I hope this is just him (understandably) talking himself up in public, and he's not actually this deluded in private to not see what a shiteous player he's been and why he's been reduced to playing "once a month", because he's talking like someone who deserves to be starting or something.
Maguire: “My win rate under current manager is ridiculously high” | “I don’t like playing once a month, will have a chat with club”
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Almost feel a bit sorry for him.
"I want to stay and fight" - he's a dick head, collecting a wage, can't tale a hint, feck off etc
"If I don't play I want to leave" - he's a dick head, self entitled, should fight harder, only himself to blame, feck off etc.
"I want to stay and fight" - he's a dick head, collecting a wage, can't tale a hint, feck off etc
"If I don't play I want to leave" - he's a dick head, self entitled, should fight harder, only himself to blame, feck off etc.
I believe he understands this fully well, the roadblock is always the payoff package. He doesn't want pay cut for the remaining of his Utd contract and that is his position, which is fair.
But he knew he wasnt going to play a lot. Surely he was aware of that in the summer. He decided to stay and he has the right to stay and pick up his money. I have no issue with that. However when he made that decision, while being aware he wasnt going to play a lot, he should know the consequences and not complain about it a few months later.
Well yea, but humans are allowed to make decisions and later change their minds.
Don't think he has complained has he ? He's said he wants to play more and if he doesn't he will have to consider options. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Finally had one decent game where he wasn't booed from start to finish after being absolute garbage for what has felt like forever, and he is straight back to delusion.
This could have been his turn around moment where he could have simply done his thing low-key, let his performance do the talking, and slowly push himself back into the team. But no, just when the memes and attention seem to be dying down, big mouth Harry is back at it again talking plenty and spouting shite to the media, putting himself back into the spotlight where every single thing he does would be seriously scrutinized once again.
Man is unbelievably thick.
We undoubtedly have some of the dumbest players in the league.
This could have been his turn around moment where he could have simply done his thing low-key, let his performance do the talking, and slowly push himself back into the team. But no, just when the memes and attention seem to be dying down, big mouth Harry is back at it again talking plenty and spouting shite to the media, putting himself back into the spotlight where every single thing he does would be seriously scrutinized once again.
Man is unbelievably thick.
We undoubtedly have some of the dumbest players in the league.
You're picking at a meaningless comment and using it to slag him off, which I find quite ridiculous. You may have noticed that all of our games this season are tough games.
He shouldn't have to "keep his mouth shut" if the only reason why is because idiots will twist every harmless he says into an excuse to abuse or criticise him.
It isn't Harry Maguire's problem if some of our online support are incapable of not behaving like children.
He's made a completely harmless comment that has resulted in 7 pages of bizarre and barely relatable abuse from fans of his own team.
The "irony" and "irrelevant" cards haven't landed in your deck on this one I'm afraid.
You seem somewhat angry? Why have you put something in quotation marks as if I said it when anyone who can read Enlgish can see I did not?
I actually defended Maguire for your information, it doesn't change the fact he's started 2 games all season and one was Palace's cup team. That is simply a fact.
Maguire is quoted as saying he didn’t come to an agreement with West Ham on the money and Kevin Nolan has even said it was very close to happening. For Maguire to even discuss wages with West Ham a fee must have been agreed between the clubs.
Part of me hopes we get relegated to finally cleanse the club of these leeches
I obviously need to get out more but this post gave me the best laugh I’ve had in ages.
How can I put this so he will understand? Bugger off!
Not necessarily, players speak with clubs and agree deals in principles before clubs reach agreements frequently.
Maguire is quoted as saying the clubs never got as far as agreeing a deal,
The actual opportunity to go to West Ham wasn’t really agreed between both clubs and myself
The actual opportunity wasn’t there because we didn’t get far enough down the line with it
Nolan was quoted as saying 'the money didn't get sorted out'
Maguire and Utd couldn't agree the payoff package back in summer, and they probably won't in winter transfer window either given how Utd management works.
This man will haunt me to my deathbed.
His emotionless smile, his turning circle of a cruise liner, his top speed of a beached sperm whale.
Ugh.
His emotionless smile, his turning circle of a cruise liner, his top speed of a beached sperm whale.
Ugh.
Slab head is the perfect nickname for him. This guy is as deluded and dense as they come.
Had a good game against the mighty Brentford and feels its his time to chirp.
"When i've played my win rate is ridiculously high" ... Could you imagine the likes of Cantona, Keane, Scholes, Rooney speak like this. Fecking imbecile.
"When i've played my win rate is ridiculously high" ... Could you imagine the likes of Cantona, Keane, Scholes, Rooney speak like this. Fecking imbecile.
He's basically a defensive flat track bully. Sticks his chest out when we win against any minnow.
I don’t see what the problem is. He’s (fundamentally) a very good player (yes he’s dropped a few clangers!) and wants to be playing.
To my eyes, he does okay most of the time and I rate him above Vic (which doesn’t say much) but, clearly the manager doesn’t like how he plays.
I don’t think it’s a crazy question for him and the club to ask: can Maguire adapt to the system and get back to his peak form (for however brief a time that lasted, he was a very good CB at his best)?
He backed himself to do it but he’s now basically saying there’s a deadline (of sorts) whereby he’s thinking “if I can’t get back in the team by Xmas, it’s time to move on”, and I have no problem whatsoever with that.
People will have a problem with Maguire being called a “very good player” but you don’t get 60 England caps and seven goals if you’re not.
To my eyes, he does okay most of the time and I rate him above Vic (which doesn’t say much) but, clearly the manager doesn’t like how he plays.
I don’t think it’s a crazy question for him and the club to ask: can Maguire adapt to the system and get back to his peak form (for however brief a time that lasted, he was a very good CB at his best)?
He backed himself to do it but he’s now basically saying there’s a deadline (of sorts) whereby he’s thinking “if I can’t get back in the team by Xmas, it’s time to move on”, and I have no problem whatsoever with that.
People will have a problem with Maguire being called a “very good player” but you don’t get 60 England caps and seven goals if you’re not.
fixed that for you
Also - Sweeden, Ireland, Poland, Ukraine, Hungary, Albania, San Marino. Not many world beaters; I mean, the most challenging opponent England had with Maguire on the scoresheet is arguably Scotland
Lastly, he's a CB, scoring isnt a key attribute here. I dont mind him trying - i dont think any UTD fan has an issue with that. It's the comments that get most of us. He still acts as a world class CB, he is at best a serviceable player that makes similar money to Van Dijk and more money than the likes of Ruben Dias and Walker. I mean count your f****g blessings son!
It’s funny reading posters who’ve slated Sancho for responding to direct criticism come to the defence of a former captain who, in the time of his captaincy & now, chooses to talk about how good he is in spite of the car crash the club is currently in the midst of.
This was the man in charge of leading the dressing room for the best part of the last half decade & everytime he opens his mouth it’s to talk about how good he is/has been.
I lost count of how many times Bruno & Shaw had to come out after one of his disasterclasses because he rarely spoke after poor performances.
He’s the epitome of what people claim is wrong with this squad. Whether you think he’s a good or bad defender is moot at this point, the fact the club is/has been underachieving whilst he’s been here & he’s talking about his win percentage says everything we need to know about him.
This was the man in charge of leading the dressing room for the best part of the last half decade & everytime he opens his mouth it’s to talk about how good he is/has been.
I lost count of how many times Bruno & Shaw had to come out after one of his disasterclasses because he rarely spoke after poor performances.
He’s the epitome of what people claim is wrong with this squad. Whether you think he’s a good or bad defender is moot at this point, the fact the club is/has been underachieving whilst he’s been here & he’s talking about his win percentage says everything we need to know about him.
He knew he was 5th choice centre back, he had the chance to leave but he decided to stay to pick up his £200k a week, and is now complaining about lack of game time. It's just bizarre.
Maguire: “My win rate under current manager is ridiculously high” | “I don’t like playing once a month, will have a chat with club”
You do that, big fella. Bless.
You do that, big fella. Bless.
All that quote says to me is that he didn’t get his payoff and wasn’t leaving. Clubs agreed a fee between themselves and the dispute over who was paying Maguire 6/7m was the sticking point. He won’t come out and admit that was the reason it fell through.
David Moyes confirmed the bid was accepted back in August and personal terms were being discussed.
"I wouldn't talk about players at other clubs, but what I can say is yes, we've had a bid accepted from Manchester United," Moyes told his press conference on Friday. "But while he's not my player, I don't think it's my place to discuss him really."
Maguire had the chance to leave and the pay drop from United to West Ham was the sticking point. Maguire even said in September that “we didn’t come to an agreement” with United. So yes on your point it wasn’t that advanced is true, the hold up was Maguire not agreeing an exit fee. If he wanted to leave for West Ham he had the opportunity to do so. The clubs agreed a fee, it’s over to the player and his agent from that point onwards to agree terms.
I really am disliking everyone of our English players minus AWB and Shaw. So many spoiled whiny players.
No one forced him to stay though.
Yes collecting his wages is his right. Others also have the right to voice their displeasure
Yes, I always get the impression with Harry that his public shows of bravado are a front that hides an inner insecurity.
I wish he actually did play with the same arrogance because any time he did play (well, up to the point he was dropped last season) he looked the exact opposite, like a nervous wreck.
Wait, did a club have an offer accepted for him then? If so, who was that?
Another great success for Harold.
Yep, West Ham, the sticking point was how much he wanted in a pay off before going
Maguire says differently:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.es...w-bid-man-united-maguire-sources?platform=amp
Well as others have found further up in this thread, Moyes came out over the summer and said an offer had been accepted, and it was wildly reported the issue was his pay off. You can Google that too if you want.
That's what Google is for, right? To check these things? So it looks like a case of he said, he said, but I suppose people will pick a side. I don't really see why Maguire would lie about it but then I don't see why moyes would either.
Apologies, that seemed more snidy than it was meant to be, I'm just saying that's what happened and that's what all the parties involved and the rumours over the summer were saying, after that I dunno. But as others have said I think it's silly he's complaining about playing time when he knew he was so far down the pecking order now and had an opportunity to move in the summer and be a first teamer there.
No worries at all, I get ya. I can definitely see the frustration and I don't think he should be anywhere near a united team with title aspirations. I just think that there's a certain section of our fanbase (not aimed at you) that will take any opportunity to dump on him, whatever he says.
Did poor Harry ever have a bad Game? With all these great performances he should be made captain again.
It's fairly easy to see why Maguire would lie about it, as it makes him look quite money-hungry and makes his entire 'I want to play and will talk to the club' public comments subject to ridicule. Whereas I don't see any reason Moyes would lie, and pretty much all the leaks indicated that the clubs had agreed and it was down to Maguire wanting a larger pay-off then the club would give him.
While we probably won't ever know for 100% certainty, it's clear that Maguire's demands scuppering the deal was by far the most likely issue.
It makes for a better story than the more prosaic 'never agreed terms' so hardly surprising they'd run with that. As you say, though, I guess we'll never know. All just conjecture at this point.
Not sure it does. 'Utd demanding 45m' (or similar figure) probably makes a better story considering how much the press enjoy anything that makes Utd look incompetent. Putting the failure on Utd probably generates more clicks than putting it on Maguire.
The leaks had no problem saying that it was Utd pricing McTominay out of the move when it came to the other deal between the same two clubs.
Maguire is a starting England centre back. There's FAR more noise around someone like him than McTominay. And you know how the press love to build up but also (and maybe especially) take down an English player. 'Greedy Harry' is a better story than united wanting another 10 million imo.
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