could have been 3-3 maybe - chelsea are shit.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Only won 2 of our last 10 in the league, and one of those wins relied on a 90th minute own goal.
Something *is* wrong, and regardless of what Michael Carrick says, I think all those rumours about the players not liking Van Gaal are probably true.
Something *is* wrong, and regardless of what Michael Carrick says, I think all those rumours about the players not liking Van Gaal are probably true.
You don't judge a season by one performance, credit the Caf with some insight. That game was symptomatic of the last few performances. It was still dour and insipid
He beat him 3 times, only one of those in the 2nd half.
Chelsea are terrible. I'd put them near the bottom of teams to visit OT this season
have read that Fergie will 'guide' Giggs rest of season for him to be appointed full time end of season. That should please a lot here.
What a magician this guy is. Makes us play uninspiring football but gets the points, then gets us playing relegation form, only to get us back to playing this kind of awful football and getting some points in the process. A progress eh..
It was the asst ref who should have picked up the blatant hand ball
Felt once again the subs didn't reflect the game we were seeing.
Chelsea wanted a draw plan and simple, we could take a risk and move to a 442 or even keep a 451 and push Rooney in to the hole and Herrera deeper, releasing Martial to lead the line and stretch the game. We had loads of nice approach place but once again because there's no pace centrally the option is always to work it wide where bar the odd decent ball in the majority of crosses are poor, summed up by Young's attempted across near the end of the game where any decent player with a brain would know that you need to stand that cross up. It's just a silly part of our game, we don't have one decent/reliable crosser but we set up like we've got becks and gnev on each flank.
Then other issue is BFS. I like the guy and I think when he's fit that he can give us a good hour when used right but he was clearly struggling mid second half. He needed to come of and that's where LVG needed to be brave and go for it. Honestly despite his reputation at United he seems to have placed faith in big names i.e. Rooney, BFS as opposed to reacting to the situation in front of him.
That said the attitude of the players suggest they are still playing for him. Although it's a tough one. Certainly there's positives to the performance that hopefully carry on but they have to be put in to context of playing a Chelsea team in a worse position that us confidence wise who came for a draw. Not to mention the players wanting a win due to professionalism. Either way there were positives, things that can be built on but our problem isn't really getting to the opposition box. It's what we do when we're there and that's still a problem that is on-going.
Chelsea wanted a draw plan and simple, we could take a risk and move to a 442 or even keep a 451 and push Rooney in to the hole and Herrera deeper, releasing Martial to lead the line and stretch the game. We had loads of nice approach place but once again because there's no pace centrally the option is always to work it wide where bar the odd decent ball in the majority of crosses are poor, summed up by Young's attempted across near the end of the game where any decent player with a brain would know that you need to stand that cross up. It's just a silly part of our game, we don't have one decent/reliable crosser but we set up like we've got becks and gnev on each flank.
Then other issue is BFS. I like the guy and I think when he's fit that he can give us a good hour when used right but he was clearly struggling mid second half. He needed to come of and that's where LVG needed to be brave and go for it. Honestly despite his reputation at United he seems to have placed faith in big names i.e. Rooney, BFS as opposed to reacting to the situation in front of him.
That said the attitude of the players suggest they are still playing for him. Although it's a tough one. Certainly there's positives to the performance that hopefully carry on but they have to be put in to context of playing a Chelsea team in a worse position that us confidence wise who came for a draw. Not to mention the players wanting a win due to professionalism. Either way there were positives, things that can be built on but our problem isn't really getting to the opposition box. It's what we do when we're there and that's still a problem that is on-going.
Form over the last 6 games:
What now? Surely he should go in next day or two?
They must make a change, they must.
Sacked yet?
This puts everything in limbo, as expected
Don't really see why it should wait until tomorrow morning. What benefit is that to anyone, including Van Gaal?
If that's it, then just announce it within the hour.
If that's it, then just announce it within the hour.
we didn't lose today.
progress.
progress.
If he isn't sacked by end of today then he isn't going anywhere for another week.
Think the board would feel he's earned another game and if it's true that he had lost faith, he will probably have been encouraged by that performance. I think there's another game in him.
I don't know, I've wanted him out for a long time now but it would seem slightly brutal to sack him on the back of such a good performance.
Still, bottom line: 8 games without a win, losing sight of the top-4. I'm still in favour of sacking him now as I don't see any future (longer than a few weeks) for him here. What's the point in waiting any longer?
I don't know, I've wanted him out for a long time now but it would seem slightly brutal to sack him on the back of such a good performance.
Still, bottom line: 8 games without a win, losing sight of the top-4. I'm still in favour of sacking him now as I don't see any future (longer than a few weeks) for him here. What's the point in waiting any longer?
Sounded like a better performance, but too little, too late. Nobody can justify this run of results.
If it's going to happen it'll be tomorrow I think.
He has to go. We cannot give him money to spend in JanuAry surely?
I think we've gone past the point where he'll get sacked now. We're stuck with him.
Form over the last 6 games:
We know. Jesus.
4 wins in 17
If they didn't see the need to sack him after Stoke then I can't see them doing it after a pretty good performance
he really should be gone. no excuses.
It was a good game, but we just cant win with LvG. Sometimes it just dont work out.
We played them off the park. Completely bossed the game, hit the woodwork twice and created enough chances to score at least four goals. It was a very good performance and if people weren't so affected by everything going on, they would recognise that.
Half the reason we looked decent today was a poor chelsea side hardly turned up, particuarly first half, we can't score under LvG, ever, this wont change, we look decripit,
get out.
get out.
Just saw that Moyes' highest winless streak was 3...we're now on 8.
Surely that isn't true? I seem to remember going weeks without a win under Moyes.
Surely that isn't true? I seem to remember going weeks without a win under Moyes.
This doesn't help his cause.
Performance was fine but the fact we still fail to win shows he's taken us as far as you can. If this is the players still up for him then God help us when they do down tools.
Performance was fine but the fact we still fail to win shows he's taken us as far as you can. If this is the players still up for him then God help us when they do down tools.
Oh yes he is. We will serve old shit on Saturday.
We started well as usual but the recurring theme of his reign has been the drop in tempo and him not being able to do anything about it. Has to go now surely.
Still not good enough. He needs to go!
Club is run by some cluless people tbh
Full of praise on BT from Rio and Paul and I just don't understand it. We were okay today, not great. No win in EIGHT games, 3 in 17? That's relegation form. Nothing I saw today convinces me that he's going to turn it around.
They planned to let us. The plan almost worked if they had taken their great chances.
I think it's strange to call that a 'good performance' when it had so much wrong with it. The first 15 minutes or so was fantastic and with a lot of great movement off the ball. That all stopped around mid-way through the first half and never returned.
It was better than Stoke for sure but wasn't a good performance at all. If you don't score a single fecking goal at home (with Chelsea letting us have all the possession) you can't say you played well - that's insane.
This. His biggest mistakes was made during the summer and it won't matter who replaces him now unless we get some quality players to go along with the new manager.
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