I’m with you. But Shaw will get the real minutes before him anyway so I’m more relaxed with Lindelof keeping the bench warm.
Maguire? Loan with obligation to buy for 45m. Job done
Maguire | he stays!
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Maguire? Loan with obligation to buy for 45m. Job done
In Reality if Maguire is on his way out the door, good, cause it will take him at least a week to turn round and he will be gone by then. side note BBC FA cup coverage at the moment being compromised by porn noises in the background.
GB, I thought moderating whilst under the influence of hard drugs wasn’t allowed?
It would cost us 40m to buy a replacement and in todays market market, England captain, PL proven, must be worth 40-45m
What good is a loan to us?
Can’t believe I’m going to say this but surely we can’t afford to lose him in January. Loads of games coming up, Varane is unfortunately it seems only a stone throw away from an injury. Just seems like you would keep Maguire and Lindelof as back ups till the summer then look at it again.
If Maguire wants to go there then let him go, even on loan. My condition would be that they pay all his wages. With Shaw showing himself to be excellent in the CB role, I think we'd be fine without him and we wouldn't have to tediously watch him take the captain's armband every time he comes on for the last 3 minutes.
Please send him on loan, I'd feel better about seeing a youth player warming up than him. We need to try and get someone to bid for him and that isn't going to happen while he plays for us.
Geebs this is not even remotely realistic. He was barely even worth that when we bought him!
When did this happen?
Loan, no
Found Ed Woodward's secret account
People are throwing money around like it’s going out of fashion. Lesser players than Hazza are going for more than 40m. What’s the point in us offering bargain prices when nobody else is? We have to get better at selling.
Sell him in the Summer for 20-25m. If we get more then fine but I can't see it.
So right. It feels so forced!!!
Almost like when you have to sleep with the ugly chick so your friend gets the girl he wants... taking one for the team
Sure…. But 45million GBP? Only if GBP stands for “a Golden Blunder Points! In the real world, good luck with that
He would play with Casemiro
Will swap for Rice.
We need the money though. If West Ham or someone is willing to pay his 200k a week salary maybe with a loan fee, we should use the money elsewhere.
We're not short of cover at CB. With Shaw excelling in the position we now have 5 CBs. McTominay plays CB internationally and can be used there too.
Why would we loan him to West Ham anyway, even if we thought Maguire was worthless? It's not the amount of money I'm referring to, it's the club taking him on loan. If West Ham are on their way to drowning, we should be throwing them an anchor, not a life vest. Maguire doesn't suit the ETH system, but he would help West Ham.
Or is this entire thing a wind up from West Ham, asking to loan an 80 million pound player? They're basically saying he's worth nothing. Like saying I'd like to bang your girlfriend for a dollar. It's not really saying what we think it's saying.
Or is this entire thing a wind up from West Ham, asking to loan an 80 million pound player? They're basically saying he's worth nothing. Like saying I'd like to bang your girlfriend for a dollar. It's not really saying what we think it's saying.
This wouldn’t make any sense for us and, I’d argue, for him as well. He’s behind Varane in the pecking order and Varane is injury prone plus we have loads of games. There’s no shame in being Varane’s backup.
He’s not behind Martinez/Shaw because ten Hag really likes left footed players in the left centre back position so he’s not even an option there!
He’s not behind Martinez/Shaw because ten Hag really likes left footed players in the left centre back position so he’s not even an option there!
Hang onto Maguire until the summer, then sell him.
How hard was that?
How hard was that?
Apparently Newcastle are looking for a no. 6?
Properly the same group of people that wished us to employ Potter.
I don't think he's ill at all, so why he's not playing gives huge question marks over his future.
I think he could play a role in the squad but now Shaw is playing LCB which makes me feel Harry's days are numbered I just hope we fetch a good fee for him, and I hope he hits good form and lights it up elsewhere.
I think he could play a role in the squad but now Shaw is playing LCB which makes me feel Harry's days are numbered I just hope we fetch a good fee for him, and I hope he hits good form and lights it up elsewhere.
How is this going to benefit us? He's barely started in the league & is mostly limited to making cameo in the last 2 mins of the game. Even with Martinez out, ETH prefers effing LUKE SHAW in center back. The pecking order for CB seems to be: Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Lindelof...(gap)... Casemiro, McTominay ... (big gap) ... Jadon Sancho, Antony, Marcus Rashford, Harry Maguire (end). He is just not trusted for reasons obvious.
Isn't this the time we get rid of him for what he's worth & invest that in an up & coming CB?
We should have left it at “West Ham can eat a bag of dicks”.
No point in a loan, unless it is with an obligation to buy. Else, we'd rather hold on to him
Putting unrealistic values on players who earn well above their market value in terms of wages is not getting 'better at selling.'
I agree
I agree. Letting him go for 25-30m or less would be a mistake. Not like he's a shite player. He could be plenty useful to some team in the PL.
Up to a point, West ham wouldn't pay what was wanted for Lingard either after a very successful loan with them.
But yeah, Club does need to be harder in negotiations and Maguire, whilst he isn't suited to the football we now play, would slot in pretty well for Moyes I think.
Yea that was my thinking. Kind of a win-win. I think West ham will stay up anyway so very high chance the deal happens.
I can see why West Ham can't agree to a guaranteed purchase if they got relegated (And the player wouldn't move to the Championship).
we would be so defensive.
You underrate Casemiro, and underrate how much more offensive Fernandes or a proper 10 could be
Can't let go players now unless replaced. We need him until summer. Same with AWB and McT.
If any team wants to buy one of your players, the first thing you do (more so the fans than the manager) is look at their team, and identify a player you would want in exchange. West Ham want Maguire, and amongst their team, Rice is arguably the most interesting player, hence why people are automatically saying, if you want Maguire, give us Rice. In reality, it is very rare for swap deals to actually work, so usually it is usually best just to focus on a one way deal, and as a standalone, are we happy for Maguire to go to West Ham? On loan I think is a stupid idea. For a decent fee, this may be our last opportunity to get good money for him, on the back of his strong showing at the WC, as he will lose value sitting on the bench for the next 6 months. However, can we afford to lose squad depth if we have a genuine shot at winning the PL this year? Bringing in another player instead is always a risk, particularly mid-season, and it is good that we are having the opportunity to try out Shaw at CB. I think we will see where we are at the end of the window points wise and with injuries before making a decision.
None, unless it comes with an obligation to buy. I won't care whether it is 40m or 20m, but loan without buy is counter-productive, because we can't find a replacement CB in short notice.
But if someone want Jones, then go ahead, we can subsidize part of his wage as well.