If we got a RW with 20+ goals then maybe not. Liverpool's front 3 all score nearly 20 goals each while Martial and Rashford barely reach 10 goals. Massive difference.
Lukaku and Sanchez - cut our losses? Poll now added
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Well that's were we should invest - Martial can definaltey do 15+ we need a goal scoring RW
We do. Can we trust the club to do it after they blatantly ignored this position for 6-7 years now? Probably not.
That's the million dollar question...
Paying £400k per week has partially got us into this mess. What will new, quality players demand when they know this?
I'm reverting to my original stance. Lukaku can be quite a useful player, as a squad option. But I'd much rather have a fluid front 3 and squad options that complement that fluidity going forward.
And it appears he's not that keen on staying if his agents comments are to be believed.
And it appears he's not that keen on staying if his agents comments are to be believed.
Lukaku excelled in a team that where he didn't have to do loads of back to goal stuff, and got to roam into loads of space and get shots off.
A lot of our games call for more precise footwork, so he definitely suffers for that. Not having much on the right side of our attack doesn't help either.
Can Rashford play a whole season as main front man though? That'd be my massive doubt, so keeping Lukaku seems smarter, than shipping for half of what we paid.
A lot of our games call for more precise footwork, so he definitely suffers for that. Not having much on the right side of our attack doesn't help either.
Can Rashford play a whole season as main front man though? That'd be my massive doubt, so keeping Lukaku seems smarter, than shipping for half of what we paid.
I don't think this is quite accurate.
I'd re-word it as there's only a handful of top-tier strikers who have scored more in the Premier league then him.
It's like our managers are trying to be too clever, thinking that instead of a proper pacey goal threat right winger, we can instead smuggle a number 10 in there to overload the centre. Ignoring that we then end up relying on the right back to cover the whole wing, when our right back is arguably our second weakest player in the starting lineup after lack of a right winger.
I'm not sure anyone wants Lukaku sold without getting another striker to compete with Rashford. Just a striker who fits a more fluid attacking game.
If it's a choice between selling Lukaku and getting no one or keeping him around, then it's fairly obvious we should hold onto him.
I was leaning towards changing my vote but I think they should both go. Well Sanchez has to leave.
Rom is never going to be a player good enough so why waste time with him? If he stays another season still playing second fiddle, then the amount we'd get would drastically reduce anyway. You just can't keep someone who isn't clutch in important moments, his misses against Arsenal and Wolves has just killed us for top 4.
Rom is never going to be a player good enough so why waste time with him? If he stays another season still playing second fiddle, then the amount we'd get would drastically reduce anyway. You just can't keep someone who isn't clutch in important moments, his misses against Arsenal and Wolves has just killed us for top 4.
We need a stone cold goalscorer, like rudd, or Rvp, aguero type , we need to unearth or obtain a ready made one, we would had won against , arsenal and both wolves defeats had we had such a type player, thats the difference between us and pool , city they have type players we dont .
Any player who wants out, let them off. We don't want player's who will not give us 110%.
That genie is already out of the bottle. Any player we want to sign, (unless they really want to play for us and not just after the next big payday) will ask for more than they would get offered anywhere else.
Some of it may be down to Lukaku, but I would question whether all of the difference is. Aguero is obviously the better player, but he does benefit from playing in a far better team.
Supposedly, Aguero has had 97 chances and Lukaku 52 chances (The 45 chances difference must be down to both the lack of creativity in our squad and some down to Lukaku being inferior to Aguero).
The biggest issue is: are there any strikers available we actually want to sign? I cannot think of one myself, but then I am limited to watching the Premier League and Champions League so there might be someone around.
I don't think we can risk selling Lukaku if there is nobody around we want to sign, otherwise, we could end up with someone worse than Lukaku because we are desperate.
I can't stand Lukaku but I'd only sell if we have a viable replacement. Because other areas are more urgent which highlights the dire circumstances we're in.
I’m of the same opinion, in fact I’d prefer to have his replacement in just as he’s leaving.
I don’t think he’ll leave though , there’s going to be a decent enough exodus as it is if you believe the tabloids (Rojo, Darmian,Ander, Mata)
Spot on conclusion,. If he was fed with more balls into his field of operation, , he would score more goals.
Also dont underestimate the effect if buying other teams cast offs since the glaziers, is playing its part. We as a team are only at best, firing on 3 cylinders and hence our forwards are not scoring regularly. Watch the difference in creativity between a team with world class footballers and our motly also rans when we play Barca.
100% this
City or Liverpool would have been 3 goals up the other night at Wolves and the game would have been won even if they had defenders as shit as ours.
Sell both. Neither are good enough. Lukaku is a top 6 quality player at best. His all around game is awful.
Sanchez is finished. He's done a ''Rooney'. Fallen off a cliff playing wise over night.
The money we can recoup, especially the wages, can be put to much better use.
Sanchez is finished. He's done a ''Rooney'. Fallen off a cliff playing wise over night.
The money we can recoup, especially the wages, can be put to much better use.
Jovic and Piatek are there for the taking. I would have no problem selling Lukaku for a £50m and buying one of those.
This and This.
Good to see I wasn't the only one that let run of three games of lukaku scoring change their mind unlike others who flip flopped and now wants him out again. Football it's better analyse the body of work and not rush to hasty conclusion.
The thing is - the only way we upgrade on Lukaku & get a 20 goal per season scorer is by selling Lukaku & sanchez whilst replacing both by Bale.
I get why people don't want him - but it's going to happen. He will make the money, he will be more than decent in some games & in the games he doesn't or if he is out injured gives a chance to Martial, Greenwood & Rashford.
Striker partnerships
Rashford - Bale
Rashford - Greenwood
Martial - Bale
Martial - Greenwood
Unfortunately for a lot of fans - Bale is goi g to happen - because he ultimately makes sense & also provides the experienced ability to player's like Rashford, Martial & Greenwood who are wide channel forwards much like Bale was.
I get why people don't want him - but it's going to happen. He will make the money, he will be more than decent in some games & in the games he doesn't or if he is out injured gives a chance to Martial, Greenwood & Rashford.
Striker partnerships
Rashford - Bale
Rashford - Greenwood
Martial - Bale
Martial - Greenwood
Unfortunately for a lot of fans - Bale is goi g to happen - because he ultimately makes sense & also provides the experienced ability to player's like Rashford, Martial & Greenwood who are wide channel forwards much like Bale was.
This again. Sanchez yes, Lukaku not really, just rotate.
I'm struggling to find a game where Sanchez had a good overall performance, creating chances for others and not giving the ball away all the time.
I saw something was wrong in his last half-season at Arsenal, but thought it was just a temporary drop in performance due to him wanting to leave.
I'm one of the few that still wants to see him here for another season, just in case he turns things around, but I reckon a sale would give the club money to buy a younger player.
I saw something was wrong in his last half-season at Arsenal, but thought it was just a temporary drop in performance due to him wanting to leave.
I'm one of the few that still wants to see him here for another season, just in case he turns things around, but I reckon a sale would give the club money to buy a younger player.
All these people keep changing their mind. Best thing is wait until end of season.This issue I have with Lukaku is amount of promising moves that break down due to his poor touch. At times he appears unable to control simple passes.
It's all well and good people saying we should play to his strengths but a man United striker needs a better all round game.
Obviously he would need replacing as we'd be thin on numbers but I do wonder what people expect of Rashford given he's only turned 21.
He's improving all the time and has just hit double figures in the league ( along with Martial) and he's got 8 in the 17 or so matches since Ole took over in his most productive season.
A lot of strikers suddenly become prolific at 21/22 (Kane, Ronaldo for example). I think there's every reason to be confident he can be the main man.
If we could get 70 or 80 for Lukaku and get someone in who can play across the front 3 and suits ole style if be happy enough.
Someone to play alongside and compliment Rash and Martial should mean more goals all round.
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Can we risk hoping that Rashford becomes like Kane or Ronaldo next season, though? If he didn't, we would have a big problem next season. I would be concerned myself if we didn't sign a striker at least as good as Lukaku if he were to leave.
If we sold Lukaku, I think we would actually have to go for someone who is better than him as a striker or there is no point in selling him. This player would likely need to be Aguero standard, which would mean Rashford would rarely ever play as a striker (depending on injuries of course).
On top of that, we would need to sign a top quality right winger as Martial and Rashford are not good enough there. This means that Rashford and Martial would be fighting for the left-wing. One of them is going to be losing a lot of playing time, which I think will be Martial.
So, I think selling Lukaku will actually be detrimental to the time Rashford plays as a striker and Martial's total playing time. Rashford has more chance of playing over Lukaku than a new top-tier signing.
I am not saying to not replace Lukaku in the future, but I think it would be a mistake to do it this summer when we have so many areas that take priority in terms of the need for improvement.
Improving our right side would make us a lot more creative, which will lead to more chances. More chances obviously mean that our front players will inherently score more goals.
Alexis hasn't worked out - I'd move him on, with best wishes as he has tried hard everytime ne has played, but simply isn't delivering what we need (or would expect)
Lukaku, I'd keep - I'd like to see what he could do with some key signings in summer and he is still young (from an asset perspective)
Lukaku, I'd keep - I'd like to see what he could do with some key signings in summer and he is still young (from an asset perspective)
Same here. I am actually shocked watching Sanchez these days. I thought his performances during his last months at Arsenal were temporal. I was convinced he could transform our attack. Shocking to see his steep decline.
I think Lukaku is underrated. He is such a fine goalscorer.
Chuck em both.
The Barça game should have been made for Sanchez - such a shame he’s lost it.
The Barça game should have been made for Sanchez - such a shame he’s lost it.
With some players, you could see they still had something.
Rooney had a few nice touches here and there, Torres created chances for others at Chelsea... Sanchez can't do anything right.
Sell Sanchez,keep Lukaku....It’s a no brainier really...
Who can we realistically sell Sanchez too?
It was what I voted originally. But I can't shake the feeling that Lukaku is just not good enough to be a united striker.
I was very and maybe overly critical when Rooney would lose the ball with his first touch, to be fair the same should apply to Lukaku.
So just changed my vote to reflect that.
Try posting on Amazon or Ebay?
Lukaku should go. Said it before but he doesn't seem to fit the style wants to implement, is on high wages and we could get a good fee for him. Just seems logical to move him on.
Yh I agree, I can only assume the posters who want us to keep him are doing so because he had good stats with previous clubs? There's been nothing in his play since he joined us that suggests he will suddenly come good.
This coming transfer window is crucial for us because we're in danger of being back out of the CL & no closer to challenging for the PL again. Lukaku doesn't fit our style and we shouldn't hang onto player for sentiment or because they were good elsewhere. All that matters is their form for us and his has not been good enough.
Wonder if this has not drastically changed over the last few weeks.