assuming Ibra and Griezmann up top.
 
Viggers said:
Griezmann is a second striker. Pogba is significantly better in a three man midfield. The only formation I can think of that would fit both in is a 4-4-2 diamond. Which sacrifices our wide players, and at the tip of the diamond you can choose from one of Rashford, Mkhi, Martial, Mata, Lingard, or Rooney. Assuming Ibra and Griezmann up top.
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What wide players would we sacrifice? We mainly play #9's or #10's on the wing due to our lack of wingers, I'd class Young as a winger, Martial has become an inside forward but still think he's a better #9, Mata is a #10, Memphis isn't yet good enough, Mkhi is as good at #10 as RW and the same could be said of Jesse Lingard..
 
redNATION said:
Isnt that supposed to be Mkhitaryan? .
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Viggers said:
Mkhitaryan
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I just can't shake off the feeling that he is a better fit to play behind the striker. Mkhi always seemed like a KdB, Silva, Özil type attacking midfielder playing out wide.

I feel we would be served better with a player who can consistently put up the dribbles and create a chance for himself
 
Devil may care said:
With Bailly off to the AFCON in January we'll be short at CB but buying one would depend on the quality Jose wants, same goes for midfield, we need one last piece in there but Janaury isn't the time to get it.

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a winger in if we are genuinely intereste in Gelson Martins and Leon Bailey, if we want to go for someone like Carrasco it will be the summer though.

RB is the position I think is most likely with Darmian almost certain to go, a younger RB like Cancelo coming in to be Valencia's understudy for half a season would be ideal.
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Who would you prefer for that position? Personally I don't see the point of spending a lot of money on Laporte, when he hasn't improved that much. Manolas and Koulibaly will be difficult to get and Koulibaly could be to off the AFCON as well.

I've said this before, but currently I'd prefer to get Fabinho, Sidibe or R. Pereira, not necessarily in winter but definitely next summer.
 
Depends where we are in terms of league position as if we're top four and not too far off the top then I don't see any outgoing activity bar Darmian, Schweinsteiger and Depay as it's extremely clear that none of that trio have any future with us at all.

I don't see any major incoming either as none of the three I've said I can see leaving are in need of being replaced seeing as they're nowhere near the first team picture anyway. It's not until next summer I see anything happening and I can see a lot happening with Rooney the biggest name outgoing along with Romero, Jones, Rojo, Fellaini and Young most likely to follow.
 
Grylte said:
Why?
They don't play in the same positions.
Griezman attacker, Pogba midfielder.
And after the Liverpool game, i hope people finally stop saying Pogba should play as 10.





Romero?
Why?
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I'd rather have Johnstone as backup since he's a youth product. Sub keepers hardly play anyway.
 
bucky said:
Who would you prefer for that position? Personally I don't see the point of spending a lot of money on Laporte, when he hasn't improved that much. Manolas and Koulibaly will be difficult to get and Koulibaly could be to off the AFCON as well.

I've said this before, but currently I'd prefer to get Fabinho, Sidibe or R. Pereira, not necessarily in winter but definitely next summer.
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Bonucci would stiull be my number one choice, we could use a CB with that extra experience and quality on the ball, and he's the right age to benefit us without cutting off the route of a player like Tuanzebe. I don't know about Manolas but I like Koulibaly, however he signed a new contract and like you say it would be another AFCON CB.

What I like about Cancelo is he's young enough to come in and be eased into the side, sharing the role with Valencia, and his attacking game is excellent, I do like what I've seen of Sidibe though.
 
Devil may care said:
Bonucci would stiull be my number one choice, we could use a CB with that extra experience and quality on the ball, and he's the right age to benefit us without cutting off the route of a player like Tuanzebe. I don't know about Manolas but I like Koulibaly, however he signed a new contract and like you say it would be another AFCON CB.

What I like about Cancelo is he's young enough to come in and be eased into the side, sharing the role with Valencia, and his attacking game is excellent, I do like what I've seen of Sidibe though.
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Do you think Bonucci is realistic? Because I can't see that happening really, no matter how much money we'd offer. Manolas has been playing well for years and is also very good with the ball at his feet.

R. Pereira has just turned 23 and Fabinho will turn 23 in a few days compared to Cancelo who will turn 23 next year in May. I think they all have the right age. Sidibe is the oldest with 24, I think.
 
bucky said:
Do you think Bonucci is realistic? Because I can't see that happening really, no matter how much money we'd offer. Manolas has been playing well for years and is also very good with the ball at his feet.

R. Pereira has just turned 23 and Fabinho will turn 23 in a few days compared to Cancelo who will turn 23 next year in May. I think they all have the right age. Sidibe is the oldest with 24, I think.
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Bonucci will be 30 next season so for a big fee I don't think it's impossible, but I'd agree unlikely. We were linked with Manolas for quite a while and he didn't sign a new contract with Roma, did he? I also think van Dijk might be under consideration, even though I don't personally think he's good enough on the ball to provide the contrast with Bailly or Smalling.

For some reason I thought Fabinho was older, not sure he's attacking enough though, to me we need a RB with bliseting pace on the overlapp since both our RW options are inside forwards not winger. I'm not familiar with R. Pereira in truth, I know Nice have started well though, what nationality is he?
 
Devil may care said:
Bonucci will be 30 next season so for a big fee I don't think it's impossible, but I'd agree unlikely. We were linked with Manolas for quite a while and he didn't sign a new contract with Roma, did he? I also think van Dijk might be under consideration, even though I don't personally think he's good enough on the ball to provide the contrast with Bailly or Smalling.

For some reason I thought Fabinho was older, not sure he's attacking enough though, to me we need a RB with bliseting pace on the overlapp since both our RW options are inside forwards not winger. I'm not familiar with R. Pereira in truth, I know Nice have started well though, what nationality is he?
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Portuguese. He's on loan from Porto, so he won't be that cheap either. He's quick, if that's the selling point.

Not sure about Manolas contract situation regarding an extension, currenlty he's under contract until 2019. I've similar concerns about van Dijk otherwise he's great IMO. Bonucci just seems to me like one of those players, who isn't as easily tempted by money as others and he seems to love playing for Juventus.
 
bucky said:
Portuguese. He's on loan from Porto, so he won't be that cheap either. He's quick, if that's the selling point.

Not sure about Manolas contract situation regarding an extension, currenlty he's under contract until 2019. I've similar concerns about van Dijk otherwise he's great IMO. Bonucci just seems to me like one of those players, who isn't as easily tempted by money as others and he seems to love playing for Juventus.
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I think speed is important in an attacking fullback, he has to be able to go box to box and penetrate in the final third.

You're probably right about Bonucci despite the recent stories that he was keen to play for Pep this past summer. The options are really slim in the CB market but we have to get one that contrasts Bailly/Smalling IMO, our CB options are all too simlar including Rojo and Jones.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Out: BFS, Darmian, Rojo, romero, depay and maybe schneiderlin and Jones.
In: Fonte, maybe a full back although fabinho has signed a new contract and Coleman would be overpriced. Slight possibility of a holding midfielder?
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You really think we're selling 7 players in January? When has any club ever done that?

And why are we selling Romero? Solid backup keeper. Doesn't moan, full international, got him for free. #2 GKs don't come much better. It would be the stupidest sale of the lot.
 
If Jose doesn't believe Carrick is up to it (which I disagree with) I'd like to see us replace him. As well as Fellaini has done in certain games, I'd prefer to see someone better on the all in there and we have 2/3 of a great midfield developing.

Also with the injury of Mike, it highlights how paper thin our defence is and so potentially a CB. Fonte would be underwhelming but it'd be better than seeing Rojo starting.

I don't support the full back calls, Tony is doing well and deserves to keep his spot for the rest of the season.
 
Nothing coming in I reckon. It's all about summer 17, and an assessment of who hasn't met Jose's expectations. Also need to consider how players have played who are on loan.
 
Devil may care said:
I think speed is important in an attacking fullback, he has to be able to go box to box and penetrate in the final third.

You're probably right about Bonucci despite the recent stories that he was keen to play for Pep this past summer. The options are really slim in the CB market but we have to get one that contrasts Bailly/Smalling IMO, our CB options are all too simlar including Rojo and Jones.
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Agreed. Which is why I really like Sidibe and R. Pereira.

Do you think we need to buy young and a potentially great CB like Laporte or would you prefer someone like Manolas or Koulibaly, who are further ahead in their development? IMO because of Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe and R. Williams, I'd probably prefer the latter to give the young CBs we already have a chance. And for the record I think Fosu-Mensah is a midfielder, but Mourinho might think otherwise.

If you are looking for a different type of CB, watch Sassuolo (if you haven't already) and pay attention to Acerbi. He's 28 and a ball playing CB. I'm a bit reluctant to players from Italy, who aren't playing for Roma, Juventus or Napoli, but he's definitely one of the better CBs in the league. Also from that league, Maksimovic from Napoli is interesting and perhaps de Vrij and Hoedt from Lazio for the future.
 
Right, so Mkhitaryan's been written off by some on here having barely kicked a ball for us.

We don't need to strengthen with average squad players, we need to offload anyone that isn't required and get the huge wage bill down before heavily reinvesting in the summer.

I can certainly see Memphis going out on loan. We then need to be looking to move on players that have been at the club for a while and failed to deliver (Young, Jones), players that are aging or in decline (Schweinsteiger, Carrick, Rooney), and players that have really under performed and are not required in the long term plan (Rojo, Darmian, Schneiderlin). This will obviously take a few transfer windows, but will allow us to invest in players that are an instant improvement, and also push talented youngsters such as Rashford, Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe through.
 
Wouldn't mind a centre back coming in to cover bailly when he goes to the Africa cup thing.
 
bucky said:
Agreed. Which is why I really like Sidibe and R. Pereira.

Do you think we need to buy young and a potentially great CB like Laporte or would you prefer someone like Manolas or Koulibaly, who are further ahead in their development? IMO because of Fosu-Mensah, Tuanzebe and R. Williams, I'd probably prefer the latter to give the young CBs we already have a chance. And for the record I think Fosu-Mensah is a midfielder, but Mourinho might think otherwise.
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I think the RB options have suddenly become brighter than a year ago, through this thread I have seen 5 good options brought up.

The CB situation is a tricky one without a doubt, Laporte is the best young option on the market and my general opinion is that if a player is good enough then they'll make it through, so part of me thinks we shouldn't worry about Axel and RoShaun just now, but it's also those young CB's that make me want an experienced CB like Bonucci. I agree with you on Fosu-Mensah, I see him developing into a very good DM.

If you are looking for a different type of CB, watch Sassuolo (if you haven't already) and pay attention to Acerbi. He's 28 and a ball playing CB. I'm a bit reluctant to players from Italy, who aren't playing for Roma, Juventus or Napoli, but he's definitely one of the better CBs in the league. Also from that league, Maksimovic from Napoli is interesting and perhaps de Vrij and Hoedt from Lazio for the future.
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I haven't watched a lot of Sassuolo but I'll keep an eye out next time they are on, I did like the bit I saw of Maksimovic but I didn't realize he'd moved to Napoli, that will make him very difficult to get. How has de Vrij developed at Lazio?

worldinmotion66 said:
Right, so Mkhitaryan's been written off by some on here having barely kicked a ball for us.
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Who in this thread has done that?

M Bison said:
I don't support the full back calls, Tony is doing well and deserves to keep his spot for the rest of the season.
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I'm not suggesting replacing Valencia immediately but we have no real competition/cover for the position, so it would be sensible to bring an understudy in now in order to give them 6 months to bed in before next season.
 
Devil may care said:
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I'm not suggesting replacing Valencia immediately but we have no real competition/cover for the position, so it would be sensible to bring an understudy in now in order to give them 6 months to bed in before next season.
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I agree, it's just non-urgent in comparison with other areas of the team. We need to select any additions carefully in January, if we buy anyone at all, and a RB just feels further down the list of priorities at this stage.

I'd like to see some of our hugely talented young CBs get a game in the cups which could offset the need to bring in a centre back and I remain hopeful, and in the minority, that Morgan will come good.
 
Bailly will be gone for 3-5 weeks max, and people want a CB to cover :wenger:

I don't think we'll need to use them, but if we did i'd prefer to see TFM, Williams or Tuanzebe step up rather than spend money on another squad player.
 
Out: Mkhitaryan. :(

Deserves first team football.
 
In the long term Jones, Rooney, Rojo, Schneiderlein and Depay probably dont have a future at the club

Suppose January depends on who is buying..... Could see some desperate teams interested in Jones if he is fit and Schneiderlein could be very useful for a lot of teams

Could Fosu-Mensah and Tuanzebe step up to regular first team involvement in their places? I say this as its hard to imagine us securing the players that we want in January

In terms of additions I wish we had a player like Chicharito.... Can see a lot of games like the ones vrs Stoke/Liverpool where a goal would be the difference

feck you LVG
 
A tiny tiny part of me thinks Mourinho is going to try to sell Rooney to China in January. Their transfer window will be open then, and Mourinho obviously knows Rooney and his agent are tumors
 
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