He should but I doubt his body is even up to it any longer, either that or the horrendous leg break meant that he mentally isn't there and never will be.
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He should but I doubt his body is even up to it any longer, either that or the horrendous leg break meant that he mentally isn't there and never will be.
Has a contract to 2023 with an option to extend it one more year 
Thats fine, we need a good bench option and a challenger to Williams.Has a contract to 2023 with an option to extend it one more year
If I remember correctly, before that leg break, he was absolutely lethal for us
Another player on massive wages that we'll struggle to get rid of
I remember when everyone claimed Mourinho was bullying him.
Sell him to Chelsea.
Yea, saying how X player had a good half due him being on the same side of the pitch as that classless cnut because its his brain and players body, good shit.
The problem is that he's not reliable because of injuries. And I don't like to have players without ambition at our club. He can't manage to stay fit when he's playing, how is it going to look like when he's not playing? IMO, he's finished at the highest level and I think, as a player, he'll only get worse.
There was a rumour that Leicester were interested in him, should Chilwell moves on.
Looks like he’ll be a back up to Williams for the foreseeable future. Never really came back after that leg break.
I don't understand why he doesn't just lose the excess weight that's holding him back? Is he stupid or something?
It's pretty normal that you fill out as you get older. He's gone from 19 in 2015 to 24 now, but you get the impression he's just happy to do the absolute minimum. When he plays it's always safe.
This is over exaggerated a bit though. His leg break was very early in the season. I think he had a decent run of 5/6 games. It wasn’t like he had performed highly for an entire season.
Tbf the biege shirt makes you look fatter a bit.
Yep and two of those games were against Brugge where Depay looked like a world beater.
I'm sure if Shaw leaves to a new team, they will find out something wrong with his diet or metabolic system and would help him lose the weight, thus improving his performances by a mile.
Shaw is a bit of a coward and has lost his explosiveness as a player, but our medical department is a joke and I wouldn't put it past them not being able to detect something very specifically wrong with individual players.
He's reportedly on £150k a week, we might need to get rid of him on a free transfer to compensate his inflated wages
Really? If you have something factual to back that up it would be nice if you share that knowledge. Of course you could refer to Lukaku who could or could not be telling the truth.
It's pure speculation on my part, but like I said, I have no faith in the medical department in our club. Too many examples of some sort of internal problem to look past that.
Examples?
Just from this season, you mentioned the Lukaku one - I don't like him at all, but I don't see why he would lie about something like that. The Pogba injuries, he should not have played against Rochdale and Arsenal when he aggravated the problem even further.
In general our injury record has been appalling for many years and I don't know if that is a problem with the conditioning of the team or the recovery part, which also includes injury prevention and catching small problems before they become a lot worse.
Even Mourinho was moaning about that a lot at some point of his tenure here.
Normal yes for the common folk but as a pro, the older he'd get, the more cautious he'd need to be with his nutrition.
Mourinho does that. The other points aren't based on anything but opinions or speculation. I guess saying the medical staff is useless or a joke is in line with bashing the club regardless of any actual knowledge.
He's clearly on the heavier side and I sadly don't think he has the drive to succeed at the very top.
Do you have someone that works in that area at the club, is that why you are so protective? I can go and find out the injury statistics for the last few years and prove to you how bad it is, but I don't have the time right now.
I said I was mostly speculating based on public knowledge but you chose to be obnoxious about it. No problem.
That leg break really ruined him. He was the best LB in the league at the age of 18 while at Southampton. Looked like he was going to become one of the great PL LBs and then he got that leg break and just hasn't been the same player at all.
I think so too, his injury was horrible but it's no excuse to not be in better shape.
Just bizarre that he was our player of the year last season. Honestly one of the first 5 players we should get rid of.
I’ve said it a couple years ago and it continues to be a problem. Shaw is stuck in a vicious cycle with his hamstring. He’s overweight - his core is weak and his hamstring has not been able to keep up.
With our athletes we usually get them loaded with hamstring strengthening but truly have found it is a complex problem that originates from carrying too much weight.
How bad does he want to be professional and determined to keep weight off? Well as we can see he couldn’t give a flying feck. He puts in as much effort with his weight as he does when he has the ball in the final 1/3. Get rid please
With our athletes we usually get them loaded with hamstring strengthening but truly have found it is a complex problem that originates from carrying too much weight.
How bad does he want to be professional and determined to keep weight off? Well as we can see he couldn’t give a flying feck. He puts in as much effort with his weight as he does when he has the ball in the final 1/3. Get rid please
Difficult to get rid with the contract he signed last season.
He was. Just because Shaw hasn't turned out how people expected doesn't mean we should rewrite history and pretend that Mourinho wasn't an absolute cnut to him and many other players.
It’s actually a perfect reason to reconsider ‘history’ (a subjective interpretation of what happened more like) because we are seeing the fruition. You were not there at Carrington with them, and any suggestion that the manager wanted anything but the best for his player and his team is surely fanciful. It has become clear that various approaches have not worked on Luke Shaw. Perhaps he has been the problem all along?
Defended Shaw to the hilt but I'm afraid I just can't do it anymore. He plays like he's afraid of getting injured again and it really does show. LB isn't one of the critical positions we should be looking at but maybe it should be addressed in the not to distant future. I think depending on Williams sort of backs that up.
Still a decent player, not as bad as some people make out, but the leg break has definitely curtailed his career. Probably better defensively than Williams, but not a patch on his attacking and build up play. He needs to mirror Williams' performances to have any chance of furthering his career at OT. I just hope that he sees how Williams has performed and can up his game, literally.
I heard Jose berate Shaw(and many other players) live on TV, his shticks were the definition of bullying someone.
Whether Shaw was mediocre or not, berating someone on live TV was simply bullying.
Or an attempt to coax something out of him that hugging and kissing him has also failed to do.
Saying that someone is playing with their body but your brains thus essentially calling them brainless isn't some attempt to coax something out of them.
Mourinho being a toxic cnut isn't something unlike himself and he was one toward Shaw.
Come on man. You know Mourinho created more problems than he fixed. He is the main reason for the strong anti-Pogba agenda. He also tried to make the fans believe that Rashford and Martial will never be good enough.
Mourinho might have been right about Shaw all along, but his reactions and words in public were often about preserving his own reputation and CV, that's not on.
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