I wonder where Liverpool got their money from
Luis Diaz
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Even fecking Raul Meireles looked like a player and started in Liverpool and ChelseaIt's quite obvious that he's excellent - anyone who even casually watches football here would tell you he's the best player in the country. Whilst I do agree that buying someone who's done well in the league here but been poor in Europe can be risky, I don't necessarily think that applies when going after the guy who is comfortably the best player.
forgetting the icon that is Ramires!!
Ehh but what do I know just because your a good player in Portugal it does not mean you are good in the trenches of the EPL. Thank god these guys don’t gotta play in a rainy night in stoke on a Tuesday then they would really be fecked.
Bournemouth?
Even fecking Raul Meireles looked like a player and started in Liverpool and Chelsea
Ehh but what do I know just because your a good player in Portugal it does not mean you are good in the trenches of the EPL. Thank god these guys don’t gotta play in a rainy night in stoke on a Tuesday then they would really be fecked.
Love Meireles! That goal vs Benfica in the CL quarters
I agree, some of the dismissing by those on here is ridiculous - you'd think they'd never signed Portuguese players before! I think it's fair to say though that buying an average player in Portugal is possibly a bad idea (e.g. Nuno Tavares, Gedson Fernandes, etc.), but that's very different to buying the best player in the country.
Definitely none of those players was great not even in Portugal, Gedson only was good for Portugal Youth teams, Tavares has technical limitations. I don't think Diaz will hit the ground running on the short term, but after 6 months under Klopp and already adapted to a new league he has the tools to be a good player for Liverpool. How good? I don't know.
Yep fully agreed. Had Benfica mates of mine saying that they were happier with the fee for Tavares than the fee for Joao Felix
I agree that there'll be an adjustment period for Diaz - he's used to being the main attacking outlet for Porto and will have to adjust to being at best second fiddle to Salah. That said, given the decline in form Mane has shown over the past couple years, I think I would strongly consider take Diaz over him if I were starting a team tomorrow in a vacuum.
Why do people think he is a backup or replacement for Salah? Doesn't he play on the other side and is right footed?
Don't know much about him but guessing he'll be absolutely mint and prove a bargain.
He's a right footed left winger. He's pretty clearly a replacement for Mane - but as someone who's comfortable as the main attacking outlet, I suppose it's conceivable that in 3 years' time he might have assumed Salah's mantle as the main channel for Liverpool's attacks?
Good player whenever I've seen him.
Both Luis Diaz and Fabio Carvalho are left wingers/left sided forwards.
They can play anywhere in the front, but primarily operate on left.
It's a clear indication that Mane will most probably be moved on in the summer.
They can play anywhere in the front, but primarily operate on left.
It's a clear indication that Mane will most probably be moved on in the summer.
Where is he expected to go? PSG with Mbappe gone? Only other club outside of England that I can think of is Juve to replace Dybala if he goes.
What money? We spend like fecking paupers. Even with this signing.
you are paupers, 50m is a lot.I wonder where is came from. I’m looking forward to seeing the 2021 accounts which aren’t out yet
Hopefully outside England. PSG would ensure big cash.
If you are implying about breaching FFP, then Liverpool are allowed to spend 243 million according to FFP.
If you are wondering about actual cash, then the club has it. Maybe not the same as City Or Chelsea, but it has it. The owners are just not known to splash it.
We also tend to do structured deals.
I also don't know how much of Grujic money is still owed to LFC.
The club might also make some sales today. But that's a big if.
Carvalho plays through the centre. He's a 10 really.
Ah alright, so not a position like swap but being the attacking vocal point in Liverpool's attack. Didn't quite get that this was what people meant.
the borrowed 140m in the year end 2020, 2021 accounts are not out. I’m not sure how you can conclude they have the cash
They bought the club for 300m. Today it has an estimated worth of 3bn. Yet they still plead that there is just no way to inject cash.
Sky Sports have the deal at £49m
Not cheap at all really
Not cheap at all really
That's with add-ons and all.
Regardless, not a bargain shop purchase but if he delivers I am happy with the fee. It's a good going rate for a forward you expect to become a starter.
Yes I agree. This is the kind of signing you should try and make.
I’ve seen some trying to paint this as a cut price deal though which it certainly isn’t. It’s big money.
He's 30 in a few months and his contract runs out next summer, not forgetting his dwindling performances throughout the past year or so. How much do you think you can feasibly get for him?
I think maybe for the hype it is but for me it seems like a good price for comfortably the best player in the league. I don’t think Bruno was much more.
Think it also helps we payed part of this upfront immediately because their accounts were in trouble and they were on the verge of sanctions.
Every time Liverpool sign a player, the Fee is ££££ (very rarely the add ons are mentioned)
Every time Utd sign a player, the fee, add ons, wages, bonuses and even the bloody WAGs expenses are included.
media bias is unreal!
On paper it maybe worth 3b, but no way are they ever going to sell it for that much. They will probably be using the paper value to re finance and use the money for their own projects. Any lose change they give to Klopp to paper over the cracks.
Wow I'm expecting to see Messi and Ronaldo rolled into now.
Depends on who come for him. If someone like NUFC, of they survive, or PSG come in, then he can get the club a good value.
If beggars like Barca come for him, the club might allow him to leave for a smaller value. Y
He looks great and probably will just slot perfectly into that Liverpool side much in the way Jota did (Though I think Diaz is better). Was a shame Spurs couldn't get the deal over the line but I was pleased to hear we were at least trying for a player of his caliber. Once Liverpool got involved we probably had no chance.
That's my main beef with them. There was a unique position to build from a position of dominance. Instead they have seen that Klopp will always secure top four and have them thereabouts, so why bother spending more than they absolutely have to? He's getting wenger'd.
you moved the discussion from questioning the evidence and it being up to date to saying look at alleged market value .Using elleged market value based on historical earnings partially pre covid doesn’t take into account 2021 it’s still outdated. Until this signing they focused on using money to renew largely old players on long contracts. Perhaps on increased wages. The question still stands, they have no money, how did they afford it.
totally agree it’s an old squad, lacks commercial awareness and over pays. Klopp will know and will probably leave
Feels as another average player who will look world class under klopp system. Good luck to him.
That's 10/ year. If he is taking a normal salary of no more than 5 M, his total cost for the club would be 15/ year. It is really a no-brainer for a guy with his qualities.
I think it's because he had a higher release clause. Porto had to sell due to financial issues apparently which is why he went for less than that.
He's in the Jota, Salah and Mane bracket in terms of the fee (when you take inflation into account).
Thought he looked okay yesterday but a tad lethargic.. will take abit of time to adjust to the demands of EPL/Klopp football. Solid IQ though.
Really intelligent high energy player, think he suits them very well.
I don't know what the expectations are, but Luis Diaz is clearly a very intelligent player and tactically astute. He can be deployed in other positions if needed and will have the same determination.
Not a live-wire dribbler, he's actually a very straight to the point player and his passing is quite accurate under pressure.
Not a live-wire dribbler, he's actually a very straight to the point player and his passing is quite accurate under pressure.