I wonder how the players feel, do they also feel he is inept as a captain? If so, how does that affect the team in terms of morale as well as accountability.
Maguire needs to be replaced
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The players must feel demoralized from minute one having to be led by such an uninspiring captain,everyone at the Club must be aware that he needs replacing,summer can't come too soon!
The fact he still wears the armband is a bad joke.
I guess the positive is that when we do eventually replace him we know that it will be for someone better as it cannot get any worse
He is good when they face teams like Andorra, Barbados or some random country during qualifiers. Why Ole appointed him as a captain when he achieved exactly zilch as a player is mind boggling.He wasnt even captain or vice at LeicesterGood player for England and rubbish for us.
I think maybe he should be stripped of the captaincy to relive the pressure he obviously feels playing for us.
Hoping Newcastle line up an £80m+ bid for him
He needs some time on the sidelines. Definitely needs to the armband taken - not a punishment but, he doesn't inspire as a captain for United should and really should just focused on doing his primary job and that's it.
I don't think there is a more obvious player to bench in the entire squad
It’s been so long since we’ve had a proper captain it seems.
The most shocking things are his lack of composure and inability to read the game. It's almost as if he's completely unaware of his limitations.
I hate to be that guy but his contract runs until June 2025...
I hate to be that guy but his contract runs until June 2025...
Jones was never this bad for this long, injuries saw to that. Jones played in teams that won things/lived up to expectations.
The state of this thread.
Absolutely fecking embarrassing.
Absolutely fecking embarrassing.
I'm not making anything up mate, it's just what I see in Lindelof.
Look, we can argue about who is best suited to partner Varane until we're blue in the face, but if we are being brutally honest, none of Bailly, Maguire, Lindelof or Tuanzebe is good enough to start for a PL title winning side. Like Smalling, Jones, Rojo or Blind before them, all good players to varying degrees but ultimately not good enough.
Why not go for the likes of Skriniar, Koulibaly or Marquinhos? One of the few positives we have going for the club right now is that we have the resources to bring any of those players in. Marquinhos won't be easy, but Pogba would be a strong bargaining chip for any potential deal with PSG.
What don't you like about it?
I feel the likes of him and Rashford are buckling under the pressure. Neither appear to have what it takes to be a leading figure of such a mammoth club. No shame in it and both should be allowed/encouraged to go back to basics and focus on their respective basic duties. The captaincy should be given to someone else and this guy should just be one of our CB options. When he plays, he should just be focused on trying to stay in the first 11. That’s it. If he doesn’t play well...we have options.
Right now he is a complete liability.
Right now he is a complete liability.
Varane-Lindelof/Bailly sholud be the CB pair. Maguires strictly on the bench as a fourth option. Also, promptly sold. Giving him the armband was one of the stupidest decisions this club has made in the past few years.
At the time he gave Maguire the captaincy, who else would you have given it to? The squad lacked leaders massively. I initially thought he would be good at it , and I think at first he was. He seems to have regressed in his leadership and lacks confidence.
Maguire was fairly poor last night. The worse his performances get, the more last ditch errors he makes in desperation, and he will be giving away penalties and free kicks more and more. Pulling ASM over with two hands, shirt pulling last night, these are the kinds of antics we see from him every match. I don't mind that kind of shithousery so much if it is done with a certain cunning but he is doing it to recover from his own poor positioning.
I still think he is a good defender and like the guy, I just think he isn't what we need as captain and I'm not convinced he is not replaceable as a CB. Not our most pressing concern but does need to be considered.
Probably the Qanon levels of hysteria and nonsense posted on here.
What is embarrassing about his thread?
is acknowledging the fact that Harry does not suit a team that wants to play a high line embarrassing?
Is acknowledging the fact that Maguire has been shockingly poor so far in this season embarrassing?
Or is acknowledging the fact that he is not a captain material embarrassing?
Maguire was really solid when we played deeper and played from the counter, however, when we tried to transition to a team playing a higher line then Maguire’s complete lack of speed and agility has been exposed. You can see opposition targeting him when they attack as it is obvious that he can crack under pressure.
Additionally, he is in terrible form now and unable to show his limited strengths at this stage (like aerial prowess).
I don’t think that Pep or Klopp would be able to fit him in their teams due to his obvious deficiencies.
He is a good CB but never a first team CB for a team that wants to win titles on regular basis.
Absolutely. It's amusing, really.
He’s horribly out of form. He’s also much better than his current output.
The idea that he’s some sort of terrible defender is complete and utter bollocks, but he absolutely does need some time out of the firing line when Lindelof is fit again.
The issue there is that Maguire is fit and reliable and will inevitably get back into the team in light of injury or illness. Dropping him is easier said than done.
The idea that he’s some sort of terrible defender is complete and utter bollocks, but he absolutely does need some time out of the firing line when Lindelof is fit again.
The issue there is that Maguire is fit and reliable and will inevitably get back into the team in light of injury or illness. Dropping him is easier said than done.
Its a joke how the blame for Maguires constant mistakes (not just this season but since joining United) is shifted to the other CBs. Varane, Lindelof and Bailly are all good footballers and any given combination for a run of games would be better. Maguire is not good! He is at best (not this season) strong and goos in the air.
Maguires inability to keep position and pass the ball with some pace destroys uniteds defence and build up of attacks.
he is at best a back up CB in a world class club.
Maguires inability to keep position and pass the ball with some pace destroys uniteds defence and build up of attacks.
he is at best a back up CB in a world class club.
I hate to say it but I can't stand him. Does anyone feel like this? I'm sure he is a decent bloke but I just don't like him at all. A shambles that he is the captain and playing week in and week out.
Think it goes both ways, Maguire has been heavily criticised recently but it's not too long ago he was supposedly considered one of the best in the league by many on here.
And the club was in negotiations with him to improve it.
I cant stand him as well. Dont get me wrong, he is still one of the better options among all the CBs we have but that incident in Greece and that England celebration made it really hard for me to like him as a person. And all these captaincy and leadership nonsense dont really amount to anything real as well, if anyhing dislikable people are less likely to be a leader, maybe in title but not in implementation. He is like a lite Lukaku, a little bit petty and thinks he is better than what he shows on the pitch
Same here. Hate that we paid 80m for him. Hate that because of his price tag he is virtually undroppable. Hate that we won’t be able to fix his natural deficiencies that will make it impossible to play effective attacking football.
He is a great asset for a team that wants to sit deep and play from the counter. That’s why he looked very good in Leicester shirt.
What is embarrassing? Criticizing the world most expensive defender and our captain for the absolute shower of shit he is doing every game? oh please.
Maguire would be much more suited to league 1, how on earth he's Man Utd captain is proper mental he offers nothing at all other than moaning ,shirt pulling ,off the pace , shocking never gets any better.
Yeah, things do tend to get hysterical when discussing United players on here
Maguire is a good CB on his day, but he hasn't played anywhere near his best for a good 12 months now. Some time out of the team may help, but his replacements aren't up to much either. Our back line is pretty grim right now.
Similar to OgS. It hurts to be proven wrong when you’ve hitched your wagon to a cart horse.
Heavy criticism is warranted, he’s been that bad for that long.
Rashford is rarely dropped and he’s rubbish so what chance is there we will drop our own captain?
Yeah, things do tend to get hysterical when discussing United players on here
Maguire is a good CB on his day, but he hasn't played anywhere near his best for a good 12 months now. Some time out of the team may help, but his replacements aren't up to much either. Our back line is pretty grim right now.
He would have been dropped to regain a bit of form if we had someone else. Lindelof, Varane, Bailly... can't be depended on to play 10 games in a row.
International football is way different to the speed of the PL. Give Maquire time on the ball and 9 times out of 10 he'll find a decent pass. Pressure him and he crumbles which we've seen time and time again. Not something we need if we're serious about becoming champions again and what choice has Rangnick had about playing him with all the injuries we've had in the CB spot?
I'm not saying get rid of him but for whatever reason this season he's been horrible and needs to be taken out of the firing line until he finds some semblance of confidence which as I said before unfortunately we can't do because for now there really is no one else. Maquire is a better defender than what we're seeing but that doesn't mean the criticism he's receiving isn't unwarranted . It's pretty simple. With the form he's in he shouldn't be playing unless there's no other alternative or do you think he should be untouchable?
This is fair. Whenever a player is as badly out of form as Maguire has been for such an extended period of time, it's almost impossible to remember what they look like in top form. He's had a horrendous season and his confidence looks at rock bottom. We're struggling to come up with 2 fit alternatives at the moment. We'll just have to hope hevplays himself out of it. I'd be happy to see him out of the firing line for a bit.
First the blame was on his CB partner, so we went out and got Varane, so what will it be now? Who's fault is it that he makes at least one big mistake per game?
He doesn't display the necessary leadership skills to be captain of a team competing at the top level. In terms of ability he's hopelessly out of form and is a liability, his lack of pace is alarming and exposes his positional weaknesses. I do believe other teams target him.
Just think about the other teams at the top of the league and their players, if we "lost" Maguire and magically could sign VVD, Dias, Rudiger - who on here would not view that as a massive upgrade? But if those teams signed Maguire from us, don't think they'd view it as a move that strengthened their team.
Just think about the other teams at the top of the league and their players, if we "lost" Maguire and magically could sign VVD, Dias, Rudiger - who on here would not view that as a massive upgrade? But if those teams signed Maguire from us, don't think they'd view it as a move that strengthened their team.
Yep this is exactly how I feel. He's nowhere near as awful overall as people have wanted to make out, but he is performing at that awful level right now, its just sad watching him, every time the ball goes near him he looks shit scared and you expect it to go horribly wrong.
Varane made a big mistake in Toon game and Eric against Burnley. It's all of our defenders who make regular cockups.
His form has been shocking for a prolonged period of time, there’s a point where you need to start saying ‘he’s bad’ and not ‘he’s out of form’.
He’s the captain of United ffs. Criticism will be amplified and rightly so.
He’s the captain of United ffs. Criticism will be amplified and rightly so.
How many more excuses is he going to get?