How does it prevent him from sitting on the bench (with 5% probability to be subbed on during the last 10 minutes)?
Maguire | he stays!
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Getting quite frustrated at how long this is taking. We suddenly seem to be slowing down in our transfer business, both in and out.
We have Maguire so no need obviously
No chance he is interested in WH.
Yeah, but they can't sell him without securing his replacement. They aren't able to do that because they aren't good at their jobs.
We need to force him out one way or another. If putting Mengi on the bench helps, it should be done
They can very easily. Defence market is full of talent now
We don’t need to force anything by all accounts he’s happy to move
This fanbase can't even get heated up about an ownership structure that has crippled us for a generation... I'm sure Maguire will be fine with a few more boos
He wants his money and fair play to him, any individual would be doing the same in his situation
I suspect EtH might be resigned to not being able to upgrade Maguire in this window and therefore wants to keep him for now.
United clearly wouldn't entertain it if they were taking the mick. West Ham probably have a pay structure with a ceiling for players they think are the best players they can attract. The difference United might have to pay him off with will likely be difference between that WH ceiling and what Maguire is on now.
Time value of money means that
190k X 2 + 50k X 4 > 100k X 4 + 50k X 2
Simply put: more money today is better than more money in 4 years time, all things being equal
Don't really understand the animosity towards Maguire. Has always been 100% professional even when dicks like CR7 and his cronies were conspiring against him. No matter what you think of him, he's very good as a cover option and I wonder about the same people that want him gone but want Mengi brought in when he doesn't even excel at underage level anymore. In an ideal world I'd prefer him replaced with a younger option more suited to Ten Hag's system but if we're going to have to pay his salary out until the end of his contract even if he goest to West Ham, I'd have no problem with him staying. If I had to keep only him or McT, it'd be McT I'd be getting rid of all day.
The irrational desperation to get rid of Maguire, who is now our 5th choice centre back, is probably a big part of the problems he’s been having. Sure, he’s made mistakes. But he’s not without his merits as a footballer and I think he’d perform much better with a sweeper keeper and a bit of support from his own fecking fanbase
Yeah obviously. We want him gone and trying to cover up our previous feck up (giving him that contract). But still, we haven’t bought out that contract and Maguire can either sit and watch in the stands for two years or try to revive his career.
It depends on how you rate Bale/Bogarde type if decision making.
He doesnt have the speed or recovery pace for a high defensive line, hence the need to get rid of him. WH will suit him perfectly, low defensive line, no space to run in behind and no need for maguire to be put out of his comfort zone.
He is potentially our second choice RCB, if he gets his shit together.
But it’s not satisfactory. We need someone to properly compete with Varane but such players are not common or cheap.
It’s true so
On the bench 
It would be such a short-term thinking. He will be 31 by next summer, with one year on his contract. Let’s assume that somehow we will be able to sell him for 15’ (a big if), with the wages he is on, it will mean that this year of him as fourth/fifth choice would cost around 25m.
Keeping him will be such a United move.
So he's staying?
He’s probably only on the bench to cover us if that absolute worst happens. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
Seems pretty clear we aren't desperate to get rid if he wants to stay.
I think we are pretty desperate as trying to pay him off but not a lot anyone can do if he won’t leave.
He will be suing he’s happy to be on the bench, manager will say he’s happy to have him but in reality it’s a standoff until finances can be agreed.
Has to be a poker game between us and him and his agent... he must want to leave and we want him gone. Who folds first?
Hypothetically, if we keep him for one more year as cover and Pavard stays put to sign for us next summer as a free agent, will we be better off or worse off, financially?
Exactly it’s just a standoff over money now, could be West Ham who fold first if they get fed up and find another option.
We paid off Sanchez so much more just to leave and while it’s not saying much Maguire was a better signing and is worth more on the open market.
We pay another year of his salary, his value will drop significally, will Pavard be interested next season? Might be a financial loss as well as a sporting one
Was always gonna be on the bench. We won't sell him until a replacement is sorted. With Bayern rejecting our offer for Pavard, looks like there is still some negotiations to be done there. So Maguire will stay until Pavard is sorted. Would probably expect this situation to be sorted either towards the end of this week or early next week.On the bench
We don't want to be doing a Liverpool in that we let the player leave before having a replacement sorted.
I agree to an extent, and I think he’ll excel at West Ham. But it’s less of an issue for England because Pickford actually comes off his line. De Gea is a nightmare for a centre back
This was never getting done before our game, Todibo will probably accelerate now after the Bayern news and Maguire is probably gone by Wednesday.
Oh man, this means he’s not agreed to terms. He’s not going anywhere is he?
It says he's agreed terms...
The hold up is that him and United are negotiating the pay off he's going to get for leaving his current contract.
Phew, thanks for the update!
Find it mad he's on the bench tbh, he's obviously off.
Bluffing. They've made him an offer to tear up his contract and he either accepts it or gets used to the best seats in the house to watch United.
Yeah. Madness imo.
cnut, just leave already.