ha_rooney
Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018
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He's a tank. Great to have him back. Doesn't look like he's lost any pace, hope he can stay fit.
Not sure. He did look like he pulled out once or twice where in the past he'd have gone in. Although there's absolutely nothing wrong with that as my biggest gripe about Jones is that he hasn't learnt his lesson after 5 years.So good to see him back, looks like the injury hasn't affected him in the slightest.
He looks like he has completely recovered from the injury. Made some good runs and didn't show any signs of inhibition at all. He definitely has not lost any of his paceI couldn't see the match yesterday, so wanted to ask, how did Shaw look? Was he playing like his pre-injury self or slightly inhibited? And how was in attack?
Until now Valencia has been very instrumental in contributing to attacks, and it would be great if Shaw can match or better that (as we know he is capable of).
Yeah, Martial seems to prefer going outside and crossing, rather than cutting inside and shooting/linking up. No doubt he will improve that side of the game though.I don't agree with him not having lost pace - he actually looks to have added some. Sure, he was fast last year as well, especially that one run down the right (!) flank was impressive, but now I can actually see why he's rumoured to have been faster than both Bale and Walcott at Southampton. His runs are so powerful it's amazing. On top of that he is amazingly strong and brushed Mahrez off the ball as if he wasn't even there. He doesn't quite have the dribbling and agility of Evra, but he's damn good!
I wonder if he is a better fit with Depay than Martial though? Martial doesn't use the overlapping fullback it seems, no wonder having had to play with Rojo, but there were a couple of times where Martial could easily have used Shaw to get a cross in and instead dribbled down the line. Martial will improve, so I'm sure they'll develop a good understanding.
Just a shame we don't have another flying fullback on the other end. Valencia is a safe option but he doesn't offer the same offensive output these days as Shaw.
Not sure if serious.
Very serious.
I have a lot of time for Valencia, but his shin fetish and tendency to abruptly stop and pass it back does my nut in sometime. He is capable of the odd great assist as per yesterday but I'm talking about his general game.
Completely disagree. Not saying you are but some people can be guilty of judging Valencia by winger standards. For a full back his attacking play is very good even taking into account the shitty crosses he's often prone to. He's also quite intelligent with his link up play and passing. Evra, for the most part was abysmal with his crossing, but he's generally considered great going forward. I'd say Valencia is better going forward than Shaw is right now.
Fair enough. FWIW I do think he's a solid option at RB and would be perfectly content with him being our starter for the duration of the season, but I don't share the view of him being a more effective offensive output. Take yesterday's game for example - we saw how Shaw always looked for the overlap run and was close to getting behind their fullbacks a couple of times. Valencia on the other hand I've noticed tends to pick up the ball, and dither around the byline, occasionally getting in the decent cross if not destroying the shins of the opposing fullback.
Just a shame we don't have another flying fullback on the other end. Valencia is a safe option but he doesn't offer the same offensive output these days as Shaw.
Not sure if serious.
oh come on. luke shaw is light years ahead of valencia. AV having a few good pre-season games doesn't change that.
Defensively yeah. Going forward Valencia is still better for me.
Since coming back from injury towards the end of last season Valencia has 7 assists in his past 15 games if you include the friendlies. According to transfermarkt Shaw has 3 assists in his entire career. I'm a huge fan of Shaw's but his offensive output isn't better than Valencia'sJust a shame we don't have another flying fullback on the other end. Valencia is a safe option but he doesn't offer the same offensive output these days as Shaw.