Sad reading. Don't think anyone can argue with that either- 4 loses in a row for the first time in 50 years
- went through December without winning a single game
- 2 shots on target in our last 2 games
- second lowest number of chances created in the league
- failed to score in the first half of our home games in 11(eleven!!) consecutive games and scored only 2 all season(one was an OG)
- lowest point tally in PL era
- lowest goals per game in PL era
- lower winrate than Moyes
- every single player is under performing, except maybe Smalling
- failed to qualify from one of the easiest groups possible in the CL
- went out of the League Cup at home against Championship opponent
- worst brand of football in the league by far
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LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Last 10 matches (overall)
GP W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Leicester City 10 5 4 1 14 6 +8 19
2 Tottenham 10 5 3 2 17 8 +9 18
3 Manchester City 10 5 3 2 18 10 +8 18
4 Arsenal 10 5 3 2 14 11 +3 18
5 Watford 10 5 1 4 15 12 +3 16
6 Bournemouth 10 4 4 2 13 11 +2 16
7 West Ham Utd 10 3 6 1 12 8 +4 15
8 Chelsea 10 3 5 2 15 11 +4 14
9 Stoke City 10 4 2 4 13 13 0 14
10 Liverpool 10 4 2 4 13 17 -4 14
11 Southampton 10 4 1 5 13 10 +3 13
12 Crystal Palace 10 3 3 4 10 14 -4 12
13 West Bromwich 10 2 5 3 10 13 -3 11
14 Newcastle Utd 10 3 2 5 12 16 -4 11
15 Swansea City 10 3 2 5 8 13 -5 11
16 Norwich City 10 3 2 5 12 19 -7 11
17 Manchester Utd 10 2 4 4 9 12 -3 10
18 Sunderland 10 3 1 6 14 20 -6 10
19 Everton 10 1 6 3 16 18 -2 9
20 Aston Villa 10 1 5 4 8 14 -6 8
What's it going to take?
GP W D L GF GA GD Pts
1 Leicester City 10 5 4 1 14 6 +8 19
2 Tottenham 10 5 3 2 17 8 +9 18
3 Manchester City 10 5 3 2 18 10 +8 18
4 Arsenal 10 5 3 2 14 11 +3 18
5 Watford 10 5 1 4 15 12 +3 16
6 Bournemouth 10 4 4 2 13 11 +2 16
7 West Ham Utd 10 3 6 1 12 8 +4 15
8 Chelsea 10 3 5 2 15 11 +4 14
9 Stoke City 10 4 2 4 13 13 0 14
10 Liverpool 10 4 2 4 13 17 -4 14
11 Southampton 10 4 1 5 13 10 +3 13
12 Crystal Palace 10 3 3 4 10 14 -4 12
13 West Bromwich 10 2 5 3 10 13 -3 11
14 Newcastle Utd 10 3 2 5 12 16 -4 11
15 Swansea City 10 3 2 5 8 13 -5 11
16 Norwich City 10 3 2 5 12 19 -7 11
17 Manchester Utd 10 2 4 4 9 12 -3 10
18 Sunderland 10 3 1 6 14 20 -6 10
19 Everton 10 1 6 3 16 18 -2 9
20 Aston Villa 10 1 5 4 8 14 -6 8
What's it going to take?
Black shirt protest at Old Trafford makes sense.
I thought he was celebrating Yaya's birthday. Does noone care about that poor guy?!
I hate that I hate him now. Keeping the faith for too long has made the snap even worse.
I hate that I hate him now. Keeping the faith for too long has made the snap even worse.
Relegation?
I know that we are not supposed to post GIFs/etc in the football forums.. However, this MUST be appropriate!
The only way anything we're doing right now makes sense is if we have Pep lined up for the summer. Thinking over all the scenarios:
If we wanted Mourinho why not just give him the job now instead of waiting? Our chances are much greater of getting top 4 with him.
If we want Giggs as the long term manager why not give it to him now instead of waiting? United is at such an incredible low point now it's a win win. If they still look like shit LVG will get all the blame and if he turns it around he's a saviour.
If Pep has agreed to take the United job then it makes sense to avoid having Giggs take over in case he's a big success as then there would be a swell of support for him as permanent manager.
The other argument is that Woodward simply doesn't have a fecking clue what he's doing and just makes it up as he goes along.
If we wanted Mourinho why not just give him the job now instead of waiting? Our chances are much greater of getting top 4 with him.
If we want Giggs as the long term manager why not give it to him now instead of waiting? United is at such an incredible low point now it's a win win. If they still look like shit LVG will get all the blame and if he turns it around he's a saviour.
If Pep has agreed to take the United job then it makes sense to avoid having Giggs take over in case he's a big success as then there would be a swell of support for him as permanent manager.
The other argument is that Woodward simply doesn't have a fecking clue what he's doing and just makes it up as he goes along.
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Exactly what top player in their right mind would join us, on the other hand if we had mourinho he would help lure players.
Woodward is a corporate clown with no idea on how to manage football affairs, its very well being a complete beast closing deals, but he has the tact and subtleness of a wall street trader dressed in a golden and pink striped sequin fecking suit.
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Yep! That'll be it.
The fact reports saying he had to talk to the players to see what they think, sums up the derp that is Mr Ed Wooward
How the feck he is still not sacked 
How the feck he is still not sacked
He's currently in Holland, I do wonder whether he will step down on his return tomorrow. He must surely be considering it.
Start contacting the club sponsors.
If enough people put pressure on the club sponsors then the likelyhood is the club would respond .
If enough people put pressure on the club sponsors then the likelyhood is the club would respond .
I am losing any hope of him walking or being sacked.
Let's not drag Mister Potato into this.
I am not sure who Woodward is listening to at this point but it sure isnt the popular opinion.
It really boggles the mind that LVG is still the manager of MUFC, it just doesn't make sense.
Honestly, how bad is this right now. I don't care how many games we win, he has to go. The problem is that the club probably know that one or two good results and the fans will shut up.
Pep is the reason he's still in a job. Seems clear to me that we want Pep and will fight with City and Chelsea for him this Summer.
As a result we can't make a permanent appointment now (Jose) so would need someone to come in on a temporary basis. Who's available that would come in under those conditions? Giggs, arguably, but you could understand the board's reluctance to put him in charge given his involvement in the current regime and his lack of experience.
For me, that's the reason he's going nowhere until the end of the season and we'd all just may as well accept it. As ridiculous as that seems
As a result we can't make a permanent appointment now (Jose) so would need someone to come in on a temporary basis. Who's available that would come in under those conditions? Giggs, arguably, but you could understand the board's reluctance to put him in charge given his involvement in the current regime and his lack of experience.
For me, that's the reason he's going nowhere until the end of the season and we'd all just may as well accept it. As ridiculous as that seems
Regardless of whether he's in charge or not, wins are what's important. We need a cup run, it would be tragic to go out on Friday.
Surely it would make sense to give a new manager the extra time before our next league game.
Surely it would make sense to give a new manager the extra time before our next league game.
If that's the case, then we're a shambles. We can't wait that long. City and Pep might agree to string us along so that we miss out on everyone, including Mourinho.we have to act now.
Looking at how our club has been run from a footballing perspective since Woodward took over, I truly believe he is out of his depth as a the Executive VC of MUFC.
Some of the shit he does is just downright farcical.
He is an accountant who became an investment banker and has zero footballing experience and his ineptitude on all matters football reflects this. I get that he was given charge of the commercial and media operations of MUFC but why is he making footballing decisions? Does the board not have a problem with this?
I feel the the only way for our club to truly progress is to get Woodward out of the footballing side of things and back on the commercial side.
Well we aren't going to make the top 4 with LVG so get rid of the cancer. Anyone else will do right now.
How do you know we're not acting now? Didn't we apparently meet with Pep in Paris last week?
I'm in favour of chucking Giggs in for now. Just trying to offer a possible explanation as to why we've, inexplicably, not pulled the trigger yet.
Complete farce of a club at the minute I'm sorry to say.
Unless he has signed on the dotted line, which I seriously doubt, then it's a dangerous game to play. Are we going to let the team sink just for a chance at Pep?
In all likelihood he has agreed to go to City already. What if he just plays us along and we end up with no Pep, no Mourinho and a team outside of the CL places still managed by fecking Van Gaal? It's not even worth the risk.
Perhaps all this is down to LvG's slight misunderstanding of the English language
When Ed said to him - "You have to be responsible to the Board" - LvG understood "You have to be responsible for the bored"
When Ed said to him - "You have to be responsible to the Board" - LvG understood "You have to be responsible for the bored"
Laughing stock from who exactly. No one is happy with the football being played at the moment.But i don't think we will have a miraculous turn around a third of the way into the season. Say goodbye to him at the end of the season and give Giggs the pre season and transfer budget to ready the team.
That would be the perfect scenario.
I really want to believe we're doing this
but not optimistic.Why don't we just put Warren Joyce in as interim? Sure this has been suggested before on the Caf - and I would support this. I know he's only been working with the Under 21s but at least he's been in charge of a team - something Giggs has not done.
I never thought of this.
It wouldn't surprise me if MCFC and Pep agree to keep stringing us along, so we miss out on another top manager and waste time.
Creating a positive dynamic now will help the team morale for next season but also give more credibilty to whoever manage us when we will discuss with potential transfer targets.
I've definitely had this thought but I'm not letting myself get too excited about it, given how sometimes logical explanations tend to be the wrong ones.
BBC Radio 5Live right now has a show on talking about just United as far as I can hear. Savage and United fan Chappers are heading it. Worth a listen.
Yeah we shouldn't wait on the off chance. If he has agreed to come we might want to keep it quiet for a bit, and it might be tricky finding a stop gap solution if Giggs doesn't want to do it.
If he can't decide now we should go with someone else, ie Maureen. We can't afford to mess about.
If he can't decide now we should go with someone else, ie Maureen. We can't afford to mess about.
If Giggs is saying he won't take the job as a temp, that could be interpreted as an act of loyalty to LVG. If he said he'd act as a temp, LVG would surely be out the door.
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