Lukaku vs other top strikers in the league

I have compiled few stats from Premier league official website and squwka comparing last 2 seasons of Lukaku vs Kane and Aguero.

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I considered last 2 seasons as I thought that gives more accurate stats than overall (as Lukaku and Kane were young players vs Aguero was at his peak)

Few interesting observations:
  • All 3 players' mins per Goals + assists is more or less same
  • Lukaku scored 8 goals in 22 games vs Top 6, which is a very good record considering he played for Everton
  • Lukaku scored in 42% of the games, his percentage would have been higher or even closer to other 2 had I excluded the games where they scored from penalties (couldn't find the stats), so Lukaku scoring goals in bursts is a common theme for any striker.
  • His injury record is excellent. Played in 74 out of 76 league games. 1 was unused sub and 1 was not in squad.
  • He has created most chances and most big chances than the other 2.
  • He is better dribbler than Kane.
  • Kane and Lukaku scored 12 and 11 goals from weaker foot which is a good record.
  • I excluded aerial duels in the stats, but Lukaku wins that won by a big margin.
  • Considering the strengths of the teams they played for, Lukaku's record is very good.
Their overall international records.
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Good stats very encouraging. Good work piecing that together.
 
You can't argue this point based on those stats. In my view you're a better dribbler if you have a higher percentage of completed dribbles than the other. Raw numbers could hide the fact he might try to dribble ten more times per game than Kane.

you would need to look at the number of dribbles attempted and the number of them which were successful. Then you could get a concrete answer.

for example per 90 Minutes, Lukaku has 66.67% and Kane has 50% and both have almost the exact same attempts. I could not find a dribbling stat per say but a take on is more worthwhile since you can dribbling can be meaningless but with take ons you are actually taking on the opponent.
 
Think the last two seasons from Aguero have been his least impressive, and Kane's dribbling's always looked hilariously bad to me. But I am very surprised about Lukaku's chance creation stats, even if Evertonwould endeavour to get everything through him.
 
Great work. Wow the fact that Lukaku is superior in the air despite almost doubling the next closest rivals attempts is amazing. You would think the more attempts that the actual "won" cell would be much lower.

Yeah, we have an excellent player in our hands now. Player whose best years are yet to come.

Like the stats show he scored with right foot, left foot and headers. Also if you watch his goals for Everton he scored almost all kind of goals, goals from crosses, from through balls, dribbling past players, poacher goals.
 
I have compiled few stats from Premier league official website and squwka comparing last 2 seasons of Lukaku vs Kane and Aguero.
Wow, thank you so much for the hard work.

Do you mind sharing the excel file? I have some free time and might consider compiling more players and more seasons.

To be clear, the goals exclude penalties and are from all competitions, right?

Well this just shows how ridiculously underrated the guy is on the Caf.

Reading this board, the mass would make one think that Lukaku is utterly useless beside scoring goals yet when the numbers come out, he's actually more productive than the other leagues top strikers when we're not only talking purely about goals. Registering more assists is just all the proof some needed.

Then another wide and out of control myth about him has been debunked. Seems the guy is actually very good against Top sides and bangs in the goals. One quick visit on the Caf and you have the majority telling you he's simply a flat track bully and doesn't do it against Top teams(this criticism seems to get directed at almost every single top players despite it mostly being myth and untrue most of the time).

So my question is, why is there this perception which seems to be a strong concensus around these boards that he only scores while being useless at everything else when in truth with hard number proof, he's actually one of, if not the most productive top striker in the league outside goals.

I mean the contrast between reality (Lukaku being productive and a beast outside just scoring) and this perpetrated myth(Lukaku is only good at scoring) is quite vast. So how did this myth came to land such strong credibility in the minds of so many?

Serious question, I'd like an answer to.
It's the same with what happened to Carrick in the past. An idea becomes trendy and popular and everyone just jumps on the bandwagon. Such is the nature of mobs.

Try googling mind virus.
 
Kane and Aguerro have better long shot accuracy than him. The problem is Martial and Rashford are also struggle with their shots outside the box.
I hope one of them would improved
 
Wow, thank you so much for the hard work.

Do you mind sharing the excel file? I have some free time and might consider compiling more players and more seasons.

To be clear, the goals exclude penalties and are from all competitions, right?

No, I considered only league goals so excluded only penalties from league. For those stats you can check premier league website.

Sure I will share the excel.
 
Brilliant work @roonsyer09!

It blows a lot of myths about Lukaku peddled here away.

"He does not assist enough" - debunked.

"He can't dribble" - debunked

"His all round play is poor" - debunked

"He is not a big game player" - debunked

"He is not as good as Kane" - debunked
 
Plenty of people failing to recognise the fact that other players will benefit from his mobility. Ibra was very static and in many ways I imagine fairly easy to defend against for sides who wanted to defend the penalty area
 
Great stuff, statistically he's just a bit shy of Aguero and Kane, he is also still young as is Kane, so upwards from here hopefully. What surprised me the most was how many chances he has created and how many assists he has, fantastic.
 
Clerly vrey strong to play that many games/minutes and good strike rate when you compare his penalty tally with Kane's
 
Well stats are all well and good. But kane, aguero, costa are a level above lukaku.

Lukaku is young though and may yet surpass them but i just dont see it at the moment
 
Well this just shows how ridiculously underrated the guy is on the Caf.

Reading this board, the mass would make one think that Lukaku is utterly useless beside scoring goals yet when the numbers come out, he's actually more productive than the other leagues top strikers when we're not only talking purely about goals. Registering more assists is just all the proof some needed.

Then another wide and out of control myth about him has been debunked. Seems the guy is actually very good against Top sides and bangs in the goals. One quick visit on the Caf and you have the majority telling you he's simply a flat track bully and doesn't do it against Top teams(this criticism seems to get directed at almost every single top players despite it mostly being myth and untrue most of the time).

So my question is, why is there this perception which seems to be a strong concensus around these boards that he only scores while being useless at everything else when in truth with hard number proof, he's actually one of, if not the most productive top striker in the league outside goals.

I mean the contrast between reality (Lukaku being productive and a beast outside just scoring) and this perpetrated myth(Lukaku is only good at scoring) is quite vast. So how did this myth came to land such strong credibility in the minds of so many?

Serious question, I'd like an answer to.
It's quite simple really. Just look for the stats of distance covered per 90 minutes and sprints per 90mins. I would be surprised if he is on the same level as the other two. In fact, saw this article a few days ago on skysports that showed him being inferior to zlatan last season on the above. That's the 35 year old legless zlatan. This screams laziness , hence the issue of contribution to the team.

One of my main issues with zlatan was his ability to press the opposition's backline and keeper to prevent build up from the back and disrupt their tempo. I actually suspect lukaku Will do this better given than he can afford i.e. less need to conserve energy. The bit where I worry back about lukaku is the off the movement. Especially when not in transition i.e when opposition are camped in their box. This is what players like pogba rely on. I hope works out because if he fixes these bits sky's the limit. Kane won't even come close
 
Well stats are all well and good. But kane, aguero, costa are a level above lukaku.

Lukaku is young though and may yet surpass them but i just dont see it at the moment

They aren't. Kane is better but Costa isn't. Lukaku has outscored Costa in last 2 seasons.
 
It's quite simple really. Just look for the stats of distance covered per 90 minutes and sprints per 90mins. I would be surprised if he is on the same level as the other two. In fact, saw this article a few days ago on skysports that showed him being inferior to zlatan last season on the above. That's the 35 year old legless zlatan. This screams laziness , hence the issue of contribution to the team.

One of my main issues with zlatan was his ability to press the opposition's backline and keeper to prevent build up from the back and disrupt their tempo. I actually suspect lukaku Will do this better given than he can afford i.e. less need to conserve energy. The bit where I worry back about lukaku is the off the movement. Especially when not in transition i.e when opposition are camped in their box. This is what players like pogba rely on. I hope works out because if he fixes these bits sky's the limit. Kane won't even come close

No it doesnt.
 
One stat that lukaku shits all over kane : he's a united player.
Yep. Some players when they come to a club like us, they get nervous. Others, they get more of a pep in their step. They understand that they're part of something BIG, they let that fuel em like they're part of a mafia or something. I get this vibe off of Lukaku. Happy to have him
 
Can't help but feel this thread was posted to justify a feeling of apathy.

You wouldn't have seen a thread like this had Griezmann signed.

Oh, my new girlfriend might be a bit ugly but she's got great boobs. Etc etc
 
Can't help but feel this thread was posted to justify a feeling of apathy.

You wouldn't have seen a thread like this had Griezmann signed.

Oh, my new girlfriend might be a bit ugly but she's got great boobs. Etc etc

So, this thread was posted for misinformed people like you and bust few myths.
 
So, this thread was posted for misinformed people like you and bust few myths.
No myths busted with me mate, I don't rate the lad, nor will I after a few stats. I've seen him play live a few times, and not once did I wish he played for my team (Liverpool)

Lovren had him in his pocket last time I saw him. How poor a player can you be if Lovren dominates you?
 
No myths busted with me mate, I don't rate the lad, nor will I after a few stats. I've seen him play live a few times, and not once did I wish he played for my team (Liverpool)

Lovren had him in his pocket last time I saw him. How poor a player can you be if Lovren dominates you?

Oh yeah that proves he is shit. Jog on.
 
Oh yeah that proves he is shit. Jog on.
The fact he's shit proves he's shit.

Missed out on Griezmann, settled for Lukaku. Justify it all you want mate but you, nor anyone else on this forum wanted him on the 1st July. You're fooling nobody. Reminds me of a very similar thread when Bodgit signed Ballotelli. I was facepalming at fellow fans justifying it.
 
No myths busted with me mate, I don't rate the lad, nor will I after a few stats. I've seen him play live a few times, and not once did I wish he played for my team (Liverpool)

Lovren had him in his pocket last time I saw him. How poor a player can you be if Lovren dominates you?

Lets see how it goes the next time we meet, mate...
 
Remember when the Caf was criticizing Lukaku when McNair got the better of him? :lol:
 
The fact he's shit proves he's shit.

Missed out on Griezmann, settled for Lukaku. Justify it all you want mate but you, nor anyone else on this forum wanted him on the 1st July. You're fooling nobody. Reminds me of a very similar thread when Bodgit signed Ballotelli. I was facepalming at fellow fans justifying it.

You surely look home at RAWK. So the player who was second highest goal scorer in the league and the striker who contributed as many goals + assists in open play as Kane (in last 2 seasons) is shit? You really should head to RAWK.

These are all just by me and these are much before July 1st, most of them was during the season, so you can stop your little assumptions.

Lukaku. Icardi is limited on the ball but very lethal striker, probably has the best conversion rate among the strikers. Haven't watched others play, I go for Lukaku as he is one of the best strikers in the league and doesn't need much time adapting to the league.

Icardi is nearly useless outside the box, so his work in the build up play is poor. He has improved this season but still average. Icardi has better first touch and finishing though, he is very good at converting chances. Saying that he is very poor dribbler and his hold up play is poor.

Lukaku's first touch is inconsistent but he can hurt opponents in many ways and can create chances out of nowhere which Icardi can't.

Btw, I wouldn't read much into National team form, it's completely different from club form.

If you include only non penalty goals then Kane isn't much better goal scorer. It's very close.

So Costa to either Atletico Madrid or China and Lukaku to Chelsae? Looks very much possible.

Hopefully we are in for him, should sort the attack for years.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/rom...d-personal-terms.412308/page-25#post-20594113

How can Lukaku guarantee 20 league goals? He never played for ManUtd and ManUtd don't play the same style as Everton.

I like Lukaku and would love to have him at ManUtd but your posts are very tiresome. Each one have their own view about players and the style of players they want at their club, you don't have to make decision for everyone.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/rom...d-personal-terms.412308/page-31#post-20622922

This one I posted on March 22nd. I should be ITK @Damien @Raoul
Even I think so. ManUtd will let go Rooney for nothing so Everton save money on transfer fee but ManUtd will make money in the difference of wages between Rooney and Lukaku.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/wayne-rooney-having-medical.426020/page-37#post-20629899

Looks like Lukaku is our best bet. Finding the regular goal scorer must be the hardest thing in the game.

Some of the top scorers in top 5 leagues:

La Liga: Apart from Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez the next best scorers are
Aspas - 15 goals
Griezmann - 14 goals

Bundesliga:
Auba - 25 goals
Lewandowski - 24 goals
Modeste - 22 goals
Werner - 15 goals

La Liga:
Belotti - 23 goals
Dzeko - 23 goals
Mertnes - 20 goals
Icardi - 20 goals
Higuain - 19 goals
Immobile - 18 goals

Ligue 1:
Cavani - 27 goals
Lacazette - 24 goals
Gomis - 16 goals

Few of these players aren't good enough or old players and few of them are impossible to sign. Very small bracket to pick a good player.

You are looking way too much into this. If you check any PL striker record it will be same. No player will score in all games. Even when RVP was in beast form he didn't score in 10 games on a trot.

Just to compare with other strikers in other leagues.

Lukaku scored in 15/31 games
Kane scored in 11/23 games
Costa scored in 16/29 games
Sanchez scored in 12/30 games
Aguero scored in 12/25 games

Belotti scored in 16/28 games
Dzeko scored in 18/31 games
Higauin scored in 15/31 games
Icardi scored in 12/29 games

Suarez scored in 18/29 games
Ronaldo scored in 13/24 games
Griezmann scored in 12/30 games

Lewandowski scored in 14/28 games
Auba scored in 17/26 games

Few players have better average but in general Lukaku's scoring rate is on par with other big strikers.

Exactly. If someone who never watched Lukaku reads posts here, they will think he is championship or league 1 striker.

And also rated by managers like Jose and Conte.

Lukaku is very much underrated on CAF.
 
The fact he's shit proves he's shit.

Missed out on Griezmann, settled for Lukaku. Justify it all you want mate but you, nor anyone else on this forum wanted him on the 1st July. You're fooling nobody. Reminds me of a very similar thread when Bodgit signed Ballotelli. I was facepalming at fellow fans justifying it.

We've not missed out on Griezmann.

He chose not to go -this season- because of the transfer ban - if that wasn't upheld he'd have been ours.

And he'll be here next summer anyway, barring a catastrophic season.
 
Number of shots won't prove whether the player is better finisher, you should analyze from where the shots were taken and how tight the angle was or how crowed box was and so many factors. You have to watch and rate, it's impossible to rate using stats.

The amount of shots is a large enough sample that variation in shot type and difficulty won't be enough to distract from his original point. Good try though.
 
We've not missed out on Griezmann.

He chose not to go -this season- because of the transfer ban - if that wasn't upheld he'd have been ours.

And he'll be here next summer anyway, barring a catastrophic season.
Well, we have. We wanted to sign him and we haven't. The reasons don't really matter. For now, we have missed out on him. He may or may not come here next summer.
 
Only thing that i don't like with him is his ball control. It is bloody awful.
Everything else looks fantastic.