Manchester united in kaka loan deal

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It's mostly bullshit,

But come to think of it, we're not exactly enemy with Jose, and he's got a good rythm going there with Ozil and the rest, and to accomodate Kaka will have to disrupt the balance, sending him to United for 4 months is a good move to get him back to fitness level, and getting valuable first team game against real opposition.

but for 50M? we can't afford to blow that much on 1 player i fear
 
RDCR07 said:
But a loan deal would actually suit Madrid after the summer because IF Kaka was to come here and get good game time, then he is going to be match fit and maybe get his form back by the end of the season. Then he could have a good pre season and do well next year.

But if he is going to stay at Madrid, then his opportunities are going to be limited and hence his recovery time is also limited. So I think this is a shrewd plan on the part of Mourihno and Madrid.
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A loan might make sense, but a loan to a side that could contend the champions league with them makes no sense.

If Kaka goes on loan to a Manchester club it'll be to City. But more than likely he'll move to Serie A.
 
Well first of all: The Daily Star :(

Forgetting that there are some things to consider why this would be a good loan deal.

1.) Kaka is one of the best players in the world and should he find his form he has ability to simply drag teams to success, much like our Wayne.
2.) It would be a wise move by SAF for silencing those few critics in the papers and amongst the fans both our own and rivals who feel that United struggle to attract the top name players.
3.) He could fit seamlessly into our 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 formation
4.) He was a known admirer of United even before Spoony interviewed him!

As one of my favourite players I realise I'm not lucky enough for this happen.

But feck me if it did morning wood would become constant wood.
 
first of all fergie said we aint buying, so nip that in the bud, however a deal like this would be awesome as we clearly are missing a creative midfielder.
 
These kinds of loan deals are happening more and more. We should only do this loan thing if we set a reasonable price for him should the loan be a success. Otherwise we take the risk of playing him into the premier league only to be outbid for his permanent move, probably by City. That's why I can't see it happening; imagine how much would be made of it if we had him he plays out of his skin and then City take him from us.
 
I think the only way Kaka's coming to us in January would be as a swap for Rooney - so it's not happening.

The only "reports in Spain" about Real Madrid in January are that Mourinho is still complaining that he wants a #9. It's almost certain that Higuain is having a back operation which will put him out for at least three months (he's spent the last 6 weeks trying to avoid the operation). Madrid don't want to buy in January, so they may be looking for a loan coming in - maybe Adebayor or someone

Kaka to Chelsea. Drogba to Madrid. ;)
 
zub2007 said:
first of all fergie said we aint buying, so nip that in the bud, however a deal like this would be awesome as we clearly are missing a creative midfielder.
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Loaning isn't buying. It's possible, but you have to laugh at the source and treat it with contempt. Although saying that, everyone laughed at the Mail breaking Rooney wanting to leave, then they were right. Then everyone laughed at the Mail breaking Tevez transfer request, then they were right. I know this is the Star, but there's a first time for everything. I doubt it will happen too but will wait and see.
 
I doubt we'd take him for that price. Madrid rarely recoup the full value of their overpriced outlays on these players (Sneijder, Robben, VDV etc). If this is true then I would see a £30mil price as reasonable IF he impresses
 
Zarlak said:
Loaning isn't buying. It's possible, but you have to laugh at the source and treat it with contempt. Although saying that, everyone laughed at the Mail breaking Rooney wanting to leave, then they were right. Then everyone laughed at the Mail breaking Tevez transfer request, then they were right. I know this is the Star, but there's a first time for everything. I doubt it will happen too but will wait and see.
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You just can't compare the Daily Mail football reporting to that of the Star. It would be complete muppetry to get excited by an "exclusive" in Star. What kind of contacts do you think they have in Spanish football? The same contacts that turned out to be the imagination of one of their journos who was caught making up quotes from the likes of Casillas?
 
It's the Star FFS and United don't buy or even loan Galacticos.
 
and hey tevez. we loaned tevez recently. Tevez is an expensive star.
 
charleysurf said:
You just can't compare the Daily Mail football reporting to that of the Star. It would be complete muppetry to get excited by an "exclusive" in Star. What kind of contacts do you think they have in Spanish football? The same contacts that turned out to be the imagination of one of their journos who was caught making up quotes from the likes of Casillas?
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I didn't compare the Mail to the Star, I listed examples of a laughable source turning out to be right because it happens every once in a while. The name is irrelevat. The Star has multiple journos, one of them may come good at some point in their life. It's arrogant to write it off without waiting and seeing. I don't hold out much hope but I'm not stupid enough to laugh it off when I might get proved wrong. A la Rooney, a la Tevez.
 
Theres no way Madrid loans Kaka to anyone.

He will be an important key to Madrid's immediate future and i think that Mourinho will bring out the best of him.
 
The point is, if he isn't fit enough or good enough at this time, for them, he cant be fit enough or good enough for us, I hope he gets back to being the player he was, and once he gets his fitness and form back fine, it might be OK to send top players on loan to lower clubs to recover, but not to United. And think its a bullshit story anyway.
 
Sky1981 said:
It's mostly bullshit,

But come to think of it, we're not exactly enemy with Jose, and he's got a good rythm going there with Ozil and the rest, and to accomodate Kaka will have to disrupt the balance, sending him to United for 4 months is a good move to get him back to fitness level, and getting valuable first team game against real opposition.

but for 50M? we can't afford to blow that much on 1 player i fear
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I'd be very surprised if any club would pay anywhere near that for him given his injury problems.

If he goes out on loan I reckon he'll end up back in italy.
 
Allforone said:
The daily star does it again.....what a load of wank, Sir alex would never pay 50 million for Kaka and as if Madrid would just loan him to us for the foreseeable.

Jesus christ.
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This says it all for me.

If he is on offer for a loan move then Harry will already have snapped him up.

(Nevertheless I'd love him to come on loan to us)
 
Allforone said:
The daily star does it again.....what a load of wank, Sir alex would never pay 50 million for Kaka and as if Madrid would just loan him to us for the foreseeable.

Jesus christ.
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Ha!

Seriously this is one of the worst possible scenarios.
 
Kaka needs games. A run of games. It's an awkward situation for Madrid and the player. I'm not sure why people bring up the price. That is irrelevent. You don't pay the price prior to the loan do you? It makes it irrelevent. Who knows where he'll end up
 
Indeed, it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us their second most expensive player ever for a few months see how he does and if we fancy him let us have him permanently, sort of a nice little trial, here you go United see if you fancy Kaka for a few months, money? pfft dont be silly its our new years gift to you.....

Seriously.....
 
In fairness it's exactly the type of thing Real Madrid pride themselves on doing to keep their position at the top of the retard table intact:

1. Real Madrid
2. Newcastle
3. Liverpool
4. Manchester City
5. Blackburn Rovers
 
Allforone said:
Indeed, it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us their second most expensive player ever for a few months see how he does and if we fancy him let us have him permanently, sort of a nice little trial, here you go United see if you fancy Kaka for a few months, money? pfft dont be silly its our new years gift to you.....

Seriously.....
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but... but..... it's Kaka.
 
Allforone said:
Indeed, it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us their second most expensive player ever for a few months see how he does and if we fancy him let us have him permanently, sort of a nice little trial, here you go United see if you fancy Kaka for a few months, money? pfft dont be silly its our new years gift to you.....

Seriously.....
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Or.... you could say, indeed it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us a player that doesn't fit into their current system and is out of favour and never plays at Madrid. Considering it's common for loans have a view to purchase tagged onto it then it then this is only common sense. Here you go United, this player doesn't fit into our plans and never gets any games. See if you like him and you can buy him for X price.

You can spin it both ways.
 
Zarlak said:
Or.... you could say, indeed it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us a player that doesn't fit into their current system and is out of favour and never plays at Madrid. Considering it's common for loans have a view to purchase tagged onto it then it then this is only common sense. Here you go United, this player doesn't fit into our plans and never gets any games. See if you like him and you can buy him for X price.

You can spin it both ways.
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You can, ones realistic the others a fairytale, anyone who honestly believes Madrid would 'loan' Kaka to anyone isn't in their right mind.
 
Allforone said:
You can, ones realistic the others a fairytale, anyone who honestly believes Madrid would 'loan' Kaka to anyone isn't in their right mind.
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At the risk of sounding like a stuck record, you could have made the exact same argument about Barcelona loaning Ibrahimovic out to Milan.
 
Allforone said:
Indeed, it would be so very nice of Real Madrid to loan us their second most expensive player ever for a few months see how he does and if we fancy him let us have him permanently, sort of a nice little trial, here you go United see if you fancy Kaka for a few months, money? pfft dont be silly its our new years gift to you.....

Seriously.....
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Plus why would they want to strengthen their champions leagues rivals considering Kaka will be eligible to play in Champions League for any other club.
 
Allforone said:
You can, ones realistic the others a fairytale, anyone who honestly believes Madrid would 'loan' Kaka to anyone isn't in their right mind.
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No, one is a story spun and worded in such a way as to make it sound laughable (yours) and the other is a matter of fact, players who aren't in favour often go out on loan. Period. Doesn't matter the name, various big names have already been cited. Just because Real paid a lot of money for him doesn't mean he's never going to leave. You don't keep someone you don't want to use at the club just because you paid a lot of money for him. You consider your options. You also cannot expect to make a profit on a 28 year old player, he will never sell for 50m and I believe he would sell for less. You can't buy an ageing player and expect to make a profit.
 
Zarlak said:
No, one is a story spun and worded in such a way as to make it sound laughable (yours) and the other is a matter of fact, players who aren't in favour often go out on loan. Period. Doesn't matter the name, various big names have already been cited. Just because Real paid a lot of money for him doesn't mean he's never going to leave. You don't keep someone you don't want to use at the club just because you paid a lot of money for him. You consider your options. You also cannot expect to make a profit on a 28 year old player, he will never sell for 50m and I believe he would sell for less. You can't buy an ageing player and expect to make a profit.
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Ok, we shall just have to respectfully agree to disagree then.

If kaka is loaned out to us or anyone of such stature ill eat my penis.
 
This article is pure shite! It will never happen. Amazing that so many fans on here never learn about the infamous once a week wild rumors of the Daily Star Sunday
 
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