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He is unarguably United’s most underrated player, thanks to the cnutish one
He played a pass between the lines to Bruno in the 1st half that was KDB esque
I think you made a fair points. Not everything is perfect. (Shaw also made 2 dangerous mistakes last game against Leeds when it was still 0-0). Mistakes also needs to be noted. Right now we can get away with the positive outnumbering the mistake, but there would be a point where we can't afford that, so we either ironing out the mistake or fixing it with recruitment when the chance arrive.I think he got a bit lucky on a couple occasions when Lewandowski did get the better of him... but then it's Robert fecking Lewandowski.
And, not a sight on Shaw, but we need Licha's passing from that left centre back spot (and, in turn, even when Malacia has a great game he still can't match Shaw's playmaking ability from left back).
Somehow I've already written about two negatives when overall it was a very good performance by Luke. Great when you consider that he only played a couple of games in his adult career as a center back in a back 4.
Recruitment? We won’t be able to recruit a better LCB than Shaw to sit on the bench as cover for Martinez so that’s out. And good luck recruiting a better LB, such a player does not exist.I think you made a fair points. Not everything is perfect. (Shaw also made 2 dangerous mistakes last game against Leeds when it was still 0-0). Mistakes also needs to be noted. Right now we can get away with the positive outnumbering the mistake, but there would be a point where we can't afford that, so we either ironing out the mistake or fixing it with recruitment when the chance arrive.
Good competent performance nevertheless.
Why not a natural CB who can cover both RCB and LCB, and actually rotate seamlessly week in, week out for either Varane and Lisandro if required.Recruitment? We won’t be able to recruit a better LCB than Shaw to sit on the bench as cover for Martinez so that’s out. And good luck recruiting a better LB, such a player does not exist.
Seeing how much Eric loves to work with the players he's worked beforehand we might go for de ligt if the budget allows us to, us naturally a RCB but I've seen bayern playing him on the left hand side at times like they did against psg.Why not a natural CB who can cover both RCB and LCB, and actually rotate seamlessly week in, week out for either Varane and Lisandro if required.
Varane used to be that guy for Pepe and Sergio Ramos. Under SAF, especially later year, he stockpiled younger CBs to prepare a succession plan for Rio and Vida with Pique, Johnny Evans, Smalling, Jones (Varane was inquired but he chose at that time to go to Real Madrid).
Right now look at Bayern natural CBs and CB step in selections. Or Man City seems to buy a new CB every other year, too.
Shaw is doing a very good job, but let's not kid ourselves he's better in CB role than someone like Smalling, Pique in their prime. Unless you know that the world has stopped produced good enough natural CBs of that level.
I think that boat sailed. He just moved to Bayern this summer.Seeing how much Eric loves to work with the players he's worked beforehand we might go for de ligt if the budget allows us to, us naturally a RCB but I've seen bayern playing him on the left hand side at times like they did against psg.
Probably but stranger things have happened before in the transfer market.I think that boat sailed. He just moved to Bayern this summer.
Just that with money, surely we can scout some competent CBs.
If such a player can be found and persuaded to come here I wouldn’t object. But let’s not kid ourselves - Prime Pique would laugh at the idea of being back up and that’s before you think about what a player of his quality would cost.Why not a natural CB who can cover both RCB and LCB, and actually rotate seamlessly week in, week out for either Varane and Lisandro if required.
Varane used to be that guy for Pepe and Sergio Ramos. Under SAF, especially later year, he stockpiled younger CBs to prepare a succession plan for Rio and Vida with Pique, Johnny Evans, Smalling, Jones (Varane was inquired but he chose at that time to go to Real Madrid).
Right now look at Bayern natural CBs and CB step in selections. Or Man City seems to buy a new CB every other year, too.
Shaw is doing a very good job, but let's not kid ourselves he's better in CB role than someone like Smalling, Pique in their prime. Unless you know that the world has stopped produced good enough natural CBs of that level.
Its insane how good he is at CB, but i feel like we need him at LB.
With Martinez as a CB, and him as LB, we are so much better.
Pique was rotation option in his first season back at Barcelona. Rafael Marquez, Puyol still started a lot. What happened back then is that we have Wes Brown, O'Shea as the first rotation option, with Johny Evans also in the mix of breaking through. It's bad timing.If such a player can be found and persuaded to come here I wouldn’t object. But let’s not kid ourselves - Prime Pique would laugh at the idea of being back up and that’s before you think about what a player of his quality would cost.
We have a lot of other priorities and, I feel, trying to sign someone who is better than Shaw as a backup LCB is inventing a problem that just isn’t there.
I pretty much agree with all that.Pique was rotation option in his first season back at Barcelona. Rafael Marquez, Puyol still started a lot. What happened back then is that we have Wes Brown, O'Shea as the first rotation option, with Johny Evans also in the mix of breaking through. It's bad timing.
When I said rotation I didn't mean bench warmer. Varane needs to be managed carefully. He would turn 30 very soon, and the player himself is the type you don't bet your house on him stay fit all season.
Shaw is our starter LB, and he's one of the best chances creators too. He would need some rest too here and there. A starter also being the main rotation for another position is not ideal. Having him as main rotation option for LCB position might mean that he plays when he should have been rested, or even worse, playing LCB when he's needed at LB.
Malacia is a fine rotation option, but he's not as good attacking wise.
Hopefully its just a knock and he will be fine tomorrow. We will be kind of ok with Malacia for the Barca game but having him there with Martinez is a different level.
Yeah, saw that he had ice on his knee on the bench, and feared the worst...I think he's fine, he did this run up to outside the penalty box after it.