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Do you want LVG sacked?


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That's easy to say, but if the clubs are asking absolutely crazy amounts of money for average players then it may be the case that it isn't due to a lack of want.
Agreed, the market is hugely over inflated and when they see us coming the will up their price by 50% -- but if the alternative is failure... someone has to make a judgement call, and not backing a guy who's clearly struggling (with Woodward even rumoured to have stopped him from resigning twice, if we can believe that), is absolutely criminal. Don't care if they're asking 50m for Mane. Sometimes you have to overpay. Losing out on CL will be a nightmare, try recruiting in the summer -- will have to overpay even more.
 
A word of warning for all you who might think things will improve if United get rid of LvG. The fact is our squad is piss poor. We have too many mediocre and/or inexperienced players. Although LvG (and/or at least the man in charge of purchasing players in the first place) is partly to blame for this situation, LvG is not the one who has to perform on the pitch. It won't make a god damn difference who we have in charge if the players aren't good enough.
It's piss poor? I don't buy that for a second. Our squad is good, not great, but certainly not piss poor.

The squad is being grossly misused with LVG's 1970's Total Football garbage, and once we get a manager in that isn't stuck in the past with outdated tactics then we will without a doubt see improvements. I'm not saying that we don't need to sign anybody or that the squad is good as it is, but to suggest that it is a piss poor squad is quite frankly laughable. Our manager is the one who is piss poor.
 
I think the problem is more or less Woodward at this point, I cannot really blame LVG for not walking and forfeiting his bonus. He should have been gone after Norwich and even he knows that.

I think we would back LVG in the transfer market but with the prices quoted for Felipe Anderson and Mane, we might as well wait for someone like Griezmann in the summer....it makes zero sense to pay €50M for Mane or Anderson, when it is not clear that they will massively improve the team.

Woodward is deluded by the fact we were able to sign Falcao and ADM when we didnt have champs league football...this may be the 2nd time in 3 years we arent going to achieve top 4 and this is after a season of playing the most dull, depressing football in decades...which player will want to play for us then?

Woodward maybe bad but VG is just has bad, both have done such a bad job, our transfer activity is infested with good signings that never replaced what we lost. Putting blind at CB sums it up for me
 
Something may be in the air but if true we really better have someone good lining up for this job.

We can't just let another disappointment waste another club's years in this football limbo.

How would you define good? Because whomever comes in (bar Jose) will have to have time before they start bringing both good football and good results to the pitch. Right now, I'd be happy with one of the two.

A word of warning for all you who might think things will improve if United get rid of LvG. The fact is our squad is piss poor. We have too many mediocre and/or inexperienced players. Although LvG (and/or at least the man in charge of purchasing players in the first place) is partly to blame for this situation, LvG is not the one who has to perform on the pitch. It won't make a god damn difference who we have in charge if the players aren't good enough.

Our squad is underachieving, it's not piss poor at all.
 
:lol: feck. You may as well not go to Old Trafford before 45 minutes.

Or after for that matter.
Maybe that is exactly what the fans should do. Stay outside until the 2nd half as they know nothing will happen in the first half. Would be interesting if that happened.
 
Maybe that is exactly what the fans should do. Stay outside until the 2nd half as they know nothing will happen in the first half. Would be interesting if that happened.


I dont think Woodward would care until he starts getting verbally assaulted in the stands like SAF was getting at the end of Moyes's tenure. We all know who is keeping LVG in the position.
 
It's piss poor? I don't buy that for a second. Our squad is good, not great, but certainly not piss poor.

The squad is being grossly misused with LVG's 1970's Total Football garbage, and once we get a manager in that isn't stuck in the past with outdated tactics then we will without a doubt see improvements. I'm not saying that we don't need to sign anybody or that the squad is good as it is, but to suggest that it is a piss poor squad is quite frankly laughable.

Blaming the players seems to be the way people are handling the dawning reality that LvG isn't the genius he's been made out to be.

Of course the players aren't performing that's why LvG is in trouble. I'd love to know how people are rating the players independent of the managers influence.

As with Moyes we'll only know how the players fare once a new manager comes in. I remember people blaming RvPs poor form on Moyes for instance.
 
How would you define good? Because whomever comes in (bar Jose) will have to have time before they start bringing both good football and good results to the pitch. Right now, I'd be happy with one of the two.
Probably someone better than just a typical caretaker. Someone with huge amounts of energy and connections to bring absolute best to the club but I also doubt we'll produce something substantial this season anyway so indeed... not a big choice for time being plus not much time to create better inside organisation.

Truly a bitch of a situation.
 
A word of warning for all you who might think things will improve if United get rid of LvG. The fact is our squad is piss poor. We have too many mediocre and/or inexperienced players. Although LvG (and/or at least the man in charge of purchasing players in the first place) is partly to blame for this situation, LvG is not the one who has to perform on the pitch. It won't make a god damn difference who we have in charge if the players aren't good enough.

Whose fault we didn't sign a CB or striker?

Who thought they a genius by putting Blind as CB. Relying on Rooney to get 30 goals. The squad is van Gaals doing.
 
How would you define good? Because whomever comes in (bar Jose) will have to have time before they start bringing both good football and good results to the pitch. Right now, I'd be happy with one of the two.



Our squad is underachieving, it's not piss poor at all.

To be quite frank, based on performances this season and last I have come to the conclusion that players like Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Herrera, Fellaini, Mata, Jones, etc. are not good enough. On top of this, we also have a bought a number of expensive players who are inexperienced and still need maturing. Not to say that we also have some bad injuries as well, but the core of the squad is piss poor if you ask me.
 
Whose fault we didn't sign a CB or striker?

Who thought they a genius by putting Blind as CB. Relying on Rooney to get 30 goals. The squad is van Gaals doing.

Blind at CB has been one of the very very few success stories this season.
 
It's piss poor? I don't buy that for a second. Our squad is good, not great, but certainly not piss poor.

The squad is being grossly misused with LVG's 1970's Total Football garbage, and once we get a manager in that isn't stuck in the past with outdated tactics then we will without a doubt see improvements. I'm not saying that we don't need to sign anybody or that the squad is good as it is, but to suggest that it is a piss poor squad is quite frankly laughable. Our manager is the one who is piss poor.
We obviously need some players for the first team, but especially for the depth of the squad. The squad is not piss poor but far, far too small. That is the managers fault.
 
A word of warning for all you who might think things will improve if United get rid of LvG. The fact is our squad is piss poor. We have too many mediocre and/or inexperienced players. Although LvG (and/or at least the man in charge of purchasing players in the first place) is partly to blame for this situation, LvG is not the one who has to perform on the pitch. It won't make a god damn difference who we have in charge if the players aren't good enough.

Come on, you cant say that when Leicester are leading the table 3 points ahead of Manchester City, it's not like Vardy and Mahrez are reincarnations of Cruyff and Van Basten

15 games left and we're 5 points behind Tottenham, it's already a hard spot to be at this time and it's not going to be better with LVG coaching the rest of the season. We gave him a fair chance, time to work with the team and he finally couldn't deliver, it's true that many things didn't pan out fairly for him (injuries and other stuff) but there's no point in keeping him. The players would have a new impulse just by changing the manager and that can have a greater impact in the final results than LVG trying 4 different formations in the rest of the season.
 
Don't have the time to go flicking through all the posts from today. Has there been much speculation today saying he will be sacked?
 
Mate told me that he's gone back to Netherlands for his daughter's birthday or something? Any truth in this?
 
We need players that'll drop straight into the first team, without letting anyone go, so that'll bulk up the squad nicely.
I would say a CB, midfielder to replace Carrick, RW, maybe a No.10 and a striker. If Memphis doesn't buck up we might have to start looking for a LW after next season as well. Then a backup RB, a specialist not a winger dropping in there. Five to six players. It seems neverending.
 
Yup. You're a little behind, so I'll do you the justice with the full story. Agreed in advance apparently, and there is no training today either.
Blind and Memphis both went back to Holland as well. Hope this nice little break turns them into vintage United by Friday.
 
Blind and Memphis both went back to Holland as well. Hope this nice little break turns them into vintage United by Friday.

Can he send the money we paid for him back instead of himself tomorrow?
 
I'd genuinely feel embarrassed if having watched United under Sir Alex Ferguson for so long, still couldn't appreciate/understand the influence of a great manager on the way a team performs on the pitch. It's a bit sad really.
 
Maybe it is a chicken race between Woody and LvG. LvG trying to get the sack while his ego is being hurt more for every game. Woody trying to make him resign by refusing to sack him. That is how silly this club look at the moment.
 
To be quite frank, based on performances this season and last I have come to the conclusion that players like Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Herrera, Fellaini, Mata, Jones, etc. are not good enough. On top of this, we also have a bought a number of expensive players who are inexperienced and still need maturing. Not to say that we also have some bad injuries as well, but the core of the squad is piss poor if you ask me.

Schneiderlin - has been excellent for numerous years now, in almost every professional league in England.

Darmian - Darmian started the season very well, he was voted August player of the month. Plus I find it highly unlikely that you saw all that much of him whilst he was at Torino.

Shweinsteiger & Herrera - were both idolised by the fans when they started and have both shown flashes of brilliance. Ander put in some great performances last season and scored 8 goals from midfield and Bastian has consistently performed at the highest level of the game for a decade.

Mata - I have a strong dislike for Mata as a player, always have. But even I can't deny that during his Chelsea days, when he was used correctly, he was a magician around the oppositions box.

Whats more likely, 5 perfectly good players have suddenly turned shit or they are all victims of Van Gaal's obviously under performing philosophy.

I still say that with a better manager and good winger, we'd be sitting comfortably in the top four.
 
Maybe it is a chicken race between Woody and LvG. LvG trying to get the sack while his ego is being hurt more for every game. Woody trying to make him resign by refusing to sack him. That is how silly this club look at the moment.
To me, if he wants to show he is a big player he needs to show a ruthless streak and at the moment he is behaving like a pussy.
 
Maybe that is exactly what the fans should do. Stay outside until the 2nd half as they know nothing will happen in the first half. Would be interesting if that happened.
Not like you'd be losing much value, though good old Louis prefers the disciplined 0-0 draw.
 
Schneiderlin - has been excellent for numerous years now, in almost every professional league in England.

Darmian - Darmian started the season very well, he was voted August player of the month. Plus I find it highly unlikely that you saw all that much of him whilst he was at Torino.

Shweinsteiger & Herrera - were both idolised by the fans when they started and have both shown flashes of brilliance. Ander put in some great performances last season and scored 8 goals from midfield and Bastian has consistently performed at the highest level of the game for a decade.

Mata - I have a strong dislike for Mata as a player, always have. But even I can't deny that during his Chelsea days, when he was used correctly, he was a magician around the oppositions box.

Whats more likely, 5 perfectly good players have suddenly turned shit or they are all victims of Van Gaal's obviously under performing philosophy.

I still say that with a better manager and good winger, we'd be sitting comfortably in the top four.



Let me make myself clear. What I mean is based on performances whilst playing for Manchester United. I can understand the argument of being victims of LvG's management. But the fact that a player can't run, or pass, or shoot, etc. has nothing to do with the manager.
 
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