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2024-25 Performances


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5.3 Season Average Rating
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He was garbage tonight but he should start vs Wolves and build on his fitness.

The starting back 3 from tonight don’t need the minutes vs Wolves.
 
I am not defending lindelof here. All I am saying is that he's still a football player who can play week in week out football at a reasonable level. I can't say the same about shaw

Lindelof himself has been injured for a while as well. Neither are good. We just are left with two poor choices.
 
I think that we would have been better off reverting to a 4 men defense rather then having him play. Casemiro could have been instructed to stay deep in an anchor role with mainoo and Bruno in CM
 
Historically always seems to be on the scene of the most farcical slapstick goals and results
 
Luke was dogshite today, quite frankly. Huge downgrade in quality of defence after a half time :(
 
He was really bad tonight but we know what a good player he is, one of the best at the club when on form, so it's hopefully just rustiness after missing so much time. It's not ideal that he had to come on today in a game that mattered, games like the one on Sunday would be preferable to use to get him back up to speed. If he can stay fit he can still be useful for us in the remainder of the season.
 
Dreadful tonight, at significant fault for 2 of the Lyon goals, didn't look comfortable.

Not really his fault though, he isn't anywhere near match fit, is capable of much better.
 
If ever a guy needed yoga.

Just watching him warm up he looks so stiff.
 
Terrible communication with Dorgu for that equaliser bus I suppose the whole defence made errors with that goal. Penalty was brainless.
 
Miles off the pace but to be expected. Both him and Mount are nowhere near level they should be, having to rely on them is far from ideal.
Agreed, but they need game time. Not ideal playing them in the circumstances,, but they both and Mainoo came through without injury and could yet both prove crucial at the end of the season.
 
I don’t think the plan was him to get 75 mins but hopefully it stands to him in the next few weeks
 
Crazy that Amorim threw him into that game, the intensity was too much for him. His minutes will need to be managed carefully because he is made of glass and also looks out of shape (again).
 
Not ideal, but Lindelof as he is at least fit. I personally would have binned the back three off altogether.
But it has been confirmed that lindeloff wasn’t available, as he had to leave. This was confirmed after the match by the manager, and has been all over the internet and this very site since the game ended. I guess you missed that, though.
 
But it has been confirmed that lindeloff wasn’t available, as he had to leave. This was confirmed after the match by the manager, and has been all over the internet and this very site since the game ended. I guess you missed that, though.
I did miss that yes, my apologies.
 
Calm down. We all know that Shaw is a top class LCB/LB/LWB. He just came back from long term injury. His quality is not in question at all. He usually will takes time to play into form.

Hope this round he can stay fit for much longer.
 
He’s had feck all to do all year apart from to work on his fitness, and he lumbers onto the pitch like he’s been sat getting to prestige 10 on COD during that time whilst having Dominos Altrincham on speed dial.

He’s not just not match fit, he’s just not fit at all. Reminded me of when Peter Kay was in that advert smacking the ball over the garage roof and saying “have it”.
 
He looks overweight, I know of people who work in excess of 50 hours a week who are in great shape still making time to go the gym on average of three sessions. Now compare that to an Athlete who is paid for a living, to resemble such a physique it's demonstrable of poor professionalism. Now I'm not shaming him but remember the contrast is he's an athlete. Injury's should undoubtedly deem a player lacking in match fitness but being overweight is another issue entirely.

I said a few weeks ago that I can't see Shaw being a success at United in the wingback role. If he couldn't maintain being injury free as a left back how in the world does he maintain playing wingback needing to cover the lengths of both the defensive / offensive sides more persistently.

It absolutely makes more sense to revert Luke to a role where he's either side of the central defender. He's physically shot so has no long term viability in the wider areas. With Lindelof's contract up, the club could offload him and use Shaw as a backup for the defence in place of an injury / suspension.
 
Calm down. We all know that Shaw is a top class LCB/LB/LWB. He just came back from long term injury. His quality is not in question at all. He usually will takes time to play into form.

Hope this round he can stay fit for much longer.
Shaw was never top class and will never be. Your idea of "fitness" holding him back from being top class is a fantasy toy story. Perhaps when the club bought him from Southampton, the potential was there. He has shown flashes but nothing concrete to warrant such a grandiose claim.

Throughout his tenure at the club, his weight has fluctuated more than a balloon at a clown show. He needs to be jettisoned out of Manchester United with immediate effect. An emblem of the paragon of failure that recent Manchester United has become.

Constantly hyping up failures like Shaw is why Manchester United is currently in the state it is in. "He looked rusty defensively", "he needs more game time". He has been at the club for over a decade. What on earth are you talking about?

The standards of this club needs to be elevated significantly.
 
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He looks overweight, I know of people who work in excess of 50 hours a week who are in great shape still making time to go the gym on average of three sessions. Now compare that to an Athlete who is paid for a living, to resemble such a physique it's demonstrable of poor professionalism. Now I'm not shaming him but remember the contrast is he's an athlete. Injury's should undoubtedly deem a player lacking in match fitness but being overweight is another issue entirely.

I said a few weeks ago that I can't see Shaw being a success at United in the wingback role. If he couldn't maintain being injury free as a left back how in the world does he maintain playing wingback needing to cover the lengths of both the defensive / offensive sides more persistently.

It absolutely makes more sense to revert Luke to a role where he's either side of the central defender. He's physically shot so has no long term viability in the wider areas. With Lindelof's contract up, the club could offload him and use Shaw as a backup for the defence in place of an injury / suspension.
I don’t think Shaw is the right player for the CB role on this system either. Look at the way Yoro has moved forward recently - that’s what you want from the outside CBs. Even Maz does this to an extent.

As you say he’s shot. Shaw is on his last legs. He and Martinez are not suitable to play a high line. With both Martinez and Shaw you will get players who just want to sit next to the CCB. That’s exactly what we don’t want, they exacerbate the weakness of Maguire and to a lesser extent De Ligt (pace).

We are likely stuck with him due to his contract. In a team that’s happy to play a low block, he would be a reasonable option, but not where we want to go.
 
I don’t think Shaw is the right player for the CB role on this system either. Look at the way Yoro has moved forward recently - that’s what you want from the outside CBs. Even Maz does this to an extent.

As you say he’s shot. Shaw is on his last legs. He and Martinez are not suitable to play a high line. With both Martinez and Shaw you will get players who just want to sit next to the CCB. That’s exactly what we don’t want, they exacerbate the weakness of Maguire and to a lesser extent De Ligt (pace).

We are likely stuck with him due to his contract. In a team that’s happy to play a low block, he would be a reasonable option, but not where we want to go.
Got to say I disagree with you here. In his limited minutes since returning Shaw has already got forward quite a lot more than Mazraoui normally does. Made one great run against Newcastle, then was getting forward and putting a bunch of dangerous crosses in against Lyon (admittedly the latter was down to 10 men for most of that).

I'd say other than Yoro, Shaw is the only CB we've got who will drive forward quite a lot.
 
He's like Rooney/Carrick, where he needs to play a few games in a row to get going. Once he does, he's the best defender we have really.
 
Got to say I disagree with you here. In his limited minutes since returning Shaw has already got forward quite a lot more than Mazraoui normally does. Made one great run against Newcastle, then was getting forward and putting a bunch of dangerous crosses in against Lyon (admittedly the latter was down to 10 men for most of that).

I'd say other than Yoro, Shaw is the only CB we've got who will drive forward quite a lot.
I didn’t watch most of the second half against Newcastle. I hope that’s what we see of him. He’s got a few weeks to show us what he’s still capable of.
 
He's like Rooney/Carrick, where he needs to play a few games in a row to get going. Once he does, he's the best defender we have really.
He was absolutely dreadful after coming on yesterday. Pissed me off to no end, headless defending everytime they attacked.