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Conte won't give up until he gets Lukaku same as Zidane won't give up on Pogba. I just hope we don't get caught out with getting replacements if they go in the last couple of days.
 
Conte won't give up until he gets Lukaku same as Zidane won't give up on Pogba. I just hope we don't get caught out with getting replacements if they go in the last couple of days.

Both clubs can not and will not come up with offers this season to price them away from us. It's best for Ole and Phelan to come up with a system which gets the best from both of them.
 
Well if we bid 70m for Maguire... Skriniar is probably a better player

He's probably not though. He's a 40 million player max for me, but wildly over rated on the Caf for some reason. If he's worth 70 then United need to be getting in excess of 120 million for Lukaku.
 
For the second time yeah. Transfer speculation is more low maintenance and still accurate
Low maintenance? It’s changing a thread title. This is what happens when there is a significant update within a thread, so people know there’s a reason to enter it other than to read idle gossip.
 
Conte won't give up until he gets Lukaku same as Zidane won't give up on Pogba. I just hope we don't get caught out with getting replacements if they go in the last couple of days.
I don't think we'll sell if we don't have time to get a replacement. I think we have priced out both of these players. Pogba is pretty much staying at this point. I won't mind if Lukaku stays too if Inter can't pay up.
 
If 278th makes him 4th worst I apologise. If not, you are wrong. Also Martial did cover less distance so you’re wrong there.
I guess I'm wrong because it is worded wrong in the first one - probably they mean 4th worst from the forwards as usually GKs and CBs don't run as much as other positions. Still very very bad, even if Martial was worse, who by the way I'm not excusing for not applying himself better on the pitch.

There is a difference between the 2 players though - Martial ultimately has tons of ability on the ball and only his motivation pulls him back.
He's probably not though. He's a 40 million player max for me, but wildly over rated on the Caf for some reason. If he's worth 70 then United need to be getting in excess of 120 million for Lukaku.
I'd love Brozovic, a good midfield option for us.
 
I suspect there is a lot of posturing going on at the moment. He doesn't fit the vision the manager has for the team and frankly, he barely looked like a professional footballer at times last season. Plus, he clearly wants to go. When it gets to the point that we think Inter are losing interest, we'll change stance and agree on a deal.

I'd happily take something around £60m for him. We'll we will lose money on him, but we over paid 2 years ago and his stock has fallen. Take what you can and move on.
 
Inter are fecked. We hold all the cards right now.
They have basically told Icardi he is not wanted, they only have a 17 year old as backup... They will pay just a matter of time.
 
Couldn't find anything recent mate, sorry. Not many sites provide distance covered per 90 minutes, actually I don't think any do and it's mostly researches done for articles.
Thank's for the effort. Was just curious ;)
 
I want us to be smart, our forward line is inconsistent and he should only leave when we find an adequate replacement. He is still a striker who can score 20plus goals in a season in a proper creative team behind him. Cafe's view of him being completely useless is not true in my opinion. We have our own goals to full fill next season.

It's a myth he's worth 20 goals a season, he's done it once for Everton.

He ruins the pattern of play and after watching the way Ole has set the team up so far in preseason he doesn't fit in, he's shattered after a sprint.
 
Everton’s final season with Lukaku:
Finished 11th, 47 pts with +4 GD.

Everton’s first season without Lukaku:
Finished 7th, 61 pts with +18 GD.
 
It's a myth he's worth 20 goals a season, he's done it once for Everton.

He ruins the pattern of play and after watching the way Ole has set the team up so far in preseason he doesn't fit in, he's shattered after a sprint.

If you insist on only using league goals then you are correct.

Otherwise he posted 20-25-26 in his last three everton seasons..and 27 in his first season for us.
 
If you insist on only using league goals then you are correct.

Otherwise he posted 20-25-26 in his last three everton seasons..and 27 in his first season for us.

There's a certain system that suits him best but it's not a system Manchester United should be playing.

I've never seen him dominate a defender or create something from nothing, his general play is garbage, plays always break down around him.

Of all the strikers United have had over the years for me he's at the bottom of the pile just above Sanchez. Selling him is progress.
 
What players do Inter have that we might have interest in, in a player plus cash exchange?
I missed the game and have haven't seen Inter play in while but would people still be interested in Persic or Godin? So the 54m Inter offered plus either of them two?
 
So we've rejected a bid of £54m? Hope our brinkmanship pays off because we desperately need to offload him.
 
the only one I would have been interested in is Skriniar, but after watching him today I probably wouldn't. You obviously can't judge players based on a single preseason game but he really was shocking today. Plus he looks like a cnut.

Lautaro Martinez is another one but I highly doubt they'd move him either.
 
This just isint true, of course we want rid of him, we are just being subtle and respectful about it. It’s a good approach, unlike Inter with Icardi. Ultimately if Inter don’t buy him, there’s no one else who would, so we are stuck with him - but it’s clear he’s both not good enough for Utd and not in OGS’ plans.
You're letting your dislike of him cloud your judgment.
 
Everton’s final season with Lukaku:
Finished 11th, 47 pts with +4 GD.

Everton’s first season without Lukaku:
Finished 7th, 61 pts with +18 GD.
And we finished 2nd in Lukaku's first season after finishing outside the top 4 the previous season. What's your point?
 
There's a certain system that suits him best but it's not a system Manchester United should be playing.

I've never seen him dominate a defender or create something from nothing, his general play is garbage, plays always break down around him.

Of all the strikers United have had over the years for me he's at the bottom of the pile just above Sanchez. Selling him is progress.

He's certainly not got the all round game of a lot of our recent strikers. That's without any doubt.
He does follow an alarming line of players whose games have dipped after joining us.

I'm struggling to think of a last 6 years signing that has actually played better than we expected.
Martial had an initial burst, but then for his fee we were perhaps expecting wonder kid material anyway.

Either way, we can't be shipping him for 50 odd million. That just is silly.
 
So we've rejected a bid of £54m? Hope our brinkmanship pays off because we desperately need to offload him.

Brinkmanship? It's not even that, it's not being absolutely rinsed beyond belief.

We just signed a right back for 50m, so we can't be shipping the 2nd top scoring Premier league striker in the last 6-8 years for similar.
 
Brinkmanship? It's not even that, it's not being absolutely rinsed beyond belief.

We just signed a right back for 50m, so we can't be shipping the 2nd top scoring Premier league striker in the last 6-8 years for similar.

This line of thought is utterly crazy

a- No one gives a flying feck how much we spent on AWB. Apart maybe Leicester fans.
b- we bought AWB on mostly potential. By the looks of it, he's worth every penny as he does have all the skillset to become a top top RB. You can't say the same about Lukaku and Maguire both of whom have clear flaws in their game that won't allow them to become WC.
 
This line of thought is utterly crazy

a- No one gives a flying feck how much we spent on AWB. Apart maybe Leicester fans.
b- we bought AWB on mostly potential. By the looks of it, he's worth every penny as he does have all the skillset to become a top top RB. You can't say the same about Lukaku and Maguire both of whom have clear flaws in their game that won't allow them to become WC.

It's not crazy at all. The whole transfer market is based on comparisons.

City took full back fees to 50m, that's why we're paying that high for AWB.
Liverpool signing matey for 75m means Leicester are asking above that.

Sell Lukaku for 50m, and we'll be utter mugs, and find we'll be quoted lesser players for more.

Lukaku will probably go. But it'll certainly be for more money.
 
It was all bromance at the start, but seems to have totally disappeared the last season or so.

There was speculation they fell out, but they made a big show of dismissing it after the PSG win with Lukaku pretending to write press stories then embracing Pogba.
 
It was all bromance at the start, but seems to have totally disappeared the last season or so.
There seemed to be these little groups within the squad and I wonder if they used to egg each other on and stuff on the pitch. Say yes to the managers whilst discussing the total opposite behind closed doors when with one another. It wouldn't surprise me and it would explain a lot. Maybe it is very sensible to break these little groups and create a better environment.

I remember he would even argue with his team when in everton and stuff. He comes across as a snidey person sometimes.
 
It's not crazy at all. The whole transfer market is based on comparisons.

City took full back fees to 50m, that's why we're paying that high for AWB.
Liverpool signing matey for 75m means Leicester are asking above that.

Sell Lukaku for 50m, and we'll be utter mugs, and find we'll be quoted lesser players for more.

Lukaku will probably go. But it'll certainly be for more money.

The circumstances are totally different. AWB was bought not for what he had already produced on the pitch but mostly on potential. The guy has the POTENTIAL to become WC. It ain't that different to when we bought Rooney, Ronaldo and Shaw. Lukaku on the other hand is the finished product.

Inter doesn't give a feck about the way we look. 54m is huge money for them. If Conte wasn't such a cry baby Inter would have probably bailed out already. They already have a players who is better then him in Icardi and Lautaro has enough talent to be better then him in 1-3 years time.
 
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He's certainly not got the all round game of a lot of our recent strikers. That's without any doubt.
He does follow an alarming line of players whose games have dipped after joining us.

I'm struggling to think of a last 6 years signing that has actually played better than we expected.
Martial had an initial burst, but then for his fee we were perhaps expecting wonder kid material anyway.

Either way, we can't be shipping him for 50 odd million. That just is silly.

He's not got the all round game Rashford and Martial have. Playing as strikers this year one of those 2 will score 20+ goals. We also have Greenwood pushing through now who can play all 4 front positions. The future without Lukaku looks really bright to me.

There's no market for him besides Inter it seems and they want to pay with love 2 shop vouchers. I'd take £60m, plus realistic add ons to up to about £72m. I think we overpaid for him in the first place.

I don't know. De Gea has got better, Martial was great initially so was Shaw until his injury. Most of the stalled and regressed development of players occurred under Mourinho.

After watching the pre season games so far I'm excited to see what Ole can do for the players. Early signs are encouraging.
 
He's not central to how Ole wants his teams to play. Lukaku does not have many suitors to create an auction. I'd take 60 Million with 10 Million on easy add-ons and give kids a chance and see how it goes for a season.
 
That was a shockingly low bid from Inter. It's not even close to what we want. Any chance Inter don't actually want him but, Conte does? This bid would represent that. "Yup, we tried to sign him, as evidenced by our bid to United. Just didn't work out. Sorry Conte!"
 
So we've rejected a bid of £54m? Hope our brinkmanship pays off because we desperately need to offload him.


Now is the time United hold fast and start rejecting offers that aren't good enough over Lukaku???? Ask for another 10 mil and be done with it..
 
That was a shockingly low bid from Inter. It's not even close to what we want. Any chance Inter don't actually want him but, Conte does? This bid would represent that. "Yup, we tried to sign him, as evidenced by our bid to United. Just didn't work out. Sorry Conte!"
Simply they just can’t afford him and are trying to see if there is any way we’d do buisness.
 
Said in another thread. The line now should be:

"You have until next weekend to meet our valuation. If you don't, come back next summer. We will only sell Lukaku if we have adequate time left to bring in a replacement. You have until next weekend to give us X, if not, don't return after that."
 
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