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2014-15 Performances

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the most composed young fullback I've seen in years - does everything well

he's going to be a rock for the next 10-12 years

be great to add someone as cool and reliable at the other fullback and defensive positions
 
One of our best players today. Did well considering the amount of changes we had to make in defence.
 
Brilliant. Even Zabeleta had to show him some respect late on in the game.
 
Genuinely don't think he had a good game today. :nervous:

Navas seemed to have the beating of him and thought he was caught out of position too often. Even then, you can tell he has a bright future ahead of him.
 
Revan said:
And he got paid to write that shit. It is amazing how some clueless idiots say that Shaw isn't a good defender. He already is one of the best fullbacks on the league when it comes to defending.
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Seems like a lazy assessment of a typical young full back to say this given that most are converted wingers. Shaw is excellent defensively, better than he is going forward in fact.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
Seems like a lazy assessment of a typical young full back to say this given that most are converted wingers. Shaw is excellent defensively, better than he is going forward in fact.
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That's definitely true. In fact going forward he's nothing more than average, but his defending rocks. With his speed and physique he'll be very good on attacking part of the game soon enough.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Genuinely don't think he had a good game today. :nervous:

Navas seemed to have the beating of him and thought he was caught out of position too often. Even then, you can tell he has a bright future ahead of him.
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Thank God I'm not the only one. I said the same thing in the post match thread, but after reading the other comments here thought I must have got it wrong.
 
I also agree he was pretty poor overall. Especially in possession. Defensively he was ok, although he was caught out once or twice.
 
Dante said:
Thank God I'm not the only one. I said the same thing in the post match thread, but after reading the other comments here thought I must have got it wrong.
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Thought the same myself, put it down to the club bias though.
 
He improved in the second half and finished the game strongly I thought.
 
I came here to say any criticism of Shaw is merely nitpicking and he's the best defensive fullback I've seen in a while and then I see that article. Some people deserve to be fired for spouting such shit.
 
Got to grips with the pace of Navas after struggling early on. Doesn't really bring us any threat going forward and certainly doesn't have the skill set to be a wing back. Sometimes all you want from your fullbacks is to be steady players, I think he's that already and still only a young man.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Thought the same myself, put it down to the club bias though.
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Nah, he had a good game. I was curious so looked at 5 or 6 different reviews. Almost every newspaper said he played well and rated him around 7/10.

Rojo and Smalling rightly had much lower scores. Smalling got quite a few 2s, which I think was generous to be honest.
 
Played really well. Like him a lot, especially if Rafael is on the other side constantly getting forward and Shaw is in a bit more of an Abidal style role, playing cautiously. Our best passer out of defense, too, which is another reason not to mind him not getting forward as voraciously as an Evra, Zabaleta or Rafael type.
 
Manucho the boss said:
Got to grips with the pace of Navas after struggling early on. Doesn't really bring us any threat going forward and certainly doesn't have the skill set to be a wing back. Sometimes all you want from your fullbacks is to be steady players, I think he's that already and still only a young man.
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Did Navas even get a cross past him? That was one of his most subdued performances. I don't think Shaw barely put a foot wrong today defensively. He's not going to fly past people like Evra but its refreshing to have a full back who's solid.
 
I didn't even know Navas was playing...
 
NinjaFletch said:
Genuinely don't think he had a good game today. :nervous:

Navas seemed to have the beating of him and thought he was caught out of position too often. Even then, you can tell he has a bright future ahead of him.
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Such mixed opinions.

I thought he was fairly awful first half. Improved second half. His defensive play is ok, although caught out of position a few times second half it improved second half.

But both halves he was awful going forward just looks like he lacks confidence, tends to cut back, no killer instinct at all. Poor decisions and does not look productive at all going forward which is very different from his play at southampton where dribbles etc were quite a good stat of his (if I remember correctly). But he was really poor yesterday, could only imagine what Baines, Evra, Kolarov, even Gibbs and Clichy would have done if they found themselves in some of the positions he did yesterday. But he made poor decisions either putting in a bad pass, or slowing down the play or cutting back and passing backwards.

Really disappointed with his perfomances so far. I want to like him, but he just looks too nervy / not playing naturally at the moment. It could be LVG enforcing possession football and he's just trying to keep the ball instead of waste it. But its not working IMO.

We do have to pursue with him though as no other options, and with his reputation maybe he'll develop into the player he is touted as.
 
It amazes me that even though we're evidently wank at defending people want to focus on the attacking instincts of our defenders. It's bizarre. Right now, I just want them to stop the ball hitting the back of the net and the best defender we have to stop that happening is Luke Shaw. Call me ecstatic.

I'm more worried about the shit the likes of Di Maria and Van Persie are serving up in the opposition half, not our 19 year old left back.
 
He's been defensively great in the last two games but really isn't offering enough going forwards. Which I would only partly blame him for, as none of our wide players have been linking up very well with him. It is a problem, though. Modern football requires attacking full-backs and Shaw has only very rarely got behind their defence.
 
Devil may care said:
Probably get shot down for this but I would like to see him tried as a CB, he seems much more of a natural defender than our actual CB's.
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Don't think that a stupid statement, I think he'd do well at CB, the only problem would be you'd lose his best asset, his attacking ability
 
Dobba said:
"Luke Shaw – 4 Couldn’t get forward as he likes due to City’s constant pressure. Looks out of shape and not a natural defender."

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-11-02/man-city-1-0-man-utd-player-ratings/

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That stinks of some lazy person that saw the score and judged him on previous form. Out of shape...

Journalism is such a joke. Danny Kelly was saying on the radio last week how we gave a band a rubbish review without listening to the record for the NME. He was in a record shop later on, heard a song being played, liked it and asked the owner who it was and it was the record he gave the crappy review of. He just laughed it off, showed no shame.
 
Seems that he preferes attacking alone that combining.

During the last 3 or 4 games, the few times he attacked well, it was pure lonely attacks. It’s true that Januzaj wasn’t great with Rafael neither Di Maria, but we need to find fluidity down the wings when we play this system

But I think that he begins to find his feet and putting good performances.
 
Jammydodger7 said:
Don't think that a stupid statement, I think he'd do well at CB, the only problem would be you'd lose his best asset, his attacking ability
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I'm not sure if there's a sarcastic tone to this post but what attacking ability is this? If anything his performances for Southampton and this season have shown his best asset is his defensive work and he really needs to develop an attacking instinct.
 
Devil may care said:
Probably get shot down for this but I would like to see him tried as a CB, he seems much more of a natural defender than our actual CB's.
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Finding a good center back is likely easier than finding a competent fullback in today's football. There's very few full backs who are defensively as solid as him.
 
Wednesday at Stoke said:
Finding a good center back is likely easier than finding a competent fullback in today's football. There's very few full backs who are defensively as solid as him.
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I don't know about that, we don't seem to have managed it, but of course if we could get a top LCB I'm very pleased with Shaw at LB.
 
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The thing is it would probably be easier to get another LB than a top LCB at this juncture.
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Definitely concur with the trying him at center-back bit. I look at Callum Chambers who also played at right for Southampton at a good level but some of his best performances have come at the center of Arsenal's defense, and Shaw's overall skillset is pretty comparable with him. That's the beauty of having young players, their positions are very fluid at times and they can unlearn+learn newly acquired concepts at a faster rate.

All things point to him being very good at the defensive aspect already contrary to media opinion and this calculated calmness is something we lack between our current set of CBs. Give him a run of 5-10 games, if it doesn't work out then let him carry on at LB. And like you pointed out, there's an abundance of quality young LBs around, so replacing him won't be an issue. We could get someone like Kurzawa or Rodriguez for a relatively smaller fee than an equivalent top class CB.

Wednesday at Stoke said:
Finding a good center back is likely easier than finding a competent fullback in today's football. There's very few full backs who are defensively as solid as him.
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Do we need an extremely solid leftback though ? The way football is being played right now, attacking instinct is a premium characteristic for that position. Most of the truly elite clubs have fullbacks who're only average at the back. Even Evra at his peak wasn't exceptional defensively but was a Top 3 leftback for about 5-7 seasons.
 
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Invictus said:
Do we need an extremely solid leftback though ? The way football is being played right now, attacking instinct is a premium characteristic for that position. Most of the truly elite clubs have fullbacks who're only average at the back. Even Evra at his peak wasn't exceptional defensively but was a Top 3 leftback for about 5-7 seasons.
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I think its the other way around, people find it hard to get a full back that can be solid defensively and try to play more attacking wingers into those positions, other than Lahm, Zabaleta and Ashley Cole until recently there's rarely been good defensive fullbacks but when they do come, they are invaluable. You only need to see the issues Evra had dealing with wingers like Lennon and jeopardizing the defense to understand the value of Luke Shaw.
 
Invictus said:
Definitely concur with the trying him at center-back bit. I look at Callum Chambers who also played at right for Southampton at a good level but some of his best performances have come at the center of Arsenal's defense, and Shaw's overall skillset is pretty comparable with him. That's the beauty of having young players, their positions are very fluid at times and they can unlearn+learn newly acquired concepts at a faster rate.

All things point to him being very good at the defensive aspect already contrary to media opinion and this calculated calmness is something we lack between our current set of CBs. Give him a run of 5-10 games, if it doesn't work out then let him carry on at LB. And like you pointed out, there's an abundance of quality young LBs around, so replacing him won't be an issue. We could get someone like Kurzawa or Rodriguez for a relatively smaller fee than an equivalent top class CB.
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LvG is known for converting younger players as well, but I guess right now we can't even try it out as we have no LB cover with Rojo hurt and Blind much better as a DM than a LB where his lack of pace is really a detriment and his positional sense can't cover for it.

The other alternative is for Shaw to stay at LB and for us to buy Laporte for LCB. :drool:
 
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