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LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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He'd have been fired 4 times if this happened at Barcelona, Real or Bayern. We consider ourselves in that echelon, but all we've allowed ourselves to become is a rich Milan.
um... what????? most supporters have turned their back on you (LVG) for good.
Sunderland have sacked managers with similar form.
Milan would've sacked him over a year ago. Probably after the MK Dons disaster.
If we were an Italian club(or owned club), we'd be on our 10th manager since SAF, had the results been exactly as they are.
He's not going anywhere as long as City are still paying his wages.
It's beyond untenable.
And he would not have yet have gotten the sack at Chelsea, while they only fired Mou when they started to get close to the relegation spots.
Our problem was we started the season alright. Still up there at the top starting of November I think. If we had started slow and lost a few more games, we would have joined Chelsea in the relegation zone and maybe Mou could have taken over straight away in November.
Woodward must realise a change needs to happen and unfortunately we are past the point of no return with van Gaal, the club is at rock bottom. If anyone still thinks van Gaal is the man for the job then they can't really be much of a United fan, this season has been a complete embarrassment and we have turned into a laughing stock.
If we want any slim chance of playing in Europe next season we really do need to do what it takes to get Mourinho in now. Despite all the clubs riches and commercial success we have never looked weaker than we do right now, there is literally nothing to be positive about. I miss Fergie so very much!
If we want any slim chance of playing in Europe next season we really do need to do what it takes to get Mourinho in now. Despite all the clubs riches and commercial success we have never looked weaker than we do right now, there is literally nothing to be positive about. I miss Fergie so very much!
I definitely would lose all my respect for the board if they would hire Mourinho. The guy does well for 3 years and then leaves behind a squad in much worse state then he started with. Hiring Mou basically means embracing a short term mindset, that will get us in exactly the same situation as now in a few years.
The thing people dont understand is he isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He has done his rounds in football. He is 53. He is done with Italy, Spain, Portugal. I can't see him going to Germany. PSG looks like an option but it is not a big enough challenge for him. The only big thing left in his career is national management and he has plenty of time to do that. Hell he can do it while managing another club as well to kill two birds with one stone. I haven't seen him this desperate to manage a football club ever. Even if he went to Madrid, I didn't see this desperation/hunger to manage a club.
He might be hungry, but he often gets into a row with either the management or the players and that then results in the end of his tenure at a club.
To be fair, I don 't think he could do much worse at that than Moyes and LvG have been doing.
Also you're talking like we have so many other options? Who else thats PROVEN is left? We took our chances with two managers and look where that got us.
The big ones are obviously not available - Ancelotti, Simeone, Klopp and Pep.
2nd tier ones - Conte and Allegri - not sure about them and their willingness to manage a side like United. Chelsea are fighting for the both of them and we dont even seem to be in the conversation.
3rd tier ones - Poch, Sampioli? There is no way we are getting Poch after the season he has had. We would need to pay over the odds for him and there is no guarantee he will be a success. Sampioli maybe, again you're going with a manager who is unproven in premier league.
We can't give the reigns over to a young manager and hope he does some magic. We gave it to one unproven but premier league experienced manager and he didn't do shit. We then had a proven but PL inexperienced manager and look where we are. WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW IS STABILITY. To be honest even if Mou leaves in 5 years, if he has stabilized us and won like 2-3 trophies while challenging for honors till the end of the season the rest of his time, I would take that situation in a heartbeat.
We aren't going anywhere right now. There is absolutely no stability and giving the club to another young manager will only increase the instability and not to mention the pressure on that new manager. After Mou stabilizes us then ask Poch or even Giggs if he has proven himself to take over. I have no problem with that. But right now there is no option left but to have Mou take over.
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With the squad he'd be taking on, in 3 years we'll have a wonderful array of players in their early to mid 20's. I can't see the issue. As no way is he going to sell everyone.
Also need to add the core of his 2007 Chelsea team went on to win the Champions League & the Premier League. So doesn't really support your claim.
Did he fight his way out of Inter or Porto? Madrid is a circus you can't blame Mou for that. Didn't he get them to 3 straight UCL semifinals and yet he was sacked? Chelsea the first time was a problem yes. The second time wasn't a problem with management.
Well, he could. At least we now have players as Martial and Shaw, and to a lesser degree Depay and Lingard and CBJ, that seem to have a bright future ahead of them. They would definitely not have had this many minutes under other managers. Mou would have bought a few 28 year olds in the peak of their career, such that we get into the same slump in 3 years when they start dropping off.
I hope you're joking. Chelsea have made a habit of sacking managers sitting in or around the top 4.
Not sure if serious. But I'll bite anyway. Didn't they sack Ancelotti the season after he won the double? Didn't they sack Di Matteo like two or maybe three months into a season just after he won the fecking Champions League after beating the then best team in Europe?
But we wouldn't be in the Europa league losing to FC Milkyway.
Because he said it himself he was only going to those teams only for the short term. And those teams were okay with that. Inter was the only team where he had a really aging squad. Madrid and Chelsea he had a very nice mix. He needed quick results and he got them didn't he? Where ever he went? We have some great young players and not too many old, per say, players.
Your logic is as if Mourinho takes charge of teams that were doing good before him. Mourinho takes over teams that aren't doing so well and when he leaves, they stop doing so well. What could this possibly mean?
When you go to the Player Performances forum and see that the majority of the players are being lambasted for poor performances, the only conclusion is that the manager has fecked up and should be sacked.
I'd personally not give anyone the United POTY award this season just to send a message. What a shambles of a season. 5 wins in 4 months? Ridiculous. Sack Van Gaal now.
I'd personally not give anyone the United POTY award this season just to send a message. What a shambles of a season. 5 wins in 4 months? Ridiculous. Sack Van Gaal now.
Someone should manip LvG's head onto Viola Davis on a poster of How To Get Away With Murder.
This is a special kind of hell.
We won't hire a new manager until end of season.
We won't fire LVG until end of season.
We have to suffer humiliation until end of season.
Basically, ZERO progress until end of season.
What a pathetic situation to be in.
We won't hire a new manager until end of season.
We won't fire LVG until end of season.
We have to suffer humiliation until end of season.
Basically, ZERO progress until end of season.
What a pathetic situation to be in.
Are we at a point that is even worse than where we found ourselves on boxing day? Id say yes, since we clearly havent learned anything.
There is absolutely nothing to suggest he'll be removed in summer. For all we know, Woodward will keep him on.
The thread claiming LVG was a success already no matter what is now a legendary jinx if you are superstitious. ...Or just the worst misjudgement in the history of the caf.
My hope is that they call him in for a meeting this morning, fire him. And make the announcement later today.
Sadly Van Gaal can probably save his job with a win over Shrewsbury and overturning this deficit next Thursday.
Anyone who knows anything about the game could have told you that there was no coming back for Van Gaal after that Stoke game but the deluded fools running this club thought it made sense to keep up appearances instead of making the obvious decisions for the best of the club. Now we are here, not only is Van Gaal broken but so are the players and it will take ages for the new man to rehabilitate the players mentally. The longer this farce goes on the more damaging it will be to the club and now we are a laughing stock which will affect our summer transfer business.
Once again I wake with hope in my heart that today is the day.
Wake up 
, check news feed , come on here and write: "He's still fecking here"
Every morning I have my hopes dashed. What more (or less) can that man do?
, check news feed , come on here and write: "He's still fecking here" Every morning I have my hopes dashed. What more (or less) can that man do?
And therefore strangely tenable.
Sorry, but if you have the audacity to refuse Mourinho at this point then you are an idiot.
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