Man Utd?

The first part is true, and old habits die hard, so many older fans still use it. I would say that "Man Utd" was the most common graffito in those days, seen scrawled across walls and in bogs all over England.

Yeah I learned to call it Man Utd in the mid 70s from my English coach. I try and say United now to appease all the sensitive types here ;).
 
This is from ThaBigBoss in the newbies.
He asked if I'd post it for him ,so here goes.......



Right Folks here we go once "AGAIN" and for all....... Man Utd is not a term REAL / TRUE United fans refer themselves to... WHY??? This term is mostly only used by other supporters as a complete and utter insult.

In case anyone on this board is not aware rival supporters used to sing a song about Munich and it goes:
Man Utd Man Utd went on a plane, Man Utd Man Utd never came back again...
Now if thats not getting your blood boiling nothing will..

I started this thread way last year on another forum because after being on that board for some time I found more and more people refering to us as THAT name.

We are UNITED, MAN UTD, MANCHESTER UNITED, RED DEVILS. We do not have any songs with THAT name in them nor will you be able to buy any official merchandice using that term, it is not printed on any scarves or badges, also I was at the Reading game and there is no way did that song ring out around the ground.
Now I have been a "United" supporter all my life I am 18 and have never used that phrase to describe the name of my team. It even has annoyed me to write about the song with the name in it, but thought I had to just to get my point over to people who have never heard it ( real United fans forgive me please )

It goes:
Man
U
Never
Intended
Coming
Home

You dont use the phrase Man C Leeds U Aston V etc etc. So dont use 'Man Utd'. Like the song goes "Theres Only One United" so people will know who you support when using this term. All said whenever someone calls us 'Man Utd' I simply correct them. And I think this should be implimented on this board.

So come on lads lets educate the ones that need it and keep THAT name away form our club and this board.The term Utd is the proper abbreviation for the word United and nothing else.Why can some people not just accept this and get over themselves....

If anyone still doesnt understand the "u" is meant to be "you" by the rival fans. It wasnt just chants it was also popular to write this as graffiti
as far as i know this insult dates back to the early 60,s and it wasnt ´Pile fans surprise.

There was huge competition between clubs to sign Duncan Edwards when he was a schoolboy in the early 50s and there was even a newspaper campaign in the midlands to pressure him into signing for a midlands club, as he came from Dudley. His signing for United caused a lot of people in the midlands to regard him as a traitor and he was painted as such by local rags and was a bit of a hate figure for some idiots.
As far as i know it was West Brom fans who first sang (and sorry for posting this)

Duncan Edwards is manure,rotting in his grave
Man You are manure-rotting in your grave

The origin of 'Man Utd' is a song to insult the dead Duncan Edwards.
The ´Pile and Leeds fans copied this with their own 'Man You' /u versions to insult all of the lads who died at Munich.
I hope that makes it a bit clearer that saying Man Utd is a mortal insult, particularly to the older supporters and is fighting talk TBH. A lot of rival fans got a good kicking for the 'Man Utd' insult and to see so-called united fans using it now is shameful.

I hope a few might read this,understand and spread the word.

I also hope a few other people can add a bit to this as i am sure it is only half the full story.

Thanks, ThaBigBoss
 
Bloody good post that.

If he posts like that regularly surely he should be promoted ?
 
Speaking as a fan for over 50 years, I think ThaBigBoss overdoes it, though. First of all, Man You is not the same as Man Utd - it just sounds the same. Second, Man Utd is just an ungrammatical way of writing Man. U. with the proper full stops for abbreviation. Third, Man. U. was, perhaps sometimes still is, a commonly used abbreviation in newspapers which publish league tables, when there is not enough space to write the whole name Manchester United. This abbreviation existed independently of any slur the rival fans dreamt up. Personally, I believe Man Utd should be tolerated on these boards. I can assure him that many bona fide fans referred to their team as Man Utd.
 
I always thought it was an American thing. In the U.S. college sports are huge, and we always abbreviate "University" to "U" for the college sports teams. For example - Idaho U, Oklahoma U, Boston U etc.

I've noticed before on Arsenal, 'Pool or Chelsea forums that they always use "Man Utd", so I guessed they were throwing the large U.S. fan base/American ownership business in English United fans' faces.

But if ThaBigBoss is right about it going back to Duncan Edwards then I guess I'm wrong. I have noticed it used all the time by the soccer media in the U.S. though, and it is used as an abbreviation on the ESPN graphics, so maybe the American connection is the reason it draws more attention from friend and foe alike these days.
 
Well in Manchester and Salford most people say either united or Man Utd, especially if they're over a certain age. I'm talking about the locals,born and bred in terrace houses and match going from being kids. My mates mam is in her late 70s and still goes to every home game and if you told her she could'nt say Man Utd the look she would give you would be enough.They would probably be bemused by kids and OOTs telling them what they are allowed to call their club.
We even have songs with Man Utd in them but they're not aired much anymore.

The dislike of Man Utd is a modern thing and probably comes from a similar ideology as the anti-shirt wearing crowd.

If this thread was shown to the pensioners in my local,wearing scarves and wooly hats with badges on to watch the match on pirate sky because they can't go to OT any more they would shake their heads and mutter into their mild.
 
Well in Manchester and Salford most people say either united or Man Utd, especially if they're over a certain age. I'm talking about the locals,born and bred in terrace houses and match going from being kids.

I'm well over 30 now. . .and I've never heard anyone in Manchester say 'Man Utd'. That includes match going regulars, armchair fans. . .and anyone who associates themselves with Manchester United.
 
come on Man Utd, come on Man Utd,
come on Man Utd come on...
come on Man Utd, come on Man Utd,
come on Man Utd come on...
 
Well in Manchester and Salford most people say either united or Man Utd, especially if they're over a certain age. I'm talking about the locals,born and bred in terrace houses and match going from being kids. My mates mam is in her late 70s and still goes to every home game and if you told her she could'nt say Man Utd the look she would give you would be enough.They would probably be bemused by kids and OOTs telling them what they are allowed to call their club.
We even have songs with Man Utd in them but they're not aired much anymore.

The dislike of Man Utd is a modern thing and probably comes from a similar ideology as the anti-shirt wearing crowd.

If this thread was shown to the pensioners in my local,wearing scarves and wooly hats with badges on to watch the match on pirate sky because they can't go to OT any more they would shake their heads and mutter into their mild.


Reminds me a bit of what has happened with the term soccer, which has been around for a long time - in this country - and is not actually the preserve of Americans, as is sometimes supposed. I would personally never call it soccer, but the term was not invented by yanks who dont know what real football is.

Personally, I think: bore off - who gives a feck what people call the team? Call it whatever you want and stop being such self important, sanctimonious cnuts, dictating what others should call Manchester United.

Though I didnt know the origins of Man Utd until I read the above threads, and that is an interesting bit of history. Irrelevant now, though, in my opinion. Hitler invented Volkswagens, doesnt make me a Nazi for owning one. Times change.
 
I'm well over 30 now. . .and I've never heard anyone in Manchester say 'Man Utd'. That includes match going regulars, armchair fans. . .and anyone who associates themselves with Manchester United.

I'm 41 born and bred less than 2 miles north of the city centre and I know people (match going and armchair)who say Man Utd as much as united and would think the whole debate is a load of bollocks.Then again maybe I'm mistaken or lying for some reason:wenger:
 
I'm 41 and live less than 2 miles north of the city centre and most people I know say Man Utd as much as united.Then again maybe I'm mistaken or lying for some reason:wenger:

Not implying that you're lying. . .or even mistaken, just that I've never come across that term in Manchester. . .and I've lived here all my life.
 
Not implying that you're lying. . .or even mistaken, just that I've never come across that term in Manchester. . .and I've lived here all my life.

It must depend on which side of Manc you live then, as I say, its a non issue as far as anyone I know is concerned.
 
It must depend on which side of Manc you live then, as I say, its a non issue as far as anyone I know is concerned.

I've lived all over Manchester. I think it's possibly down to age. That said, in Manchester you don't even need to say 'Man' United, surely just United or City(for the Blues) is sufficient. For example, I've never called Manchester City, Man City just plain old City. . .or sometimes the Blues.
 
I've lived all over Manchester. I think it's possibly down to age. That said, in Manchester you don't even need to say 'Man' United, surely just United or City(for the Blues) is sufficient. For example, I've never called Manchester City, Man City just plain old City. . .or sometimes the Blues.

You're right about that, mostly people just say uni-id or reds and city and blues for example my mam (salfordian) says reds for us and "them" (with disdain) for city.If she ever says the word city she always laughs as she says it (some kind of tick I think;).

Its a non issue that belongs with should OOTs feck off and is everyone who wears a shirt at the match (excluding kids) a prick.
 
'Man Utd' is what the ABUs, the cockneys and the clueless call us. If you fit into any of those categories please carry on.

It's United, Man United or just plain Manchester (really pisses off city, that)

BBC 5Live pundit David Pleat(him of Maine Road dancing loafers and flapping suit Man City relegation fame) always refers to United as "Manchester". Trevor Brooking used to be the same on Match of the Day but at least he had the excuse of being from some other "United" named club( still pissed me off though).

As for the Man Utd thing. This tag has been around for decades and though not my preferred nomenclature for this football club we love, using it is not a slur nor should it be a tool to beat other United fans with in the tedious I am redder and more local than you argument.
However, I would admit the guy who said it was an abbreviation too far for such a great club has a point and you still see silly nomenclature like "Man Yoo" as the standard way of naming United on some general football sites.

I would rather have Man Utd than Manchester.
 
I've lived all over Manchester. I think it's possibly down to age. That said, in Manchester you don't even need to say 'Man' United, surely just United or City(for the Blues) is sufficient. For example, I've never called Manchester City, Man City just plain old City. . .or sometimes the Blues.

That's what its down to. If you live round here its either United or City, and no matter who I talk to its 'United' that I support, they know who you mean.
 
I quite like it when we're refered to as just "Manchester". Despise "Man Utd" though.
 
Living in Sydney, I love it when experts tell me that there are more City fans in Manchester than United fans, and have also been questioned when I refer to United as 'The Reds'. They have told me in all their wisdom that it is Liverpool who are called the Reds and that United are known as 'The Red Devils'.
Never when I have been to Old Trafford or in the pub in Manchester or Sydney or wherever ever heard anyone refer to us informally as 'The Red Devils' except perhaps in a newspaper article.
 
I always said " M U " :devil:

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You see, theirs the difference, my self and as far as i know, all my mancunian mates, have always reffered to us as 'Man United'.

Now you see, Bury is only 10 ish miles out of Mancunia but it could seem a lot further, you lot have diferent terminologies and a different accent.

Travel a little further up to Rawtenstall and it could be a different fkin planet "Eh up cock". LOL

My dad moved up to Unsworth but it's two doors down from Whitefield, manchester, but his address is actually now under the Bury area but everyone has a Manc accent.
Drive ten minutes up the road past Bury town centre and they really begin to sound like they bum sheep.