Manchester City under Pep Guardiola | Pep on City v Liverpool ref: "He likes to be special"

Wow, he really does seem to be cracking up a bit. He looks like he's aged already since being in the PL, comes across like a crackhead in his interviews, and doesn't seem to be enjoying his time at City so far.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it's as though he's not coping with the pressure of so many clubs in the mix and it's not quite the fairytale he thought it'd be.

He'll obviously do alright if he sticks around, but it looks like he'll have fallen apart after two seasons :lol:
 
Watching City lately reminds me of United under van Gaal. Sideways passing with not much to show for it. Seems like the City squad haven't totally bought into his philosophy yet and the frustration from Pep is starting to show. Not much squad depth either.

I'm not going to write off Pep yet though but definitely worrying signs there for City.
 
:lol: It begins!!

Great coach, easily one of the best around at the moment but hes not had a challenge like the PL before, a league in which 6-7 teams have a genuine shot at winning it and you have to be at the top of your game even against the smaller sides else you're dropping points. Pep seems to burn out, this league will be a real battle for him.
 
He needs to have the right players. That's it. He tried to play tiki-taka with Lahm and Alaba as midfielders.

I said that before. The players aren't capable of the football he's trying to play, and he comes across as too arrogant to change his approach.

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He needs to have the right players. That's it. He tried to play tiki-taka with Lahm and Alaba as midfielders.

His picking from a very limited pool of players that can play the kind of game he wants. The modern football manager needs to be more adaptable, especially in this league.
 
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Their next 3 Premier League games. If we beat Liverpool I can definitely see us overtaking them, 3 pretty tough games for them.
 
I'd be amazed if he changes his approach. He seems to really strongly believe in it and I don't think it is humanly possible to win this league by playing this kind of football. I could be wrong, but I don't think they can do it under Pep. Also, and this is a genuine observation, he looks genuinely very unimpressed with Man City as a club, for all the talk about how frustrated and unhappy Jose has looked.. why aren't the same people turning their attention to Pep?
 
I said that before. The players aren't capable of the football he's trying to play, and he comes across as too arrogant to change his approach.

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Exactly. You especially lack midfielders capable of a good high pressing like Guardiola wants.
 
I'd be amazed if he changes his approach. He seems to really strongly believe in it and I don't think it is humanly possible to win this league by playing this kind of football. I could be wrong, but I don't think they can do it under Pep. Also, and this is a genuine observation, he looks genuinely very unimpressed with Man City as a club, for all the talk about how frustrated and unhappy Jose has looked.. why aren't the same people turning their attention to Pep?
think this is the root of it
 
His picking from a very limited pool of players that can play the kind of game he wants. The modern football manager needs to be more adaptable, especially in this league.

This. If he then manages to win the PL but struggle in the CL like he did at his time at Bayern, people will start saying he can't do it without a player of Messi's calibre. So many excuses for a man who is supposedly a genius. A genius would be able to figure this out, having spent the most of any team in the EPL on transfers this season, improving an already very good squad.
 
The interview is seriously unimpressive, but the retirement remarks are just plain weird. Why on earth would you say that right now?
 
I can see why he needed a season off. Can't be good for his health being this furious even after they win. His hand was literally shaking in the post match interview they showed on SS news.
 
Cant really blame him, he's managed two historical clubs before this and is now at a plastic 'project' with poor fans. Must be incredibly underwhelming.

He must have known that aspect of it though.

Maybe he didn't realise how big a rebuild job it was going to be in terms of the squad but surely he was aware of the general apathy that surrounds City. The empty seats, the small history etc.
 
Agreed, as I posted earlier it's not a bad season and averaging over 2 PPG in the first half of the season is fine.

The media are cnuts though, and alienating them won't help his cause.

agree 100 percent. Only have to look at how most managers change to deal with them. Even though the guy gives me nightmares one of the things I always admired about sir Alex was how he knew when to and when not to lay into them
 
The interview is seriously unimpressive, but the retirement remarks are just plain weird. Why on earth would you say that right now?

Pique... and I'm not talking about the bearded Spanish chap.
 
Not surprising that he's looking to retire in a few years. I've always thought his wild gestures on the sidelines looked deranged, it's probably due to stress.
As someone said earlier, it looks like he's landing a plane.
 
The interview is seriously unimpressive, but the retirement remarks are just plain weird. Why on earth would you say that right now?

He is tired, at Barça said something like that in the last season there.
 

This is exactly why city fans feel f##ked over with sky and the bbc. Klopp does that 40 times a game and the response was subdued at anfield vs city. Not a word, pep does it and it's funny. Nothing against Klopp or Liverpool but it's the media narrative with us. De Bruyne did the same and in better view, outside of where he took the corner nothing either. Blue moon and the idiot brigade aren't helping and the minority of idiots are playing right into city fans turn on pep narrative.
 
I'd be amazed if he changes his approach. He seems to really strongly believe in it and I don't think it is humanly possible to win this league by playing this kind of football. I could be wrong, but I don't think they can do it under Pep. Also, and this is a genuine observation, he looks genuinely very unimpressed with Man City as a club, for all the talk about how frustrated and unhappy Jose has looked.. why aren't the same people turning their attention to Pep?
Certainly not impressed with the fans. Called them out multiple times this season.
 
Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester City

Pep one of these is the odd one out. I'm sure I've said this before as well, I promise I'm not constantly twitching and fingering my nostrils.
 
This is exactly why city fans feel f##ked over with sky and the bbc. Klopp does that 40 times a game and the response was subdued at anfield vs city. Not a word, pep does it and it's funny. Nothing against Klopp or Liverpool but it's the media narrative with us. De Bruyne did the same and in better view, outside of where he took the corner nothing either. Blue moon and the idiot brigade aren't helping and the minority of idiots are playing right into city fans turn on pep narrative.
Get your point. it's a cheap shot at City fans. But I was having a look at bluemoon and they too have an issue with the atmosphere at the stadium. But guess most big clubs in England, have the same issue.
 
This is exactly why city fans feel f##ked over with sky and the bbc. Klopp does that 40 times a game and the response was subdued at anfield vs city. Not a word, pep does it and it's funny. Nothing against Klopp or Liverpool but it's the media narrative with us. De Bruyne did the same and in better view, outside of where he took the corner nothing either. Blue moon and the idiot brigade aren't helping and the minority of idiots are playing right into city fans turn on pep narrative.
the first time Klopp done it he was quoted ' I felt very alone' when Liverpool fans were down in the dumps. Lets see how City fans respond
 
Get your point. it's a cheap shot at City fans. But I was having a look at bluemoon and they too have an issue with the atmosphere at the stadium. But guess most big clubs in England, have the same issue.

There is a huge issue. We are not yet a big enough club for 50k supporters in the stadium. There is an old guard of idiots on bm who spout bile and over react to everything because of not our firm but Chelsea. They hyped pep up as the 2nd coming and he has always said he's been lucky to have the players he had at Barca and bayern. Those with a clue know that pep is a great manager but one of many worldwide and this would be his toughest test which he's probably scoring a b or c on atm.
 
He really can't stand them :lol: Pep hates his own fans.

He's realised that they're not of the scale of clubs he managed before. Money is fine but the harsh reminder that city are small will always be there especially with Manchester United reminding him of this every single day he goes about his day to day affairs. It's like he is now the manager of a money rolled Espanyol.
 
There is a huge issue. We are not yet a big enough club for 50k supporters in the stadium. There is an old guard of idiots on bm who spout bile and over react to everything because of not our firm but Chelsea. They hyped pep up as the 2nd coming and he has always said he's been lucky to have the players he had at Barca and bayern. Those with a clue know that pep is a great manager but one of many worldwide and this would be his toughest test which he's probably scoring a b or c on atm.

I asked this question on twitter today and I'd like to put it to you. What happens to Pep if you don't make the top 4?
 
Joining City was Pep's biggest mistake of his managerial career so far.

He could've had any job in world football and he decides to join City. That too after managing Barca and Bayern. City aren't even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as those two European supergiants.

Anyway, maybe it's just me but for the first time today I've started to see the media perhaps turning against the PL poster boy. Something certainly to keep an eye on.
 
I am sure it must be frustrating going from managing elite clubs like Barca and Bayern to managing plastic like City but then again, he chose for City himself...he wasn't forced to.
 
I asked this question on twitter today and I'd like to put it to you. What happens to Pep if you don't make the top 4?
ManCity are actually quite "patient" with their managers. Mancini was the coach for 4 years and Pellegrini was only sacked after 3 years because they had the chance to sign Guardiola.
 
just watching MOTD... Pep looked exhausted in his post match interview and in a foul mood too. Big test for the guy and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a meltdown within a year in England.

If he rides the first year and gets top four then I think he'll ultimately win a lot with City - but it's nice he's not just turned up and bossed the Premier League like everyone said he would (and that's not purely an anti-city thing, it's good for the league to show that even someone like Pep finds it a hell of a test both mentally and physically).