Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

[buckooo1978]

following Fergie will be the hardest job in football bar none....

whoever replaces him will need to have the personality, profile, managerial skills and experience to take over and hit the ground running - above all he needs to be a winner

there will be serious pressure on his replacement when a few results don't go our way and you need to be able to win the changing room over with your methods - players who have been used to fergie for years will need to get behind the manager and believe in him....

look at how frank o farrell struggled after Sir Matt

i think the best man for this job is Mourinho - he is a winner, has the profile and personality and I think he will respect the traditions of the club

its crucial that whoever takes over makes use of the nevilles/giggs/scholes/vds, hopefully in coaching capacities and retains guys like rene, ole etc..

the secret of sustained success is the continuation of the methods that have served us well and those guys know what it means to be winners

 

[Randall Flagg]

Harry Redknapp. Seriously this is not a WUM and I expect lots of these and these for this suggestion.

Also he would not be quite my 1st choice that would be Jose.

But if he aint available why not Harry until Jose is ready? When has he ever failed with the exception of Southampton? He has improved every club he has managed

 

[eric le roi]

Still want Blanc

Sir Alex Ferguson claims victory in Wayne Rooney saga down to 24 years of experience - Telegraph

I wonder if SAF would step aside if Mourinho became available in the near future.

Now there's a thought!
I wonder also if Fergie and Mourinho are in personal contact? You never know, they may already have come to some gentleman's agreement.

For me Jose's is the only choice. O'Neill, Hughes have demonstrated they simply don't have what it takes. Blanc not enough experience.

 

[kietotheworld]

But if he aint available why not Harry until Jose is ready? When has he ever failed with the exception of Southampton? He has improved every club he has managed

And without exception they have all turned to shit after he left.

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

 

[Forever Red]

Harry Redknapp. Seriously this is not a WUM and I expect lots of these and these for this suggestion.

Also he would not be quite my 1st choice that would be Jose.

'Arry will be the next England manager

 

[Pogue Mahone]

And without exception they have all turned to shit after he left.

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

That's a quality piece of writing!

I particularly liked the flowchart summing up his managerial style.

 

[Randall Flagg]

And without exception they have all turned to shit after he left.

The Swiss Ramble: Harry's Game

They are using recentish Bournmouth troubles as an example? He can hardly be blamed for them. And there is good reason for what happened to West Ham and Pompey. (He can only be blamed for leaving a sinking ship in both cases, but would have happened with or without him) Southampton were already in the shit when he joined.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

My biggest problem with Mourinho is that he wont stay the course. Since he came into managment as first team coach at União de Leiria in 2001 he is allready on his 5th job less than 10 years later. Now if all that people want is someone to come in for 2-3 years and have success in that time then Mourinho is probably the man for the job, and if he's not going to take it on long term then it would maybe be no harm to have someone come in as a stopgap after Fergie to make life a bit easier for whoever is going to be here long time.

For a longterm successor I still think Moyes is the man for us. I see so much of Ferguson in him and I think what he has done at Everton givin their restricted budget has been brilliant. He has a real eye for spotting talent on the cheap, and unfortunatly I think thats something we're going to need in the future. I know hes won nothing but to be fair no-one would be able to win the EPL with a team like Everton, and keeping them afloat season after season, even finishing in 4th one year is a real achievment.

 

[RedRover]

Mourinhio IS the only choice, he's way out on his own in required credentials for this job and ill be amazed if he isn't the man who succeeds Fergie.

Agreed. Great record at the very top of teh game and tactically the best manager in the world.

He's also the only manager around with enough personality to succeed Fergie and different enough in temprement and style to not be compared.

 

[RedRover]

They are using recentish Bournmouth troubles as an example? He can hardly be blamed for them. And there is good reason for what happened to West Ham and Pompey. (He can only be blamed for leaving a sinking ship in both cases, but would have happened with or without him) Southampton were already in the shit when he joined.

Redknapp will be the next England Manager. Media Darling.

Done well at Spurs but I personally don't think he's ever done anything else of any note at any other club he's been at. Not sure how he's got this great reputation as a genius man manager.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

Do pigs fly - yes - Admit that your tactical mistakes were a large part of the problem.

 

[SirAF]

My biggest problem with Mourinho is that he wont stay the course. Since he came into managment as first team coach at União de Leiria in 2001 he is allready on his 5th job less than 10 years later. Now if all that people want is someone to come in for 2-3 years and have success in that time then Mourinho is probably the man for the job, and if he's not going to take it on long term then it would maybe be no harm to have someone come in as a stopgap after Fergie to make life a bit easier for whoever is going to be here long time.

I think Mourinho would stay for quite some time IF he were to take over after Ferguson.
The reason is that, if the comes, then he will most likely have achieved his ambitions of winning every major league and won, at least, a third CL (at Madrid). The next challenge would surley be *the one* to keep the trophies coming after Sir Alex.

 

[phelans shorts]

My biggest problem with Mourinho is that he wont stay the course. Since he came into managment as first team coach at União de Leiria in 2001 he is allready on his 5th job less than 10 years later. Now if all that people want is someone to come in for 2-3 years and have success in that time then Mourinho is probably the man for the job, and if he's not going to take it on long term then it would maybe be no harm to have someone come in as a stopgap after Fergie to make life a bit easier for whoever is going to be here long time.

Hardly, they were progressive common sense moves, with the exception of getting the sack at Chelsea, so that one can't really be attributed to him.

For a longterm successor I still think Moyes is the man for us. I see so much of Ferguson in him and I think what he has done at Everton givin their restricted budget has been brilliant. He has a real eye for spotting talent on the cheap, and unfortunatly I think thats something we're going to need in the future. I know hes won nothing but to be fair no-one would be able to win the EPL with a team like Everton, and keeping them afloat season after season, even finishing in 4th one year is a real achievment.

I don't see this mini me ferguson in moyes, they aren't even in the Europa league enough really, it's a long way down on Fergie's Aberdeen accomplishments.

 

[marrakoosh]

There is probably a big love-hate thing going on in Mourinho's head over SAF.

He loves(/respects) him because of what a great and successful manager he is, and is someone to aspire to.

But he hates him because he is someone to aspire to, someone that has been more successful than him and that he wants to be better. Mourinho must hate being second best.

Because of this conflicting battle raging in his head, he'll take it and challenge himself to do better than SAF, and he'll love it even more if he does it whilst at the club that SAF was with. It'll be similar to SAF challenging to beat Liverpool, and probably similar to the whole Clough-Revie thing.

We're in for a good ride fo' sho'.

 

[Cling Bak]

I've been saying this for so long now and my view hasn't changed, I would like Mourinho to be our next manager for what quality he has and I think he fits the bill.

BUT...

He would offer no stability. He ups and leaves places very quickly. Nobody on here is suggesting we can't think about Mourinho when he's only just taken over at Madrid. Everyone (quite rightly, in my opinion) is suggesting he'll be available in 2-3 years.

And that's Madrid. So why wouldn't he do the same to us? Particularly when I think one day he'll want the Portugal job.

If we get someone, I want it to be for the long term, assuming they're any good.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

I think Mourinho would stay for quite some time IF he were to take over after Ferguson.
The reason is that, if the comes, then he will most likely have achieved his ambitions of winning every major league and won, at least, a third CL (at Madrid). The next challenge would surley be *the one* to keep the trophies coming after Sir Alex.

To contradict myself a small bit and to agree with you, there is a good arguement to be made for Mourinho actually settling down if he came to a club like United. Like where else has he to go? What more chalenges has he to face. He has been very successful at every club he's been at, but he's really done it all in most of the countries that really count. If he was to come to OT and manage our lot where would he go after. Every move he's made so far could be argued as a step upwards and progressing to bigger and bigger clubs. Really both Real and ourselves would be the pinnicle in that ladder.

 

[phelans shorts]

I've been saying this for so long now and my view hasn't changed, I would like Mourinho to be our next manager for what quality he has and I think he fits the bill.

BUT...

He would offer no stability. He ups and leaves places very quickly. Nobody on here is suggesting we can't think about Mourinho when he's only just taken over at Madrid. Everyone (quite rightly, in my opinion) is suggesting he'll be available in 2-3 years.

And that's Madrid. So why wouldn't he do the same to us? Particularly when I think one day he'll want the Portugal job.

If we get someone, I want it to be for the long term, assuming they're any good.

First of all Madrid offer no stability, he likely won't have a choice when it comes to leaving, and when it comes on to him not staying anywhere I have addressed that on this page, every move was logical progression barring the times he was sacked at benfica and Chelsea.

 

[Cling Bak]

To contradict myself a small bit and to agree with you, there is a good arguement to be made for Mourinho actually settling down if he came to a club like United. Like where else has he to go? What more chalenges has he to face. He has been very successful at every club he's been at, but he's really done it all in most of the countries that really count. If he was to come to OT and manage our lot where would he go after. Every move he's made so far could be argued as a step upwards and progressing to bigger and bigger clubs. Really both Real and ourselves would be the pinnicle in that ladder.

Portugal National Team.

Mourinho retiring without having a go at the World Cup is an impossibility.

 

[phelans shorts]

Portugal National Team.

Mourinho retiring without having a go at the World Cup is an impossibility.

He won't go international until he's about 60, he's already said he's too young.

 

[Cling Bak]

First of all Madrid offer no stability, he likely won't have a choice when it comes to leaving, and when it comes on to him not staying anywhere I have addressed that on this page, every move was logical progression barring the times he was sacked at benfica and Chelsea.

If he comes to us next, I have also stated on his page that his next logical step is to manage Portugal.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

I think Mourinho is THE unanimous choice.

Could you BE any more wrong? There are plenty of people on this board alone who dont want him, Sir Bobby doesnt want him,

u·nan·i·mous   /yuˈnænəməs/
[yoo-nan-uh-muhs]

–adjective
1. of one mind; in complete agreement; agreed.
2. characterized by or showing complete agreement: a unanimous vote.

Nope

 

[e.cantona]

Portugal. He wants to win the WC and EC

 

[Cling Bak]

He won't go international until he's about 60, he's already said he's too young.

He'll do it at the right time (like the natural progression you mentioned). If he did 3 years with Madrid and 3 years with us he'd be 53 or 54. I couldn't be certain he wouldn't take the Portugal job by that age.

I just feel that Ferguson wins trophies and becomes more hungry to defend them/win more/create a legacy. Mourinho wants to create a legacy by doing it everywhere and would move on once he'd won trophies with us.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

Portugal National Team.

Mourinho retiring without having a go at the World Cup is an impossibility.

Portugal. He wants to win the WC and EC

Not yet though lads. Surely the move into international football will be in the twilight of his career, not now when he's at his peak.

 

[Cling Bak]

Not yet though lads. Surely the move into international football will be in the twilight of his career, not now when he's at his peak.

In 6-7 years?

 

[Irwinwastheking]

He'll do it at the right time (like the natural progression you mentioned). If he did 3 years with Madrid and 3 years with us he'd be 53 or 54. I couldn't be certain he wouldn't take the Portugal job by that age.

I just feel that Ferguson wins trophies and becomes more hungry to defend them/win more/create a legacy. Mourinho wants to create a legacy by doing it everywhere and would move on once he'd won trophies with us.

This is still the most likely scenario. I'm argueing with myself a wee bit here because I see both sides of the coin. However would it really be any harm if Mourinho did come for 2-3 really sucessful seasons. Maybe win us a 4th CL and then clear the path for a longterm successor who will no longer have to be the one to immediatly replace SAF.

 

[Cling Bak]

This is still the most likely scenario. I'm argueing with myself a wee bit here because I see both sides of the coin. However would it really be any harm if Mourinho did come for 2-3 really sucessful seasons. Maybe win us a 4th CL and then clear the path for a longterm successor who will no longer have to be the one to immediatly replace SAF.

I thought about that scenario as well. No, it would obviously be no bad thing.

Mourinho would definitely be successful so I wouldn't ever turn my nose up at him joining and you could be right, it might be good to have someone follow after 2-3 years of success than 25+ years of success. It's a lot of pressure whatever the scenario, though.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

In 6-7 years?

Its pure speculation. With Mourinho he could decide to go into International football at 55 or he could wait untill he's well into his 60's.

The thing is, as good a manager as we all know he is. Surely to be considered one of the great managers of all time you have to have a legacy at one club where you are their greatest manager of all time. The problem is, Jose would need to be at United for near 15 - 20 yearrs to have any chance of winning enough to be considered our greatest manager. I cant see that happening to be honest.

 

[Barry Red]

It doesn't really matter what any of us think, does it? What really matters is what the owners think. The owners, it must be agreed. don't give a toss for free-flowing, attractive football - they just want success, because success brings in the money.

Now so far it wouild appear that the Glazers have pretty much let the current management team run the club (and let's not get into the whole transfer kitty argument...) without much interference which would indicate that they respect their knowledge, ability and experience. As and when SAF decides it's time to go there will undoubtedly be a high level meeting where the owners and the current management team will decide what type of person they want to bring in, and take it from there. My own opinion (for what it's worth....) is that they will need someone with proven success at one or more high level clubs, experienced with working with world class players, the ability to inspire players to win trophies, the ability to interact positively with the media, and is willing to show commitment to the future of MUFC.

Now the number of managers that could actually meet those criteria are few and (very) far between. Discuss it all you like, but there's only one stand out candidate.

 

[Snow]

Because I don't like Mourinho.

I just don't.

As Bobby Charlton has alluded to he just doesn't seem the Man United type of manager. I don't care about if he does play shite football (points can be made for both arguments tbh)

I just don't like him.

He makes everything about him, he makes some extremely tasteless comments, he doesn't seem to have a history or loyalty with any particular club, his transfers havn't been great, and he's too.. high profile.

We as a club have never been about the biggest and the best. With our transfer policy as others have pointed out we make the players, people adapt to us e don't adapt for them. Someone like Mourinho will come in and want things done this this and that way, he doesn't seem to respect traditions.

He's a safe option. I don't even think he'd be that good out of his comfort zone though. He dropped on at Chelsea and left thier club in a shite position, and he's dropped on at Real with an incredible group of players and a massive transfer buget.

I guarantee you wouldn't like Ferguson if you weren't a United fan. He's probably the most disliked manager in the game. Not disrespected or anything like that, just disliked.

 

[zing]

Portugal National Team.

Mourinho retiring without having a go at the World Cup is an impossibility.

He won't manage Portugal for awhile.. they've been a poor side. He picks his clubs now(after Porto) where he has a good chance of winning. I think this is the reason he said no to the England job a few years back.

 

[Ish]

Alot of lads are rooting for Jose and he will be great here in my opinion, but I honestly think going to Shitty with all that moolah would prove way too tempting for him

I agree with you to an extent but deep down I hope Mourinho would have grown up. I think winning anything with City and their money won't do his reputation any good, nor any harm. People in the game won't respect for him for that.

Been there, done that.

I think he'd see (or I hope he'll see) the challenge of a giant like United - with a bit of money toppling the oil barons of City as a bigger challenge and achievement to his CV and as mentioned before, I don't think I have heard him say a bad word about us since he has left the country. He really does go out of his way to praise all things SAF and MUFC - he even said once that he considers SAF one of his only true friends in football (if my mind is not playing tricks on me, thats what i remember).

He's also said that his next club will hopefully be his last, before he does the Port. national team stint and retires. The only problem I have with Jose is that I'm not sure if he has the mentality to stick it out if things get a bit rough! His never really been around long enough to "rebuild" or take a team through a transitional period.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

I guarantee you wouldn't like Ferguson if you weren't a United fan. He's probably the most disliked manager in the game. Not disrespected or anything like that, just disliked.

This post just brings to my mind one of my mates who's a pool fan. He absolutly hates Fergie. Cant stand listening to him in an interview and cant stand watching him on TV. He calls him only by the name big red nose. However ask him who the greatest manager of all time is, and he wont even mention shankley or any of their greats. 'Big Red Nose' is the only name he mentions.

Hates him, but totally respects him. Thats SAF to other fans.

 

[RedRover]

My biggest problem with Mourinho is that he wont stay the course. Since he came into managment as first team coach at União de Leiria in 2001 he is allready on his 5th job less than 10 years later. Now if all that people want is someone to come in for 2-3 years and have success in that time then Mourinho is probably the man for the job, and if he's not going to take it on long term then it would maybe be no harm to have someone come in as a stopgap after Fergie to make life a bit easier for whoever is going to be here long time.

For a longterm successor I still think Moyes is the man for us. I see so much of Ferguson in him and I think what he has done at Everton givin their restricted budget has been brilliant. He has a real eye for spotting talent on the cheap, and unfortunatly I think thats something we're going to need in the future. I know hes won nothing but to be fair no-one would be able to win the EPL with a team like Everton, and keeping them afloat season after season, even finishing in 4th one year is a real achievment.

Nonsense. He would probably still be at Chelsea if he hadn't got the sack, and after managing in Italy and Spain (with arguably the biggest clubs in the country) - if he does come back to England, where else would he go afterwards? He's been vocal about coming back to England on numerous occaisions and if you believe whats been said in the Media he not only respects Ferguson immensely but loves United as a club. Why wouldn't he want to stay on as long as he can and try to be as succesful as Fergie?

He may move into International Management at some stage but he's not likely to leave a top side to do it while he's still young enough to be at the top.

As for Moyes there is a big question mark hanging over him in terms of stepping up. He's done a fine job with Everton over the years but its a completely different job at United. He's constantly struggling for cash at Everton and the excuse is always there if they don't do well. At United he'll have money to spend and will be expected to succeed. Look at Hodgson at Liverpool - easy to do well with a team nobody fancies, not as easy when you're expected to be up the top of the league.

Another point to consider is the inevitable comparison - a young Scottish manager taking over from Fergie? The pressure would be immense.

 

[Irwinwastheking]

@ Redrover. If you go down through the rest of my posts in this page you will see that i'm argueing with myself over wether Jose would stick around for more than a few years. The most important thing to say about this though is that even if Jose came for a few years and did a good job, won a few trophys and left would it really be a problem. This would greatly improve the situation with regards the next man coming in and not really being under so much pressure.

I certainly wouldnt be in the camp where I think and ex utd player has to take over, although I know a few people who are. Looking at the credentials of those who are plying their trade at the moment you couldnt really say any of them are up to it. I wonder has anyone mentioned Ole though as a potential canditate. He is a hugely popular figure at OT and is well respected by the fans and the players alike. He has no experience, but would surely do the job for a lot less cash than any of the big names that have been mentioned here. This might well come into play as we're not exactly flush at the moment.

 

[ntripunovski]

Mourinho

 

[Irwinwastheking]

Mourinho

Short sweet and to the piont!!

 

[Member 5225]

He'll do it at the right time (like the natural progression you mentioned). If he did 3 years with Madrid and 3 years with us he'd be 53 or 54. I couldn't be certain he wouldn't take the Portugal job by that age.

I just feel that Ferguson wins trophies and becomes more hungry to defend them/win more/create a legacy. Mourinho wants to create a legacy by doing it everywhere and would move on once he'd won trophies with us.

"I will one day play against England with my Portugal but Portugal has to wait a long time."

The Press Association: Mourinho plays down England talk

 

[Plan M]

Because I don't like Mourinho.

I just don't.

As Bobby Charlton has alluded to he just doesn't seem the Man United type of manager...

We have to move with the times I'm afraid. Who is a "United type of manager" in your opinion? I've only known Ron Atkinson and Sir Alex in charge since I've supported them.

Who would you like to see?

A Moyes, O'Neil, Mowbray type of manager?!

Mourinho ticks all the boxes, it's fact. He's a winner and United like winning.

 

[eric le roi]

I reckon I know why Rooney signed a new contract. They sat him down and said "Look, Fergie's off in a couple of years but we've got Mourinho lined up as his replacement and he's bringing Ronnie with him. Sign here, son."