Manchester United | Injury Watch 2024/25

Can you imagine the quote for injury insurance at United!!

2 billion pounds please
 
McGrathsipan said:
Can you imagine the quote for injury insurance at United!!

2 billion pounds please
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There’s no such thing as an injury insurance for football clubs, there is for financial loss due to a player being permanently incapacitated to play.
 
At this point, I don’t think this is freak bad luck with injuries. I think you should look at the medical staff and coaching staff. Does ETH’s coaching and fitness regime just feck them up?
 
Who would have thought, doing 90 minute bleep tests twice a week isn’t good for the body..
 
Chairman Steve said:
At this point, I don’t think this is freak bad luck with injuries. I think you should look at the medical staff and coaching staff. Does ETH’s coaching and fitness regime just feck them up?
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I think that's a level of detail, oversight you'll only really get when we don't have a manager who can't be focusing on anything else but his next result to save his job.
 
This is a problem that has been with United for a long time. Granted it seems worse now than it's ever been, but it seemed like we used to go through an annual defender injury crisis in Fergie's time and were forced to play Fletcher and Carrick at the back.

I think it has to partly be down to what players are willing to put up with this days. Keane used to be taking knee injections to get on the pitch, is anyone doing that kind of thing now?
 
GoodTimes said:
Who would have thought, doing 90 minute bleep tests twice a week isn’t good for the body..
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Why would that be bad in any way for an athlete? (I don't even know where you got that fact from but it would not be bad for them, it would be a bit weird to do them twice a week because once a week would be completely sufficient) It's a test, not training - whole point is you can do it throughout a season to monitor where a player is, the injury risk from bleep tests is only high with unfit people, I'll go out on limb and say any PL footballer is in the elite category for cardio, HIIT etc. Our team, and every team, really do not do loads of running and intense fitness work once the season starts, when you listen to interviews with them they'll do light gym work, go massage, have light sessions, tactical work and recover given for most of the year there is a game every what ~3/4 days when you are in Europe.

Jericho said:
This is a problem that has been with United for a long time. Granted it seems worse now than it's ever been, but it seemed like we used to go through an annual defender injury crisis in Fergie's time and were forced to play Fletcher and Carrick at the back.

I think it has to partly be down to what players are willing to put up with this days. Keane used to be taking knee injections to get on the pitch, is anyone doing that kind of thing now?
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This probably is quite a good point, many injuries we seem to hear about now aren't severe ones for the most part like Amad's knee, there's a lot of muscle sprains and to be honest players maybe used to just play through them. There's more games now as well which means it's highly likely there are more of these types of injuries. Last season we had the worst injuries so Ineos should definitely be looking at what is going on in the medical department and with our fitness team. United, Chelsea, Newcastle and I think Brentford all had period where there was an entire XI out at the same time, it's completely unsustainable and they need to shave games off somewhere.
 
hobbers said:
When Hag is sacked our muscle injury rate will fall by probably half, at a guess. Put a pin in that.
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What was our injury record like under Ole, Jose, LVG? It may not have been as bad as it currently is, but I can't remember a time when we weren't persistently dealing with key chunks of our squad being out of action.

It's a hard cycle to break, however I think we would see a lot more players making themselves available if we were challenging for the big trophies.
 
groovyalbert said:
What was our injury record like under Ole, Jose, LVG? It may not have been as bad as it currently is, but I can't remember a time when we weren't persistently dealing with key chunks of our squad being out of action.

It's a hard cycle to break, however I think we would see a lot more players making themselves available if we were challenging for the big trophies.
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Been an issue for years, last season was awful though because it was all concentrated in the defence for a long time. There was an article on it which explained:

However, digging a little deeper, more than 66% of the thirty reported muscle injuries (20) can be attributed to just seven players, with Harry Maguire and Mason Mount each suffering four injuries. Luke Shaw accumulated the most days on the sidelines (221) up to and including the final day of the season.
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So there is also an element here of other clubs likely being much more cutthroat and likely jettisoning players like Shaw (also Martial) who clearly have injury issues and therefore avoiding this problem. Same for someone like Phil Jones, as much as I liked him, he should have been moved on years before he left. Shaw I honestly think pre leg break could have been an all time great but we can't undo the past and he's had maybe 2 really good seasons since that, it is a bit mental he is still here and we extended him last season for another 4 years.
 
It will be interesting to see now that ETH has gone if the number of injuries reduces. Especially the tweaks and strains that seemed to occur on the training ground on a weekly basis.
 
Red Royal said:
It will be interesting to see now that ETH has gone if the number of injuries reduces. Especially the tweaks and strains that seemed to occur on the training ground on a weekly basis.
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Or at least we get proper injury updates. Managers do usually give a timeline for long term injured players. We have next to no information on Shaw. Not sure what critical piece of information is being protected here.
 
Red Royal said:
It will be interesting to see now that ETH has gone if the number of injuries reduces. Especially the tweaks and strains that seemed to occur on the training ground on a weekly basis.
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I never bought into this. Was ETH's training regiment really that much more demanding than managers whose teams play more intensely?

Klopp never got that many injuries. Neither De Zerbi, Arteta, Ange, etc... I aslo doubt he had us doing nothing but resistance and edurance training.

It's been baffling, but i doubt we'll ever get to the bottom of why we've been so injury prone. I don't think we have enough evidence to blame it on anything other than bad luck
 
Down to 'just' 5 injuries now, Mainoo and 4 defenders. Hopefully by time Amorin arrives a few of them will be back too.
 
Red Royal said:
Down to 'just' 5 injuries now, Mainoo and 4 defenders. Hopefully by time Amorin arrives a few of them will be back too.
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In some cases the players are injured between the ears. Morale has been low to varying degrees and so is motivation. Some of these players are really taking the pi$$
 
groovyalbert said:
What was our injury record like under Ole, Jose, LVG? It may not have been as bad as it currently is, but I can't remember a time when we weren't persistently dealing with key chunks of our squad being out of action.

It's a hard cycle to break, however I think we would see a lot more players making themselves available if we were challenging for the big trophies.
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Alright, no need to be mean about Shaw.
 
Wonder if Utd would consider giving Yoro some U21 mins like I have seen suggested for Malacia. Be interesting to see if either of Mainoo/Maguire return to training during international break too
 
This is so sad, had so much untapped potential. His body has failed him. Do we have an estimated return?
 
KrasHammerhand said:
This is so sad, had so much untapped potential. His body has failed him. Do we have an estimated return?
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Shaw spends far too much time in the weight room trying to get bulkier…. needs to spend more time on the track to get thinner.
 
I feel like he is not doing what a top athlete should be doing, as he always seems to be come back to pre season overweight.

Not looking after his body in the off season is a sign that he is not doing the correct things to stay fit.
 
In fairness to Luke Shaw, that leg break was horrific and he's lucky to have had the career he's had at all.

From Utd's POV, I've never understood how the club hasn't gone out and bought a high-end left back over the past 6-7 years. Yeah, they got Alex Telles and Malacia, but thy always felt like punts to keep Shaw focused on maintaining fitness and keeping his place in the team (in other words, they were intended to be back-ups and nothing more).

The club has never really taken the full back position seriously over the past decade, and it's to their detriment.
 
The Uncle of All Uncles said:
In fairness to Luke Shaw, that leg break was horrific and he's lucky to have had the career he's had at all.

From Utd's POV, I've never understood how the club hasn't gone out and bought a high-end left back over the past 6-7 years. Yeah, they got Alex Telles and Malacia, but thy always felt like punts to keep Shaw focused on maintaining fitness and keeping his place in the team (in other words, they were intended to be back-ups and nothing more).

The club has never really taken the full back position seriously over the past decade, and it's to their detriment.
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This is a really good point I think.
I mean no one can doubt Shaw's qualities, he absolutely is a top-class fullback, but it's been known for a long time he has had injury issues. Why go for punts when there were players like Udogie available not too long ago for circa the same price we paid for Malacia? Shite scouting.
Hopefully Amass can get blooded in by the end of the season or we get someone in January, cos god knows we need it.
 
Will be interesting to see how many injuries, outside of Luke Shaw, we have going forward now. Some of the stuff I read in the aftermath of ETH going was that we did so much running in training and because our games were like Basketball games at times the players did so much running there too. Couple that with minimal rotation on his part then possibly a lot of the injuries we suffered were due to players being pushed to their limits.

Amorim seems keen to rotate, and not only to just try players out in different positions, but to ensure players aren't overly fatigued and is clearly trying to prioritise control of the ball over fast transitions all the time.

Could help reduce the amount of muscle injuries at the very least.
 
The Uncle of All Uncles said:
In fairness to Luke Shaw, that leg break was horrific and he's lucky to have had the career he's had at all.

From Utd's POV, I've never understood how the club hasn't gone out and bought a high-end left back over the past 6-7 years. Yeah, they got Alex Telles and Malacia, but thy always felt like punts to keep Shaw focused on maintaining fitness and keeping his place in the team (in other words, they were intended to be back-ups and nothing more).

The club has never really taken the full back position seriously over the past decade, and it's to their detriment.
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There’s a lot of things we haven’t taken seriously it seems. And I’m not sure how competition for places helps a player avoid recurring injuries (a criticism of the clubs thinking, not your post). I’m fairly sure Shaw doesn’t choose to have recurring hamstring issues. It’s similar to the James situation at Chelsea, except Chelsea went out and bought a top class understudy, whereas we Fannie’s about with half measures and hoped on a falling star that Shaw would avoid injury.

For a lot of these players who have recurring hamstring issues, you feel the problem actually lies elsewhere. In their hips, lower back, groin or calves, putting excessive strain on their hamstrings, leading to tears. The answer, I’ve always felt, lies in yoga - or a similar holistic flexibility programme. I remember Giggs having almost career ending hamstrings injuries, until he discovered daily yoga and addressed the tightness in his lower back.
 
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