Luis Suárez

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Just saw ( i know it was only on goal.com) but the fee agreed is 58M GBP. Quite a drop from scouse fans expectation of 100M and the club clause of 70M. Be interesting what the net spend is now for the scousers.
 
It's a crying shame he's going to Barca really. Would have been a much better fit at the evil empire.

If Atletico turn out to be one season wonders, I'm giving up on La Liga altogether....

I fear it will have definitely have been a one season wonder and we'll see Barca/Real win the title for the next 15-20 years again (I can't remember the last time a club won it that wasn't one of them, it was Benitez's Valencia wasn't it?)

But yeah, so tiring seeing them 2 hoover up every player and getting different tv money to the rest of Spain. Disgusting really, farcical league.
 
Just saw ( i know it was only on goal.com) but the fee agreed is 58M GBP. Quite a drop from scouse fans expectation of 100M and the club clause of 70M. Be interesting what the net spend is now for the scousers.

If it is that, then they've already spent it on the mediocre signings they've already made if you include the wages. They'll be in dangerous territory stepping over their current budget. They would have failed FFP the season before the one just gone (if they were competing in Europe) so they are quite limited financially. Any investment made from here on out will be done on the assumption they'll make top four consistently. When you look at Arsenal (+ Sanchez), Chelsea (+ Fabregas and Diego Costa), City and Us (+ LvG, Mata [from the off], Shaw, Herrera and others) it's difficult to see where a Liverpool team with a couple of players from 8th placed Southampton will really fit in.

They either throw caution to the wind, try and replace the goals they'll lose with Suarez, with big investment and bank on doing well in Europe this season as a third seed team AND qualifying for CL again with an extra 10-15 games without the player who has carried them, or they try and rebuild slow time and hope Coutinho and Sterling continue to develop while plugging the obvious gaps in their defence over the next few seasons as well as replacing Gerrard.

Difficult times ahead.
 
Just saw ( i know it was only on goal.com) but the fee agreed is 58M GBP. Quite a drop from scouse fans expectation of 100M and the club clause of 70M. Be interesting what the net spend is now for the scousers.

It's goal.com. Barrett, Pearce and most other reliable sources all say in the region of £75m.

If it is that, then they've already spent it on the mediocre signings they've already made if you include the wages. They'll be in dangerous territory stepping over their current budget. They would have failed FFP the season before the one just gone (if they were competing in Europe) so they are quite limited financially. Any investment made from here on out will be done on the assumption they'll make top four consistently. When you look at Arsenal (+ Sanchez), Chelsea (+ Fabregas and Diego Costa), City and Us (+ LvG, Mata [from the off], Shaw, Herrera and others) it's difficult to see where a Liverpool team with a couple of players from 8th placed Southampton will really fit in.

They either throw caution to the wind, try and replace the goals they'll lose with Suarez, with big investment and bank on doing well in Europe this season as a third seed team AND qualifying for CL again with an extra 10-15 games without the player who has carried them, or they try and rebuild slow time and hope Coutinho and Sterling continue to develop while plugging the obvious gaps in their defence over the next few seasons as well as replacing Gerrard.

Difficult times ahead.

All the signings we have made so far including Markovic would have been coming in anyway apparently. You have no idea what we're paying them either. We won't have FSG having to clear debt next season and we also have the massive revenue increase from TV rights and CL money. Financially we're sound.
 
If it is that, then they've already spent it on the mediocre signings they've already made if you include the wages. They'll be in dangerous territory stepping over their current budget. They would have failed FFP the season before the one just gone (if they were competing in Europe) so they are quite limited financially. Any investment made from here on out will be done on the assumption they'll make top four consistently. When you look at Arsenal (+ Sanchez), Chelsea (+ Fabregas and Diego Costa), City and Us (+ LvG, Mata [from the off], Shaw, Herrera and others) it's difficult to see where a Liverpool team with a couple of players from 8th placed Southampton will really fit in.

They either throw caution to the wind, try and replace the goals they'll lose with Suarez, with big investment and bank on doing well in Europe this season as a third seed team AND qualifying for CL again with an extra 10-15 games without the player who has carried them, or they try and rebuild slow time and hope Coutinho and Sterling continue to develop while plugging the obvious gaps in their defence over the next few seasons as well as replacing Gerrard.

Difficult times ahead.

Not necessarily. Bearing in mind your most expensive purchase to date was also from 8th placed Southampton.

I don't quite get the negativity around Lallana, who is a very good player, was club captain, capped by his country and proven as a player in the league. Herrera? Hasn't kicked a ball for you yet.

As for the fee more reliable sources, ie James Pearce at the Liverpool Echo suggest fee is around £75m.
@JamesPearceEcho: Today's Echo: Suarez on brink of £75m move after Barca agree to pay release clause ---- looks like hes definitely gone

Emre Can could be a good player for us as will Lambert.
 
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Aren't Mundo Deportivo reliable for Barca news? If it is true that is quite a good deal for Barca.. I thought Liverpool would squeeze out a lot more from them..
 
Aren't Mundo Deportivo reliable for Barca news? If it is true that is quite a good deal for Barca.. I thought Liverpool would squeeze out a lot more from them..
You have to bear in mind that Barca will want to make it look like they paid as little as possible. The figures reported in the media can vary as some report the full amount including bonuses and whatnot.
 
Not bothered what the fee is. Just let me know when it's time to bump all the posts of the Liverpool bellends in here who were adamant he wouldn't be leaving this summer :)
 
Potentially 100million spent on
Bertrand,Lovern,Can,Lallana,Markovic,Origi

Suarez nets them 60mil.

Sounds about right. 40mil is around their budget.
 
Potentially 100million spent on
Bertrand,Lovern,Can,Lallana,Markovic,Origi

Suarez nets them 60mil.

Sounds about right. 40mil is around their budget.

Except we don't know the Suarez fee, reliable Liverpool information says £75m and how do you know what the club budget is?
 
Potentially 100million spent on
Bertrand,Lovern,Can,Lallana,Markovic,Origi

Suarez nets them 60mil.

Sounds about right. 40mil is around their budget.
Few reports saying that Suarez's transfer is unrelated to Liverpool's completed signings. Still, the players they've brought in aren't top tier and they'll find it hard to fill the Suarez void.
 
Aren't Mundo Deportivo reliable for Barca news? If it is true that is quite a good deal for Barca.. I thought Liverpool would squeeze out a lot more from them..

Written press in Spain is usually not reliable, though they sometimes have the real info.
 
It doesn't mean that he won't make mistakes, and he's not exactly perfect in the transfer market.

Agreed but a lot on here seem to be writing players off before they have even kicked a ball for us.
 
It doesn't mean that he won't make mistakes, and he's not exactly perfect in the transfer market.

Looking at all the expensive targets that we've targetted (Willian, Mkhitaryan, Costa) I trust our club when spending a big chunk of money.
 
Agreed but a lot on here seem to be writing players off before they have even kicked a ball for us.

You can't expect much more on a United forum! It seems a little like you are going our route - buying overpriced English and taking punts on younger European talent. Losing Suarez leaves a bit hole though, a Sanchez or that type of player would have been perfect.
 
56mp pound is about the right fee for him given he will keep himself suspended for 10 games a season anyway.
 
You can't expect much more on a United forum! It seems a little like you are going our route - buying overpriced English and taking punts on younger European talent. Losing Suarez leaves a bit hole though, a Sanchez or that type of player would have been perfect.

I expect most to judge players on their merit, not that a lot do not on here. I just think it's a bit daft saying players are sub standard without an explanation as to why - just because they signed for Liverpool.

All of us would agree Suarez leaves us with a problem and come the end of the window we will see what our approach has been,
 
I expect most to judge players on their merit, not that a lot do not on here. I just think it's a bit daft saying players are sub standard without an explanation as to why - just because they signed for Liverpool.

All of us would agree Suarez leaves us with a problem and come the end of the window we will see what our approach has been,

I haven't seen enough of any other then Lambert & Lallana to make any judgement. You also have to factor in the change in style/culture for young foreign players, you have to be patient (which is an issue with fans of any club).

I guess you should get improvements from players like Sterling, Coutinho and Sturridge as they continue to mature which will help. Still think you could really get a big name in to really give you that boost, rather then just adding numbers.
 
I haven't seen enough of any other then Lambert & Lallana to make any judgement. You also have to factor in the change in style/culture for young foreign players, you have to be patient (which is an issue with fans of any club).

I guess you should get improvements from players like Sterling, Coutinho and Sturridge as they continue to mature which will help. Still think you could really get a big name in to really give you that boost, rather then just adding numbers.

Lallana I rate very highly, he will suit our style of play and can play in a few different positions, I was very impressed with him last season. Lambert adds some strength and depth up front and can link the play up, score goals and is good from set pieces. I confess I don't know that much about Can, but we lacked a strong dominant presence in midfield, hopefully he can add that.

Last season we had Moses and Aspas on the bench. This season I expect us to be significantly stronger, that said yes a big name replacement for Suarez would be nice.

Markovic if he signs, again I know very little, but fans on other forums have raved about him.
 
I knew Suarez would leave. Been saying it for months.

;)

I understand your anger. Suarez has shafted you lot and you have got Lallana to replace him.

It will soon be 800million spent since 1990 and not a single league trophy.
 
I think its £56m up front, and £20m more later. At least they won't have all the funds to strengthen this Summer.

Ya, right. 20m pound later :rolleyes:
Why will a deal be announced only in upfront payment figures? Nobody except the clubs know the mode of payment and number of installments. That is never disclosed. We are talking about final agreed fee here, as quoted by mundo deportivo.
 
Ya, right. 20m pound later :rolleyes:
Why will a deal be announced only in upfront payment figures? Nobody except the clubs know the mode of payment and number of installments. That is never disclosed. We are talking about final agreed fee here, as quoted by mundo deportivo.

That's what I read earlier and it was from the English press which I would trust more than Spanish press, Liverpool wanted the whole buy out up front but Barca didn't have it all, good thing for us.
 
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