Lukaku and Sanchez - cut our losses? Poll now added

[redDNA]

Keep Lukaku .

Terminate Sanchez contract, I doubt we can sale him, even the Chinese and MLS clubs are now picky.

It doesn't make both football and financial sense to keep him. End his contract in summer ,use the remaining money we would have paid him till the end of his contract to sign another player, promote the few young players. His sale will also reduce our average wage, and put us in a strong position to negotiate De Gea and Pogba 's contract extension because they would not have a reference point to ask for jumbo wages.

 

[MPTutd]

We have to get rid of Alexis. I just don't see how he can come back from this. And I don't think he will put up with barely playing - I think he will accept a lower wage elsewhere.

 

[Scholsey2004]

Keep Lukaku .

Terminate Sanchez contract, I doubt we can sale him, even the Chinese and MLS clubs are now picky.

It doesn't make both football and financial sense to keep him. End his contract in summer ,use the remaining money we would have paid him till the end of his contract to sign another player, promote the few young players. His sale will also reduce our average wage, and put us in a strong position to negotiate De Gea and Pogba 's contract extension because they would not have a reference point to ask for jumbo wages.

If you tear up a players contract you have to pay the remainder of his wages for the duration of the contract unless the player agrees to waive it which seems unlikely, so doing this wouldn't save us any money or reduce the wage burden since he'd still get the same amount of money as if he'd played for us. A contract is a two way agreement and we've committed to pay him to work for us for the period of his contract.

 

[redDNA]

If you tear up a players contract you have to pay the remainder of his wages for the duration of the contract unless the player agrees to waive it which seems unlikely, so doing this wouldn't save us any money or reduce the wage burden since he'd still get the same amount of money as if he'd played for us. A contract is a two way agreement and we've committed to pay him to work for us for the period of his contract.

I didn't know ,we are in big trouble. Let's hope a club would be magnanimous enough to buy him, I doubt if he will agree to take a pay cut.

 

[syrian_scholes]

Can't belive that 47% of United supporters would like us to sell Lukaku.

 

[Scholsey2004]

I didn't know ,we are in big trouble. Let's hope a club would be magnanimous enough to buy him, I doubt if he will agree to take a pay cut.

Yeah, bad signing especially on such high wages. I don't even think he suits the way we play now on his best day.

 

[Scholsey2004]

Can't belive that 47% of United supporters would like us to sell Lukaku.

Its an old poll. His form has improved greatly since then. A lot of people don't revisit a poll after they vote. According to another poll 31% of united fans still want pochettino in charge which clearly isn't the case now.

 

[syrian_scholes]

Its an old poll. His form has improved greatly since then. A lot of people don't revisit a poll after they vote. According to another poll 31% of united fans still want pochettino in charge which clearly isn't the case now.

I constantly change votes so I assumed others do as well,

 

[Scholsey2004]

I constantly change votes so I assumed others do as well,

I do as well but some people believe a vote once cast should stand forever no matter how ruinous the decision.

 

[Ali Dia]

It’s Amazing how quickly it can all turn around in football. It’s quickly gone from lukakus worst period of form for us to his most dangerous.... most fans wanted to sell him. I would have sold based on this year and Rashford form in the middle. He’s been absolutely top class the last few weeks.

I do think Sanchez is done at the level we expect him to be at and certainly the level his wages suggest. Only China is going to take on those full wages and there’s no real incentive for him to move away from here apart from embarrassment at not being worth it! It’s Ed’s fault but I’m going to cut him some slack for hiring Ole and the fact to most (not me) signing Sanchez looked a no brainer. What’ll probably happen is Ole will tell him he’s a squad player next season and he’ll want to play regularly and we will end up heavily subsiding his wages for the duration of the contract elsewhere. Same thing as Rooney. We definitely won’t keep an unhappy underperforming player. Any quotes from Sanchez on how he thinks he’s doing here?

 

[Infra-red]

Ideally, we'd sell Sanchez and keep Lukaku.

Realistically, absolutely nobody in world football is going to be stupid enough to take Sanchez off our hands - we're stuck with him, for at least another year.

 

[Andersonson]

The state of fans is friggin unreal. 600 members in here would like us to sell a striker who is 25 years old, 80 caps for Belgium and is the 20th greatest all time goal scorer in the prem. At the age of 25..

So glad Ole has come in and proven you lot wrong. The guy is a beast and if you play him right he's a top top player

 

[manunited1919]

Can't belive that 47% of United supporters would like us to sell Lukaku.

It’s the same 47% that wanted Poch as manager a couple of weeks ago.

 

[manunited1919]

The state of fans is friggin unreal. 600 members in here would like us to sell a striker who is 25 years old, 80 caps for Belgium and is the 20th greatest all time goal scorer in the prem. At the age of 25..

So glad Ole has come in and proven you lot wrong. The guy is a beast and if you play him right he's a top top player

Good thing the club is not run by these fickle fans.

 

[starman]

The state of fans is friggin unreal. 600 members in here would like us to sell a striker who is 25 years old, 80 caps for Belgium and is the 20th greatest all time goal scorer in the prem. At the age of 25..

So glad Ole has come in and proven you lot wrong. The guy is a beast and if you play him right he's a top top player

Good thing the club is not run by these fickle fans.

You mean fans that are now basing a entire season off 3 games? The fickle one are the ones that get carried away making general opinions of a player based on what happens after their last game

 

[bosnian_red]

TO BE FAIR.... I did say for Lukaku that if he's ok with being a squad player/not an automatic starter then I'm ok with keeping him. Still feck knows if he'll be ok with the current role long term, but a big club needs quality depth so I'm all for keeping him. Still all for signing Sancho to replace Sanchez as well, so changed my vote to just Sanchez leaving...

 

[TheNextNo7]

A Chinese club or LA Galaxy may see the appeal in signing Sanchez, only 2 hopes really!

 

[Andersonson]

You mean fans that are now basing a entire season off 3 games? The fickle one are the ones that get carried away making general opinions of a player based on what happens after their last game

He's in his 2nd season.. In his first season he scored every 2nd game on average. Thats not bad at all.

Give him support and he'll challenge for the top scorer award in the prem

 

[haram]

We'd be fecking stupid to sell Lukaku, I'll say that much.

 

[ricky-romeo]

A Chinese club or LA Galaxy may see the appeal in signing Sanchez, only 2 hopes really!

maybe a club from Qatar too. with the world cup in 3 years time, a player like Sanchez could still be a big pulling factor. we just need to erase the last 1.5 year off his CV.

 

[Silas]

We'd be fecking stupid to sell Lukaku, I'll say that much.

Why? We'd get a load of money for him and if we don't intend to start him, it would make sense to get his wages off the wage bill, as useful as he may be.

 

[haram]

Why? We'd get a load of money for him and if we don't intend to start him, it would make sense to get his wages off the wage bill, as useful as he may be.

Who are we? Arsenal? This type of mentality is a Glazers dream.

 

[Silas]

Who are we? Arsenal? This type of mentality is a Glazers dream.

No team in the world has subs on circa 200k a week mate. Can't really call that penny pinching. I've said this so many times, but if he's on that much, we'll have players wanting ridiculous amounts in future contract negotiations.

 

[starman]

He's in his 2nd season.. In his first season he scored every 2nd game on average. Thats not bad at all.

Give him support and he'll challenge for the top scorer award in the prem

You talk about him like he's some academy player that we need to bide time with. He's a 90m player. Scoring regularly should be his bread & butter. He's does it in patches. Loads at the start of last season, then went on a awful run, not just that, but put in some awful performances.
This give him support or he lacks support argument is complete nonsense. Under Mourhino, the entire team was being built around him and was made indispensable no matter how bad he played.

Before the last 3 games people were thinking if we would get half the money back for him, thats how bad he's been the majority of season. We paid a world class price and we should expect a world class talent, same with Sanchez.

If Lukaku is happy being a squad player, much like Ole was, and United are willing to have a 250k/90m player regularly rotated,then fine, but we should be aiming higher imo, for that 3rd spot of a front 3 when everyone is fit.
If he continues his purple patch to the end of the season and Real is swayed by it, with Jose as manager.... offering 100m we would be silly not to take it.

 

[haram]

No team in the world has subs on circa 200k a week mate. Can't really call that penny pinching. I've said this so many times, but if he's on that much, we'll have players wanting ridiculous amounts in future contract negotiations.

He will play plenty of games. Rashford and Martial shouldn’t and wont just start every game.

 

[Silas]

He will play plenty of games. Rashford and Martial shouldn’t and wont just start every game.

Not doubting that he will, but 200k or however much he's on should be reserved for undisputed starters. Do you not think future players will base contract negotiations around what Lukaku's on? It's a slippery slope imo. We've already seen Dave demanding huge amounts because of Sanchez.

 

[haram]

Not doubting that he will, but 200k or however much he's on should be reserved for undisputed starters. Do you not think future players will base contract negotiations around what Lukaku's on? It's a slippery slope imo. We've already seen Dave demanding huge amounts because of Sanchez.

We can point to Lukaku’s scoring record. Lukaku is not the problem, its the mediocre players like Rojo who are.

 

[wolvored]

I think Lukaku will want to move on in the summer. He has already mentioned Italy a few times. When Martial is back and if we go for a RW, or even give Dalot a go, I can see him being on the bench again, if he does stop, doesnt matter how successful its been short term. Ole likes to play 3 up top. Rashford is not as good goal scoring wise as he was with a front 3.

 

[cyril C]

Sanchez obviously needs to leave.

Lukaku I would still rather sell if we can get decent money for him. People here have short memories and have seem to have forgotten how much better the team plays when we have a mobile front 3 in Martial, Rashford and Lingard. Lukaku has done pretty well since the injury crisis + the Arsenal game but the goals he scored shows what kind of service he needs, and it's not the service that will be provided by our best team.

Only reason he should stay is if the club are willing to spend big despite not selling him AND he's ok being a plan B. Otherwise we should cash in. His recent goals might increase his value too.

For argument sake should we sell Lukaku, are we going to get a replacement? What happen when Rashford injured or dude fire like last few games? Lukaku stepped in and scored 2 goals per game, what more can you ask for?

If you sell Lukaku who are you going to get? Someone cheaper? from Academy and expect to step in like Rashford?

Lukaku made the necessary changes to adapt to Ole's new system and he has done well, in fact, beyond my expectation. There will be competition upfront for sure and there will be space for 2-3 #9 in this club. Only matters is whether someone step up when opportunity present itself, the other example is Sanchez, nothing more need to say.

 

[predator]

Ideally offload Sanchez and replace him with a highly sought after winger (Sancho). Regarding lukaku I think we should keep but I think we need to invest in another striker for back up or pure competition. Having a poacher like Hernandez would be great imo.

 

[deadrevelz]

For argument sake should we sell Lukaku, are we going to get a replacement? What happen when Rashford injured or dude fire like last few games? Lukaku stepped in and scored 2 goals per game, what more can you ask for?

If you sell Lukaku who are you going to get? Someone cheaper? from Academy and expect to step in like Rashford?

Lukaku made the necessary changes to adapt to Ole's new system and he has done well, in fact, beyond my expectation. There will be competition upfront for sure and there will be space for 2-3 #9 in this club. Only matters is whether someone step up when opportunity present itself, the other example is Sanchez, nothing more need to say.

Yes I agree that if we don't use the money to bring someone else in it would be pointless, unless Ole thinks Greenwood can replace him. After the PSG 2nd leg I admit he's started to win me over, though I still believe against most teams we should set up as we had previously, preferably with an upgrade on Lingard.
We could play Martial as the main forward too if needed, he is very clinical.

 

[OohAahMartial]

Changed my vote again. Get rid of both if at all possible.

Same goes for any other's who want out. Start over again, it's not we don't know how much most of the want-aways hold us back.

 

[mariachi-19]

Saw Lukaku's manager made a comment about other clubs today...

Before making those sorts of comments, you better make sure your player is top class mate. If Bayern, Barca or Real came along and offered us 70 mill for big Rom, I reckon old ed would just about drive him to Munich, Madrid or Barca himself.

 

[wolvored]

Parcel them both up for anyone willing to pay £60+ Million. We get £550-600,000 a week off the wagebill. Give DeGea the £400,000 he wants then. That will then leave enough to pay another top player we buy a decent wage as well.

 

[Man of Leisure]

If Bayern, Barca or Real came along and offered us 70 mill for big Rom, I reckon old ed would just about drive him to Munich, Madrid or Barca himself.

April Fools was several days ago.

 

[Irwin99]

I keep forgetting we have Sanchez, he has to be one of the worst signings ever taking into account wages, performances and expectation

There's no way Barca, Real or Munich would want Lukaku but he's good enough to play for a smaller 'big' club. 60-70 million is a fair price in the current market for Belgium's all time top scorer and a decent goal/game ratio (not so much this season)

 

[Untd55]

Honestly, I don't think people are even thinking about the issues of selling Lukaku.

The guy is a guaranteed 20 goals per season striker. In reality, there are only a handful of top-tier strikers who are actually better than him, so who are we going to sign exactly?

If he is as bad as people say on here and we still sell him for £70m, how much are we going to have to spend on his replacement to actually get a player who is better than him? I would say it would be at least £120m in that case.

We cannot rely on just Rashford and Martial, both of whom have failed to ever get double figures in a league season, so there would be no choice in signing a striker. This would limit the resources we have to spend in other more pressing areas.

There is a post in another thread showing Lukaku has a higher chance-conversion rate than Aguero, Aubameyang etc. but noticeably he has far fewer chances. Does that not show our most pressing issue is fixing our creativity? The necessity of buying a striker would lower the funds we have to spend on a Right winger, Right Back, Central Midfielder, and a Centre Back (The first and third are key to our creativity issue).

We have enough issues to fix without needing to replace a striker as well.

On another note, Sanchez should be sold to fix our wage structure.

 

[ROFLUTION]

Honestly, I don't think people are even thinking about the issues of selling Lukaku.

The guy is a guaranteed 20 goals per season striker. In reality, there are only a handful of top-tier strikers who are actually better than him, so who are we going to sign exactly?

If he is as bad as people say on here and we still sell him for £70m, how much are we going to have to spend on his replacement to actually get a player who is better than him? I would say it would be at least £120m in that case.

We cannot rely on just Rashford and Martial, both of whom have failed to ever get double figures in a league season, so there would be no choice in signing a striker. This would limit the resources we have to spend in other more pressing areas.

There is a post in another thread showing Lukaku has a higher chance-conversion rate than Aguero, Aubameyang etc. but noticeably he has far fewer chances. Does that not show our most pressing issue is fixing our creativity? The necessity of buying a striker would lower the funds we have to spend on a Right winger, Right Back, Central Midfielder, and a Centre Back (The first and third are key to our creativity issue).

We have enough issues to fix without needing to replace a striker as well.

On another note, Sanchez should be sold to fix our wage structure.

Completely agree. There's just not many 20+ goals strikers available.

However, a more mobile striker to be added to the mix would be nice. We sort of only have two real attackers

 

[deadrevelz]

Honestly, I don't think people are even thinking about the issues of selling Lukaku.

The guy is a guaranteed 20 goals per season striker. In reality, there are only a handful of top-tier strikers who are actually better than him, so who are we going to sign exactly?

If he is as bad as people say on here and we still sell him for £70m, how much are we going to have to spend on his replacement to actually get a player who is better than him? I would say it would be at least £120m in that case.

We cannot rely on just Rashford and Martial, both of whom have failed to ever get double figures in a league season, so there would be no choice in signing a striker. This would limit the resources we have to spend in other more pressing areas.

There is a post in another thread showing Lukaku has a higher chance-conversion rate than Aguero, Aubameyang etc. but noticeably he has far fewer chances. Does that not show our most pressing issue is fixing our creativity? The necessity of buying a striker would lower the funds we have to spend on a Right winger, Right Back, Central Midfielder, and a Centre Back (The first and third are key to our creativity issue).

We have enough issues to fix without needing to replace a striker as well.

On another note, Sanchez should be sold to fix our wage structure.

Someone made a post recently which explained that the lack of chances was at least partly down to Lukaku himself as he rarely makes himself available for passes and doesn't create chances on his own, unlike other top strikers, or even Rashford and Martial.

I would get rid of both if we got a good offer for Lukaku. The comments made recently have firmly shifted me back to my original position when I was on the fence after PSG. Let's reinvest the money into a player we really need long term. He's our only valuable asset we would be happy to sell, unlike DDG and Pogba and the dead wood players.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Completely agree. There's just not many 20+ goals strikers available.

True - but do we need one? Look at Firmino he's never score 20 PL goals.