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Because Martinez can pass and is somewhat press resistant
Sure, but Lindelöf had defended well, and Maguire has been useless. Maybe as an arial threat, I guess, but strange nonetheless.
Because Martinez can pass and is somewhat press resistant
This passage of play made me chuckle.Casemiro asks for the ball and Maguire shoos him away, he then steps into midfield like a listing oil tanker and plays a clipped ball to Garnacho that is far to high and takes us backwards.
How did we endure such awful partnership for 2 full years ? Imagine watching a full year of their crap.
Thank god for Martinez and Varane.
It's one or the other plus Martinez/Varane. They're both decent squad players that play better alongside someone who covers their weaknesses.
That first half brought back a lot of memories, not so much about their defending but more the use of the ball: square passes, slow tempo, no help from the midfield either so it's not entirely their fault. I just don't want to ever see that partnership again
Actually a big part of the slow play is down to the midfield, Casemiro makes himself available for a pass, McTominay doesn't, so the square passes are to try and find an angle to play the ball in to midfield rather than go long every time, didn't help that both fullbacks weren't great tonight, especially DalotIt's one or the other plus Martinez/Varane. They're both decent squad players that play better alongside someone who covers their weaknesses.
That first half brought back a lot of memories, not so much about their defending but more the use of the ball: square passes, slow tempo, no help from the midfield either so it's not entirely their fault. I just don't want to ever see that partnership again
Maguire definitely has this trait about him where he wants to be the one creating things when he has 0 ability to do so. The amount of times he keeps the ball for way too long, takes too many touches, all while less glamorous passes are available to him just so he can feel like he's the main man.Casemiro asks for the ball and Maguire shoos him away, he then steps into midfield like a listing oil tanker and plays a clipped ball to Garnacho that is far to high and takes us backwards.
It's one or the other plus Martinez/Varane. They're both decent squad players that play better alongside someone who covers their weaknesses.
That first half brought back a lot of memories, not so much about their defending but more the use of the ball: square passes, slow tempo, no help from the midfield either so it's not entirely their fault. I just don't want to ever see that partnership again
I disagree slightly. Its true that they play badly together but its primarily because Maguire is terrible and he is used to leading Lindelof, whereas with the other two, they know they have to lead Maguire. Maguire thinks too slowly, he moves too slowly, and he's afraid to step up because he turns so slowly. Lindelof looks bad because of Maguire. Varane and Martinez are quick enough to make up for Maguire and they also talk to him more than Lindelof does. Point is I think Lindelof could be a very good center back in time if they dont play together.I hope these 2 never play together again. Along with another CB they are actually OK and have strengths but together they just seem to kill the pace of the game and look like an accident waiting to happen, even against WHam who were useless going forward. They just really don't complement each other.
He’s had almost 6!Sell Maguire and Bailly, put the money towards Min Jae from Napoli. Give Lindelof one more season, if he's still garbage, bin him off too.
He needs a few games with a decent partner!He’s had almost 6!
Excuses, he’s pantsHe needs a few games with a decent partner!
Maguire definitely has this trait about him where he wants to be the one creating things when he has 0 ability to do so. The amount of times he keeps the ball for way too long, takes too many touches, all while less glamorous passes are available to him just so he can feel like he's the main man.
He's done similar before only to get dispossessed in our own half. Some may argue he's a decent defender, but not for a top team.
Sell whichever of the two will raise the most revenue and reinvest in a young promising LCB
Spot on.Yeah it's infuriating. People want to point to his passing stats vs someone like Varane, but the difference is Varane moves the ball quickly even if it's simple passes. Maguire sits on the ball like he's prime fecking Pirlo about to break out a 50 yard peach with his genius, just to pass it sideways again or worse.
I honestly think he gets a bit overrated as a pure defender as well. He's slow to anticipate danger regardless of how physically limited he is anyways. He's not very aggressive in his challenges or a supreme tackler. His only real quality attribute is he's a solid defensive header of the ball.
Holy hell, I never noticed how much of a ballhog Maguire was till his last couple outings. He acts like that kid who brought the ball to the park. When we want to pass side to side to create gaps this fool always decides to dwell on the ball and lets the press regain shape. Every single time. Actually fed up because it's so undisciplined. I don't know if it's the captaincy that warps their brain or they come to us broken. We have team play now so he can stop playing for himself already.Maguire definitely has this trait about him where he wants to be the one creating things when he has 0 ability to do so. The amount of times he keeps the ball for way too long, takes too many touches, all while less glamorous passes are available to him just so he can feel like he's the main man.
He's done similar before only to get dispossessed in our own half. Some may argue he's a decent defender, but not for a top team.
Maybe EtH just prefers Maguie. Who knows.Sure, but Lindelöf had defended well, and Maguire has been useless. Maybe as an arial threat, I guess, but strange nonetheless.
Like if I shooed Gordon Ramsey away from the oven and proceeded to burn the lasagnaMaguire definitely has this trait about him where he wants to be the one creating things when he has 0 ability to do so. The amount of times he keeps the ball for way too long, takes too many touches, all while less glamorous passes are available to him just so he can feel like he's the main man.
He's done similar before only to get dispossessed in our own half. Some may argue he's a decent defender, but not for a top team.
Seeing both of them together, just should seal any opinion that they both need to be sold in the summer
It's quite simply that ETH insists Martinez plays LCB, and Maguire plays RCBMaybe EtH just prefers Maguie. Who knows.